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M5M5
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 01:49 PM
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Medical bills
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You'd think I would know this, but whatever. My ex is throwing a hissy about paying his half of the medical bills for our son, totaling $609.36 (from 2006 to present). I have mailed him these bills before, but he said he's never received them (I know...should have done the whole return receipt thing). Anyway...I have not paid all of these medical bills yet. Some of them I am making monthly payments on (the larger ones). He said he wants to pay the provider directly. I would not NORMALLY have a problem with this...but I know they won't get paid. He doesn't even pay his CS, (he is over 8K behind and only pays it when he holds down a job long enough for his employer to garnish) so why would he pay these? These bills are under either DH's name or mine, and if they are not paid they will be reported to the credit bureaus.
He wants me to give him the bills (EOBs) at court on Thursday (a contempt hearing for his not paying CS). I said fine..that's what I'll do.
So anyway, WWYD? He has an attorney now, btw...I am pro se..actually the state is handling the CS contempt issue). Should I continue to ask him to pay me..and I make sure it's sent to the provider, or let him? I really can't trust him and we DON'T need any other bad marks on our credit.
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Miranda
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 02:14 PM
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Re: Medical bills
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The state should garnish it along with CS, and then send it to you.
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M5M5
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 02:24 PM
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Re: Medical bills
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Well I told him that they would more than likely be willing to add it to his arrearage, but he wasn't going for that. Don't see why not when he has such a large arrerage anyway. But..the half for medical bills after insurance has paid is supposed to be paid seperately.
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Miranda
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 02:27 PM
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Re: Medical bills
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Who gives two shits what he is going for? He has some nerve!
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M5M5
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 02:37 PM
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Re: Medical bills
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lol I agree. Now he has this attorney telling him to do all sorts of things I think...getting on my nerves.
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Melody
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 02:41 PM
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I don't think he has any say
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in what he's "going" for. If you ask the courts to add the amount to the arrearages, they will most likely grant your request. End of story. The only way he can't "GO" for this is if he up and pays right then. If he wants to pay the providers directly, then I guess you would have to have it written into the orders that you be supplied with a copy of a paid invoice or receipt from the provider indicating that his portion has been paid. AND that he has a specific period of time in which to do this. I would also request that the amount unpaid after the final due date automatically be added to the arrears should he fail to make good.
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M5M5
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 03:19 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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Good idea. When we go to court on THursday, I'll ask them if they would add this amount to the arrears.
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Relayer
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04/21/08 06:56 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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[quote]Good idea. When we go to court on THursday, I'll ask them if they would add this amount to the arrears. [/quote]
They wont add it to the arrears because you havent paid the $609.36 either, unless that has been part of your monthly payment. Otherwise, you are not responsible for any of it?
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DeeCan
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(veteran)
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04/21/08 07:11 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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Doesn't matter if she has paid her part or not, if it is owed they can attach it to his arrearages. BTDT
What a loser. He's already got a hell of an arrearage, what's the big deal if they tack the meds on??!! Besides, not like he'll pay them anyway.
Do you even have room to bytch about the meds when you're that far behind in CS and haven't even ATTEMPTED to make it right?!! Some people apparently think so!!!
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Tweeby
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 07:14 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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The $609.36 is the BF portion of the medical bills. She has paid some of the bill off but is still making monthly payments on some of the larger bills. It seems that she was unable to pay the bill in full so she made arrangements with the providers.
M5, ask the court to add it to his arreages.
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Relayer
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 08:08 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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[quote]Doesn't matter if she has paid her part or not, if it is owed they can attach it to his arrearages. BTDT
What a loser. He's already got a hell of an arrearage, what's the big deal if they tack the meds on??!! Besides, not like he'll pay them anyway.
Do you even have room to bytch about the meds when you're that far behind in CS and haven't even ATTEMPTED to make it right?!! Some people apparently think so!!! [/quote]
I've BTDT too and they couldn't because my debt was to the doctor, not the ex. Although I agree he doesnt have a leg to stand on with the medical stuff considering.
And yes, it does matter if she paid her portion. It matters huge because they wont issue a judgement until her portion is completely paid, ALSO BTDT
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M5M5
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 09:06 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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They will add it to the arrears. They've done it before, whether I've paid it or not. It's still his half and he owes it. Heck..they have a habit of adding atty fees to arrears (they did with my DH).
I have paid some of bills...but am STILL paying on the bigger ones. So..I have been paying both our portions.
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M5M5
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/21/08 09:07 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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You are wrong, Relayer. We had proof BM had not paid her portion for some of the bills she billed us (to be paid to her) and the judge ordered us to pay HER. And she goes and pays the providers. BTDT. They can and they WILL add it on the arrears in our county and state.
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Relayer
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/22/08 07:42 AM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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[quote]You are wrong, Relayer. We had proof BM had not paid her portion for some of the bills she billed us (to be paid to her) and the judge ordered us to pay HER. And she goes and pays the providers. BTDT. They can and they WILL add it on the arrears in our county and state. [/quote]
Not in mine and the reson is tehcnically the money is owed the provider, not the CP. In order for a judgemenbt and subsequent order for garnishment to be ordered, proof has to be produced that the debt to the provider was paid, so if you provided proof he was paid, fine although I wouldn doubt the proof you provided was your portion, in effect perjury.
But at the end of the day, the goal is to get the bills paid so do whatever it takes and whatever works.
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M5M5
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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04/22/08 07:51 AM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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I agree. I would love for it to be like that here..for the parent to pay the provider directly rather than the other parent. Because it just burns me up that we had to pay BM for services she hadn't even paid for herself yet. There was only one time that DH was able to pay the provider directly rather than pay BM (other than a few therapy sessions) and that was for SD's braces. Even making out the check to the provider and sending it to BM and her forwarding it on would have been better than making out the check to her. I haven't checked lately if she has paid all the bills, but I have a feeling there are a few still left unpaid, but we still have to send her the check. But whatever...least we know she can't come after us again for the same bill. She tried that in November and we pointed it out to her. She actually changed it without mouthing off.
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DeeCan
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(veteran)
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04/22/08 06:25 PM
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Re: I don't think he has any say
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I think the reason TN goes ahead and adds it to the arrears or bills it to the NCP even if the CP has not got it paid off is because the CP is the billed/responsible party.
I will say, however, that it is SO much easier for the other parent to pay the provider. ODS' Dad and I started doing this on things like ortho and dentist and it is GREAT. I prefer it this way and I think he feels more confident that it is actually going for DS when he gets to do it that way.
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bbb
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(recently joined)
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04/23/08 11:10 AM
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Re: Medical bills
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We just went through this except it was the CP that was not paying 1/2 of Medical bills. The collectors came after us because the insurance was under NCP's name. First the medical bill payment is a seperate issue from CS. It is part of the Custody order so when CS was modified the trouble with paying bills was not considered. They told us that was a different order and would have to have a seperate hearing. What happened is we filed contempt charges. The CP paid their half, some of our legal fees and was found in contempt. Then we were told if it happens again we have to go down the same route again.
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