| gr8Dad |
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| 09/28/11 09:49 PM |
Josh Powell lost custody...
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...because his FATHER is on trial for child p0rn. Oh, and because he FATHER, per his ex wife, is a pervert. So despite the fact that he and his family are NOT bailing the father out, and there is ZERO evidence that he was involved in ANY way, he lost custody. The mother is missing, and while he is listed as a person of interest (the spouse is ALWAYS a person of interest), there is absolutely NO evidence that he was involved.
Like Brad Cooper, a mere accusation is apparently enough for them to take your kids away from you.
| Debi |
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| 09/28/11 09:59 PM |
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Very interesting since my x didn't lose any custody after pleading guilty to possession of the same thing. So it's ok if the father is viewing it but not the grandfather. Hmmmm.
| elliesmom |
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| 09/28/11 09:59 PM |
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I was surprised at this, seriously can't believe its legal, but I am not losing any sleep over it. This guy stinks of "I killed my wife" BIG TIME.
| gr8Dad |
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| 09/29/11 12:46 AM |
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Is that really fair? I mean there is ZERO evidence he killed her (which any cop will tell you is virtually impossible to do if he is guilty), and two years after she disappeared, still no sign of ANYTHING. Consider if YOUR spouse, or a close family member disappeared, and you had everything stripped from you because you just gave people a FEELING that you did it?
| Cassie23 |
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| 09/29/11 06:19 AM |
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which any cop will tell you is virtually impossible to do if he is guilty
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How is that? If that were the case almost 100% of crimes would be solved. It would be virtually impossible if maybe she was stabbed or shot, but what if her H strangled her and then drove miles and miles and buried her? In that scenario wouldn't it be more likely that there is NOT evidence? Since she isn't a stranger to the person of interest-- her hair, fibers and DNA would be linked to anything that could have been used in the crime (if there was one).
Yes, everything right now is circumstantial. Yet it does raise some eyebrows that the night his W disappeared was a night where he took his sons camping at midnight in freezing temps, that he is uncooperative with police in regards to his W's disappearance and that as a H he has openly said that his W probably ran off with some other guy.
Lastly, according to News reports Powell asked that if the judge was to take custody from him--- that he have his children go into FOSTER CARE and NOT those of his W's parents (the children's grandparents). Yeah he sounds like a stand up guy.
| gr8Dad |
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| 09/29/11 08:30 AM |
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"that he is uncooperative with police in regards to his W's disappearance and that as a H he has openly said that his W probably ran off with some other guy."
Well, you have to ask a few things, like what WOULD the police consider "cooperative"? Saving them work and admitting to something he didn't do? I mean if you DON'T know where she is, what do you do? And if he thought she ran off with another guy, and told them that, isn't that cooperating?
"Lastly, according to News reports Powell asked that if the judge was to take custody from him--- that he have his children go into FOSTER CARE and NOT those of his W's parents (the children's grandparents). Yeah he sounds like a stand up guy."
Would you want people who were CONVINCED that you killed there daughter to raise YOUR kids?
| Avaya |
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| 09/29/11 08:39 AM |
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I thought they recently found a body in a place the wife frequented in the desert - was it not her? I hadn't heard.
I think it does stink that he doesn't have custody of his children. What ever happened to 'Innocent until proven guilty'?
| Cassie23 |
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| 09/29/11 09:15 AM |
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No...there were no human remains actually found. There was a hit on something from the dogs they were using, but all that was found was charred pieces of wood.
| elliesmom |
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| 09/29/11 09:28 AM |
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I think it is totally possible to kill someone and leave no evidence behind - no police officer I know would say that unless you are talking about a stranger killing. A spouse? Not nearly as difficult. There is a good reasonable reason for your DNA/trace evidence to be all over anything on her and vice versa. I find his story of events completely unbelievable. Its written on his face every time he opens his mouth.
But I agree - taking his kids with this evidence, I find incredible and flatout illegal. I am just not going to be marching in any protest parade. Karma is a bytch.
| Cassie23 |
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| 09/29/11 09:31 AM |
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I can see your point with the police, however they stated he wouldn't talk. But then again maybe he was sick of telling them what he knew and they were asking for more?
I would want my children with family regardless of what they thought of me UNLESS they were abusive people. I would rather have them with their grandparents (even if they thought I had something to do with my spouse's disappearance) over a foster family 100%. I know people that can put aside how they feel about the parent of their children and do what is in the best interest of the children.
At first her family didn't think he was involved, I think his behavior afterwards is what led them to second guess their initial thoughts. Also it seems as though besides child p0rn being found on the computer in the home there were supposed graphic violent sexual posters.
I cannot believe that the custody of the children going temp. to the grandparents will stick unless Powell himself is arrested for something relevant to his wife's disappearance or the charges of child p0rn.
It also seems strange that the day police broke into their home (and Dad was still out with the boys camping) that there were 2 fans being run over a "wet spot" on the rug.
| gr8Dad |
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| 09/29/11 09:39 AM |
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"I would want my children with family regardless of what they thought of me UNLESS they were abusive people."
If your ex was CONVINCED you were a murderer, wouldn't that fall under EMOTIONAL abuse at least? And compare it to the Cooper case. Brad Cooper, because of all the news surrounding it, sent the kids to stay with a family friend for a while. He was branded suspicious because he DIDN'T want the kids around him. It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
"I cannot believe that the custody of the children going temp. to the grandparents will stick unless Powell himself is arrested for something relevant to his wife's disappearance or the charges of child p0rn."
Two years after her disappearence, and NO evidence? He will never get the kids, I would put money on it.
"It also seems strange that the day police broke into their home (and Dad was still out with the boys camping) that there were 2 fans being run over a "wet spot" on the rug."
And yet NO large amounts of blood residue or anything? Ever spill something on your carpet?
| Cassie23 |
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| 09/29/11 09:51 AM |
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Actually I know for certain I have never taken my kids out camping at midnight let alone at freezing cold temps. I can see why there is suspicion. Whether that leads to an arrest someday with hard evidence, only time will tell.
| LexieBelle |
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| 09/29/11 10:47 AM |
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There's a reason for the saying "a perfect crime". People can absolutely kill others without leaving any evidence. Absolutely. No doubt.
In this guy's case, there is only ONE person of interest, HIM. Period. No other suspects whatsoever.
At the site, they've also found CLOTHING. The site was described as a GRAVE. Presumably, they are doing DNA testing and whatnot to determine if it was her.
I've got zero doubt this guy killed his wife. None. Glad he lost custody.
| Miranda |
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| 09/29/11 05:05 PM |
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I've got zero doubt this guy killed his wife. None. Glad he lost custody.
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I totally agree. He should have lost custody in 2009 after he told the police about his BS "middle of the night, week night, spur of the moment camping trip in a blizzard with two small children the day my estranged wife disappeared" story.
From what I heard on the news today, the boys were living in a home with child p*orn. There were also many images of women and girls taken by these perverts...Josh reportedly told investigators that he "takes pictures of random women below the knees". Not to mention that there are other adults that live in the home with mental issues. Josh's unmedicated schizophrenic brother lives there and likes to walk around naked exposing himself to neighbors. He also answered the door stark naked when authorities went to the home.
So this is not a poor man who is erroneously victimized by the big, bad legal system. This is a "let's get these two innocent children out of this effed up household full of perverts before it's too late" issue. Kudos to the government.
| gr8Dad |
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| 09/30/11 10:59 PM |
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So where do we draw the line on, "Not illegal, but kinda weird behavior so we are taking your kids"? I mean I am ALL FOR taking kids from someone who broke the law, but that has not been substantiated in any way. What happens when YOUR "normal" becomes "suspicious", based on someone else's viewpoint?