| DadNotBad |
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| 11/14/08 12:51 PM |
So Many Lawyers and So Many Problems
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My case has been going on for sometime now, divorce is final and equitable is final, the only outstanding issue is custody of the kids.
One of the biggest problems that is going on now is there are three lawyers involved, mine, her's and the adlitem for the kids.
I want the adlitem removed from the case and have asked my lawyer to make the necessary moves to do so but she does nothing. The problem with the adlitem is she does nothing for the case, she has never met with the kids, she has written to me and told me that she does not have the child's rights as respected by the courts and she has misrepresented findings, made apologies to me outside of the court for it but never made the corrections with the court. I want the adlitem off the case, so how do I do it ?
Also, since my lawyer continues to jack up charges every month, even when she never talks or mails me anything, there are $300-$800 a month charges. The charges on the invoices are from lawyer to lawyer and God only knows about what, because none of that is getting back to me! Is it possible to represent yourself and have a lawyer as a backup when you have to go to court ?
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| Maury |
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| 11/14/08 01:14 PM |
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You may file a Motion to remove the GAL. However, your chances of replacing a Guardian Ad Litem without an agreement by the parties would be slim to none. The GAL is not there to be on your side or to agree with you and the fact that there is no agreement is not a basis to remove the GAL.
It is not possible to represent yourself and have a lawyer as a back up. You either go at it pro se or retain counsel. I imagine you could dismiss your attorney and handle the case alone until you need counsel. However,there is great risk in doing so. If you make errors, it may be too late to fix them when hiring counsel again.
| Gestalt |
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| 11/14/08 02:17 PM |
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One thing that worked for me was a request for status conference (or your state's equivalent) then all the parties tell the judge where they are at in their respective processes and how much more time they need before a hearing. At our status conference I was able to politely let the judge know that the GAL hadn't contacted anyone and I was concerned about lack of progress and the prejudice towards my case as a result of the extended time....judge was not happy with the GAL....couldn't get the GAL removed (I don't even recommend trying that-never want to look like you are hiding something)...but you do want to process to move forward...
| DadNotBad |
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| 11/14/08 04:28 PM |
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The judge has been a problem in this case as well. He was misinformed by the GAL and during two different parts of the hearing, on 2 different days, the judge fell asleep on the bench. All three lawyers saw what was going on and they all did nothing. The GAL has interfered with the kids having the chance to talk to the judge, saying that she did not think it was necessary meanwhile my one kid is crying out to the psychologist begging her to let him talk to the judge, the psychologist has told the GAL about this but the GAL has done nothing, well except bill for the time that she was on the phone with the psychologist and the time that she sat and thought about it.
The kids are crying out and breaking down to the psychologist, but she will do nothing but talk to the GAL but then it stops there. The GAL is failing to do her job because she is not upholding the childs rights at all nor is she doing anything to protect them even though the psychologist is seeing and hearing all of this from my kids.
I guess it goes to show that the legal system is corrupt and do nothing productive beside rape people of their hard earned cash! Hell the judge is allow to sleep on the job and there is NO recourse for that! There's no jury, it all rides on the judge and how can he make a true decision on the facts when he is sound asleep! But if I push the issue to get him reprimanded, he will turn around an put the screws to me even though he has no cause!
| Gestalt |
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| 11/14/08 04:51 PM |
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Subpoena the therapist...
and you don't push the issue to "get him reprimanded" you push for "progress in the case"...I know it's a fine line...but it's there.
Are the hearings recorded on video, audio or transcript? I would be gathering everything I may need for an appeal.
| stuckinarut |
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| 11/14/08 05:36 PM |
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Courts are corrupt....I havent paid my lawyer. He thinks he's taking my house which is not selling. My stbx told me to tell him "Not a chance", he's not going to throw her and the kids out because he wants the house, tell the idiot, its not selling because of the s h i t condition its in! He has a better chance of going after your pay"
| DadNotBad |
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| 11/15/08 12:05 AM |
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I was thinking of requesting another judge because reading through the past transcripts I discovered that this judge made a summary statement where if the parties cannot agree or communicate on anything then we will be here again and again, and the parties will have to pay and pay. That fits part of the judges plan, get as many attorney's involved and other professionals that will do nothing more than financially drain the situation. More of the reason to move to another judge. The ABA should have ways to correct this problem. There are not audio nor video permitted in these court rooms, just have the testimonies of witnesses in the courtroom, in addition to 3 attorney's that had a legal responsibility to stop the proceedings so that the judge could gather himself.
I was forced out of my home. The house was sold without my signature on anything and the judge awarded the tax free cash to my ex because he felt that she deserved it.
Lawyer is being paid, so she has nothing to hold over me, and the opposition has nothing to hold over me.
I have my own place for my kids and myself. I work everyday to support my kids and myself. My ex, lives with her parents, milked the system to go back to school for 5 years and get two degrees, lies to the courts about her future, sits at home and does nothing. I've fought and fought to get my kids 50% of the time, and I've done NOTHING wrong. My ex has overdosed my kids and continues to do so, has beat my one kid with a belt, her father has 3 police reports on him for assaulting me, Children's services has been involved, my ex has 4 contempt orders on her, my ex constantly messes with the medical coverage so I frequently have to pay out of pocket for the meds that my kids need.........and I've had to fight to get 50%.
I've read and read, all over the internet....this site as well as many others....and researched previous cases as well....thousands of dollars out the door to many people.....
| stuckinarut |
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| 11/15/08 12:31 PM |
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I was ordered to continue to pay maintenance on my wife's/stbx's car and to pay her gas...I told my lawyer..I dont think I have to....I told her when she asked for gas money to go get a job...she told me she complained to her lawyer since it was stipulated in court transcripts that i had to pay...I told her "I dont give a F what those transcripts say, Go get a job!"
| Yes_Dad |
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| 11/20/08 05:36 PM |
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[quote]I was ordered to continue to pay maintenance on my wife's/stbx's car and to pay her gas...I told my lawyer..I dont think I have to....I told her when she asked for gas money to go get a job...she told me she complained to her lawyer since it was stipulated in court transcripts that i had to pay...I told her "I dont give a F what those transcripts say, Go get a job!" [/quote]
While I agree with you telling her to get a job...
There are a lot of things we all dont want to do but a required to by law. You are in that situation. You are fighting an unwinable war here.
| stuckinarut |
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| 11/22/08 06:54 PM |
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and my reason for removing "my" assets from the house and disobeying a court order not to was because she breaks things.
| Karen1 |
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| 11/23/08 07:45 PM |
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Attorneys just love people like Stuck... more and more $$$$ for them.
| DadNotBad |
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| 11/25/08 10:10 AM |
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If they are rightfully your assets, you have the right to remove them, the courts will only bar the removal, sale, destruction of marital property and jointly owned property.....and the courts are not always right.
Lawyers are just that, they are in it for the money and nothing else. If there was some way that people could review and comment on lawyers and judges and DA's, there would be a whole new game in the legal system and for a change these people would start working for us. Lawyers pad each other's pockets and remember the Judges are lawyers too, where did they come from ?
| Maury |
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| 11/25/08 02:10 PM |
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Such opinions, I am afraid, are based on little more than ignorance and bitterness. I realize I am spitting into the wind here, but, that happens to be the case.
| DadNotBad |
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| 11/25/08 05:55 PM |
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Actually it's more than opinion, it's fact I've been there, if you have property that was your's before the marriage then it is yours, that you can remove even if you need the Sheriff to protect you in the process. Any of your property that get damaged while in the possession of the other party, needs to be replaced or compensation of assessed value as determined by a licensed appraiser.
I've personally been down this road and recently had a friend go through the same thing and this was the rules with his conditions as well.
| Maury |
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| 11/26/08 12:58 AM |
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I was referring to the second paragraph of your post, not the first.
| christine1 |
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| 11/26/08 07:39 PM |
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Lawyers are like anyone else trying to make a living. They are very expensive but probably because they are in such high demand - Supply and Demand.
| javajunkiee |
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| 11/30/08 05:59 PM |
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I'm betting his atty doesn't love him - didn't you see the part where he's not paying his atty? The atty is going after his house.
You kind of have to wonder though. The atty sees stuck doesn't want to pay a dime to the mother of his kids, and still thinks stuck's going to pay him?
Although, with the advice that atty gives, I wouldn't want to pay him either.
| stuckinarut |
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| 12/03/08 07:07 PM |
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My lawyer feels since the stbx hasn't contribute to the household expenses in 20 years, she should pay my lawyer fees with her proceeds from the house...it is only fair since I dutifully payed for everything and she hasnt contributed anything not even being a housekeeper....she really didnt do a good job at it...my lawyer believes he has convinced the judge of this!
My lawyer also feels since she lives in the house she should do all the repair work, since I work I shouldnt have to....if she wants to sell the house, she should get her lazy a$$ off her chair and move it!
My lawyer also feels after 20 yrs, the stbx can get a job and be able to make not $20,0000 a yr but $25,0000 from all the wealth of information he found on the internet about training for a job!
| Maury |
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| 12/04/08 01:42 PM |
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LOL-- nice to know you are considering the feelings of your lawyer.
Unfortunately, you will see shortly how the judge feels.
| Robin8 |
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| 12/04/08 02:43 PM |
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Beware:
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known troll poster.
This is a known homosexual activist.
We have disproved this "attorney" posts countless times.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
| Maury |
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| 12/05/08 09:07 AM |
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Hey Gollum -- how's court been?
| stuckinarut |
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| 12/06/08 07:04 AM |
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lawyers like my stbx's are stupid...they really think I'm going to help her out..LOL...no way...she is stranded without a car...so she will have to walk..LOL...it feels great being in control!
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 03:10 PM |
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Everyone sing for Stuck ..."Dreamer....nothing but a dreamer...."
| IHatefPIGS |
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| 12/06/08 03:31 PM |
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Funny how no other attorney pimps this site, but you. Talk about losers...
Can't you come up with your own thoughts? Why must you steal from us?
Enjoying your single malt from your blood money, homosexual activist?
Cute how other's learn a new word and want the world to know something that they don't. Guess what? It's in the dictionary and available for all so don't bother copyrighting it...
Sheesh! PIGS. Spend more time reading Reader's Digest as opposed to plagerizing the Onion.
Beware:
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known and admitted, homosexual activist.
This is a known troll poster.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 03:50 PM |
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Someone call Steven Hawking. I don't think he knows that a man like E ric exists where he is so dense that time and space bend around him.
| IHatefPIGS |
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| 12/06/08 03:51 PM |
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CR
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HA
Funny how this homosexual activist "attorney" is the only one pimping this site for business...
Can't you come up with your own thoughts? Why must you steal from us?
Enjoying your single malt from your blood money, homosexual activist?
Cute how other's learn a new word and want the world to know something that they don't. Guess what? It's in the dictionary and available for all so don't bother copyrighting it...
Sheesh! PIGS. Spend more time reading Reader's Digest as opposed to plagerizing the Onion.
Beware:
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known and admitted, homosexual activist.
This is a known troll poster.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 04:15 PM |
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E ric , can you post a photo online. I am collecting pictures of natural disaters.
| IHatefPIGS |
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| 12/06/08 04:16 PM |
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CR
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HA
Funny how this homosexual activist "attorney" is the only one pimping this site for business...
Can't you come up with your own thoughts? Why must you steal from us?
Enjoying your single malt from your blood money, homosexual activist?
Cute how other's learn a new word and want the world to know something that they don't. Guess what? It's in the dictionary and available for all so don't bother copyrighting it...
Sheesh! PIGS. Spend more time reading Reader's Digest as opposed to plagerizing the Onion.
Beware:
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known and admitted, homosexual activist.
This is a known troll poster.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
PIG
| stuckinarut |
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| 12/06/08 07:43 PM |
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D I S A S T E R....thats how you spell disaster...you forgot an S....and you talk about me with the word liar!
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 07:46 PM |
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LOL - that remedial reading class must be working out well for you.
| stuckinarut |
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| 12/06/08 07:47 PM |
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you should try it!
| THandSofFP |
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| 12/06/08 07:47 PM |
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Just look at the pimp attorney's words. They get sloppier and sloppier as the day/evening progresses.
We call it the single malt syndrome. Y'know... As she drinks the blood money away from her raping good Fathers, she rewards herself with name brand single malt and beers that anyone with responsibilities and bills, would stay away from.
She is wonderful at denigrating others for the same things that she does.
Oh yeah...
In regards to the subject matter at hand, the pimp trying to sell her "goods" on here, AKA Maury Pooh, pooh:
Beware:
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known and admitted, homosexual activist.
This is a known troll poster.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 07:47 PM |
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No thanks, I done all my fancy book learnin' already.
| stuckinarut |
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| 12/06/08 07:49 PM |
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but still has problems spelling..tsk tsk!
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 07:50 PM |
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I certainly have some problems typing. That is why I have secretaries. Typing errors can be corrected, whereas your genetics cannot.
| THandSofFP |
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| 12/06/08 07:51 PM |
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How about that! The known pimp of whores, the single malt syndrome, blood sucking PIG speaks (also known as an attorney)!
Y'all know... The one that can't type properly let alone speak the English language let alone spell it...
Beware:
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known and admitted, homosexual activist.
This is a known troll poster.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
PIG
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 07:52 PM |
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"The known pimp of whores,"
Drat! Did your mother tell you about that?
| stuckinarut |
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| 12/06/08 07:53 PM |
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LOL..blame it on the typing...duh!
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 07:54 PM |
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A brilliant retort. Your limitations are showing.
| stuckinarut |
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| 12/06/08 07:57 PM |
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very funny! (yawning)
| THandSofFP |
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| 12/06/08 07:57 PM |
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One would think that you could actually come up with something that is humorous. But, what can one expect from an attorney that pimps herself on boards like this and advertises that she practically "specializes" in everything.
This little piglet that went to the market actually represents males and females. Kinda deceptive advertising, doesn't one think? She has NO SPECIALTY. She ONLY takes money and then, "hopes for the best." That's all she can do. Why do we know this? Simple. We have PROVEN the HA PIG wrong countless times. She is incompetent and is only good at drinking her single malt scotch. It's a shame that she things that she can think and type at the same time. But, at least we can point it out to her...
Beware:
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known and admitted, homosexual activist.
This is a known troll poster.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
| Maury |
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| 12/06/08 11:26 PM |
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UPI Mars Hill, ME
In the waning days of the Bush presidency, the oval office has been inundated with a myriad of executive pardon requests. These, including requests from representatives for Marion Jones, Mike Milken, Timothy McVeigh, and Al Quaida sympathizer John Walkee Lindh.
For the most part, the Bush presidency has taken a conservative approach to granting such clemency. However, on Saturday White House Press Secretary released to the public a statement that the President will be pardoning the father of E ric E ricson. E ric Arthur E ricson is described in White House background checks as an underachieving, parasitic founder of the failed Organization F IRM. The pardon was granted based on the high levels of narcotics found in the genetic sperm donation extracted from the maternal goat that sired the internet activist.
“The father had to be pardoned. Given the level of poison in the sperm, he could not have possibly known what he was doing,” White House Spokesman Aru Fireel stated to the press. “Moreover,’ Fireel continued,” the tests conclusively prove that E ricson is not really the Prince of Darkness and the horns and cloven feet are explained by his bovine ancestry.”
F IRM spokesman I.B. Enbred expressed the disappointment of the F IRM members. "We thought we had found a true leader. But at least it explains why meetings are held in a pasture while E ric eats grass." There was no immediate comment as to whether action would be taken to disband the loosely knit organization of disfunctional men, but a Motion has been proposed to shave the leader and make matching shirts.
| HIFather |
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| 12/07/08 01:49 AM |
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Beware:
This is a known Canadian SOW.
This is a known femin azi.
This is a known and admitted, homosexual activist.
This is a known troll poster.
Therefore, whatever she states should be regarded with caution and suspect due to her repeated lies, misinformation and posts in multiple names along with just being an "icky" type subhuman.
| NoRightsNoMore |
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| 01/10/09 07:29 PM |
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I read this entire thread and only your beginning post makes much sense. I don’t want to get involved in the troll thing but, I do want to answer your initial question.
That said: I’ve been in the family court system as a NCP for 17+ years now and here’s my advice to you:
Interview lawyers as if they were applying for a job your offering because, they are.
Have a list of your objectives handy and a copy for the lawyer. Review each objective verbally. This will give you an idea of his/her position on issues. If the lawyer goes to fast or redirects the conversation, be polite but, say something like: I don’t quite understand what you said about X.
Don’t be afraid to ask an attorney for references from recent but not active clients.
Make sure the lawyer you chose is a proponent/advocate for men who are non custodial parents. (Many men make the mistake of not doing this.) I used to try dancing around this question and just feel them out. I don’t anymore; I just explain that “I have to ask you a frank question”.
Determine an hourly wage up front and don’t be afraid to haggle a bit. You’ll probably lose, but, it will show the lawyer that you are not afraid to challenge him/her. Some lawyers want to work for a “lump sum”, personally, I won’t hire a lawyer using the “sump sum” scenario, I’d rather pay them by the hour otherwise you (the client) lose the transparency that will keep you informed.
Get the lawyer to acknowledge and agree that you are to be copied on every document created on your behalf or that you’re billed for. If a lawyer has a problem with this, be wary. You have a right to know everything he/she does on your behalf. It only takes a minute to copy or print an additional copy of a document – so don’t let them over bill you on this.
Examine every invoice closely. Call his/her office and protest if you are billed for anything that seems unreasonable. IE: Taking an hour to read a 1 page motion. Read that same document yourself and see how long it takes you. Stuff like that. Be gentle about this, say something like: I think your billing dept made an error in charging me for X (of course you’ll explain why you think X was charged erroneously – in a nice way!).
Always treat your lawyer with respect but, demand that same level of respect in return.
One more thing, don’t be afraid to fire your lawyer but do get another one before you can the current lawyer. Also, be honest with the new lawyer as to why your terminating your relationship with your existing lawyer. This is also a very good reason to keep a complete file of your case (in date sequence). Otherwise, your current lawyer will probably charge you to turn your case file over to a competitor.
Another thing LOL! The GAL is a “friend of the court” and the judge, so always be kind and courteous towards them. They (she) may be humping the judge for their cushy job!
Good luck to you.