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Vossler
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Stopping child support
      #608800 - 12/08/09 07:51 AM

I know that this may seem odd but I am not sure in what to do here. I live in Outagamie Wis and I want to put a stop to the child support order. My problem is that the state takes a little over half of the CS he gives me for the fact that I get the Care taker supplement. 385 twice a month. The state takes almost 250 of that leaving me with about 150. We have 5 children and we are both in agreement that it really doesn't seem right that they do that. Before the order he did pay me directly and was actually more then what I get now. He avaraged 250 every check. We talked and both don't like the fact my kids aren't getting the support they need cause the state takes most of it. I want to end the order. Don't worry. There is no drama or anything in that order and we are good friends. I know that he will pay it but I'm tired of our kids getting screwed. Any suggestions please.

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: Vossler]
      #608809 - 12/08/09 08:30 AM

How much is the Caretaker supplement that you receive from the state?

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: CuriousGeorge]
      #608812 - 12/08/09 08:52 AM

700.

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: Vossler]
      #608814 - 12/08/09 09:01 AM

So... the state takes out 500 from Dad's CS so that they can give you 700?

Is it your intention to have Dad pay you directly so that the state can give you the 700 in addition to Dad's CS?

That is a 500 swing in your favor. Likely good for the kids since you have 5 and the dollar amounts we are talking are relatively low.

But - this may be Fraud. Be careful about telling the state you are not receiving CS (yet Dad pays you directly) and then receiving 700 in state aid. It could mean jail time for you, Dad or both. I would suggest you do your homework before making any changes.

I would tell Dad NEVER to hand the money directly to you. He should have a third party document every penny he gives you.

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: CuriousGeorge]
      #608828 - 12/08/09 10:00 AM

"We have 5 children and we are both in agreement that it really doesn't seem right that they do that."
Why not? You get $700 in exchange for $500, PLUS $300 in cs a month. Sounds like a heck of a deal to me.


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You're kids aren't getting screwed... [Re: Vossler]
      #608872 - 12/08/09 11:19 AM

The taxpayers would be if they were to stop CS...which they won't. As long as you receive any type of government assistance, the state (taxpayers) want their money back. Therefore, they will continue collecting CS. Once you no longer get assistance, you can try to stop CS. Although some states won't even allow that as they will not allow parents to bargain away what belongs to the child. You can always send your ex back the additional $150 that gets sent to you and that would help his budget. But the $250 the state takes will continue.

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: CuriousGeorge]
      #608873 - 12/08/09 11:21 AM

If dad were to hand her money directly, it would be fraud on her part for not informing WI, and dad would owe the money all over again to the state.

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: almostheaven]
      #608907 - 12/08/09 12:16 PM

Actually no. My intention was to actually drop the Care takers and just have him pay directly. I understand that it can't be both ways and just want to see what I can do to remedy the situation. Not to make it sound as if I would defraud. I'm not really familiar with the laws of the state and county concerning this type of thing however I just want whats best for the kids. I don't have a problem with dropping the CS. I just would like to know more in how it works.

Edited by Vossler (12/08/09 12:21 PM)


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Re: Stopping child support [Re: Vossler]
      #608909 - 12/08/09 12:24 PM

Thanks very much for the insight and information. I'm going to check with my state and delve further into this. I want to do the right thing.

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: Vossler]
      #608931 - 12/08/09 01:47 PM

Well if you stop the Caretakers and try to get CS stopped and the courts won't allow it, you can just have him pay CS then you send it back to him. It's a hassle, but sometimes the courts feel the parents don't have the right to bargain away the "child's" monies.

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Re: Stopping child support [Re: almostheaven]
      #608954 - 12/08/09 03:09 PM

"My intention was to actually drop the Care takers and just have him pay directly."
and
"We talked and both don't like the fact my kids aren't getting the support they need cause the state takes most of it."

That doesn't even make any sense.


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Re: Stopping child support [Re: Vossler]
      #609091 - 12/08/09 07:28 PM

You can no longer have it paid directly in WI. It is state mandated that all CS go through the state. Period. No exceptions.

I don't for one minute buy that you plan on stopping the caretaker whatever it is and have him pay you directly, You can stop it and have him pay you through the state and get the whole amount.

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