c_jane
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Reged: 04/06/07
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Loc: In the Great State of Texas
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Not only do I contribute to Exholes household expenses *I* (as probably 99.99999% of OTHER NCP's) am responsible for DS's expenses when he's with me.
So I pay EXACTLY as much for running a household with DS in it as Exhole does. During the summer when we each have DS 1/2 the time -- I support DS on MY salary MINUS the hefty (to me anyway) CS I send Ex gratis. I have said before & I'll say it again -- they pay for NOTHING that I don't also. They buy clothes for their house; I buy DS clothes for mine. They buy boots for DS; I buy him sneakers. He has a bike I bought that goes between houses. He has a car I bought which I also have inspected and pay taxes on. Ex DID pay $300 last summer for DS to take drivers Ed -- which shocked the he!! Out of me. I paid DS's NJROTC dues for this year.
So out of over $100k of CS I can think of literally ONE instance (the drivers Ed) where I didn't match it with equal expenditures. But remember I spent $3k on the Jeep.
Yes I will HARP on it till the day I die. In my sons case it does NOT and never HAS taken the amount of CS I give them each month to pay for him. I do it on MUCH less. Probably $300/month is all. Kids are NOT that expensive if you're frugal about it.
Oh & I forgot the cell DS has that *I* bought for him & pay the bill on every month.
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Goodmom
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[quote]I'm not looking for an argument, you questioned whether or not that amount of money takes care of **a teenager**. I believe $750, or the almost $850 c_jane pays, is enough to take care of **a teenager**, even without the other parent contributing [/quote]
Maybe where you live. Where I live, it may cover half the cost of raising a kid.
That said, there is no way anyone with kids is living off of $850 a month.
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c_jane
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Posts: 1759
Loc: In the Great State of Texas
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Then stop seeking out my emails & reading them. Put me on 'ignore' & I won't 'make you sick'. There. Problem solved. You're so smart (wink) I'm surprised you didn't think of that yourself.
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Sherron
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"Maybe where you live. Where I live, it may cover half the cost of raising a kid. "
$850 may cover half the cost... then spell it out for me... how do you spend $1,700+ a month one one child?
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gr8Dad
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My point was NOT that it costs less than that to raise a kid, my point was that HER claim is that the family is LIVING off the money. So REGARDLESS of how much it costs to raise a KID, ain't NO family living on 7K a year.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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gr8Dad
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Why, so you can continue to spout your bullsh!t and insult people unopposed? For some reason, not sure why, you get a pass by MOST of the people on here for your wrong actions and your complaints about child support. I will not allow that to go on, because sometimes MEN come to this site for help, and when they see the double standard with YOU, and THEM, in regards to complaining about child support, they might think that such thoughts are okay. And I will defend that every time.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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c_jane
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I would like to know as well. For DS (sophomore in HS) he has $40/year in NJROTC dues. No other extracurriculars or activities. He needs $25/week for school lunches. He is not a big eater -- he is not 6'2" and 235 pounds. He is 5'7", 135 pounds (maybe) and has a BMI of 12. Say $50/month for jeans, socks or some other clothing (bought at Target or Walmart for both me AND his Dad). He's not driving so no gas, insurance, etc.
So we're up to $150 so far + meals at home. Say another $5/day (which is probably high if you cook most meals). So that's another $150.
I can come up with $300/month. My water bill is $45/month, which is the minimum. So you can't even consider 1/2 of that is DS's, since they charge me the minimum every month. Electricity runs me no MORE than $125/month, even in the summer.
Exhole has the SAME size house in the SAME subdivision, so his bills would be comparable to mine.
DS's phone bill is $45/month. I would STILL like to know how it would cost $850 (or DOUBLE that) to raise a teenager.
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BeachBabeRN
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Loc: VA for 21 years, NC forever!
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That's what I agreed with Gr8 -- that no one is living on the child support amount that she pays.
My ex assumed the same thing, that I was living the high life on his $750 per month. **ladylike snort** I don't think so.
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gr8Dad
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Prior to you having 50/50 custody (like you claimed you originally had, them came back and admitted you lied) he needed a larger home, thus the increased cost of housing. Figure a MINIMUM of $200 a month for that, so now we are at $500, right? So there is the additional utility usage, the additional food, etc.
But the BOTTOM line is that you are paying a fixed percentage of your income to support your child. You have the FULL right to think it is too high, and the FULL right to do ANYTHING within your legal power to reduce it (although a MAN trying to reduce HIS child support, on this board, is painted as being SELFISH).
But what you CANNOT do is JUSTIFY that the entire FAMILY is surviving or living well off of the PITTANCE you send them, because it simply is NOT POSSIBLE.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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Sherron
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"But the BOTTOM line is that you are paying a fixed percentage of your income to support your child. You have the FULL right to think it is too high, and the FULL right to do ANYTHING within your legal power to reduce it (although a MAN trying to reduce HIS child support, on this board, is painted as being SELFISH).
But what you CANNOT do is JUSTIFY that the entire FAMILY is surviving or living well off of the PITTANCE you send them, because it simply is NOT POSSIBLE."
If you had to pay cs now, how much a month would you be ordered to pay for one child, as a fixed percentage of your income?
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