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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: MinnesotaMom]
      #799741 - 02/18/13 10:28 AM

I hardly think the child starved missing a day of lunch. Lord knows my kids will run out of money and not know it until they are told by the lunch lady. It's not a priority to them. Now, who sat with who last week at table number two, that my kids will remember.

I do believe if the CP doesn't do as required that the NCP should (if they 'can' and within reason....you the collective can define what is within reason). IMO a few bucks for lunch money is within reason for my personal situation. I think when the NCP doesn't do as required that it falls on the CP. SO why not vice versa?

Lunch money is just one of many issues that CJ complains her ex doesn't manage after fighting tooth and nail to be the CP. Personally CP/NCP in our situation are titles we don't even care about. But not everyone is in that situation. I hope that CJ could see past her hatred for her ex and help out when needed for her son.


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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: MinnesotaMom]
      #799743 - 02/18/13 11:01 AM

[quote]"And anyone like FOTY who takes 5 YEARS to get thru HS is no genius."

Well.....you married him. I'm not sure where that puts you. [/quote]

Stupid. Absolutely the stupidest, most regretable thing I have ever done.

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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: c_jane]
      #799744 - 02/18/13 11:14 AM

"And anyone like FOTY who takes 5 YEARS to get thru HS is no genius."

As the parent of a child who was held back, due to the divorce and subsequent emotional abuse inflicted by her MOTHER, I take GREAT offense at this statement. Sometimes outside influences affect a child's ability to perform, sometimes biological changes keep a child from advancing at the "normal" rate for a short period of time, and sometimes a child just takes a little longer learning certain new concepts. To associate an extra year of learning as an indicator of lower intelligence shows me that you are by NO means of higher intelligence, at least not on any scale I am interested in being measured by. You are ignorant and cruel, and it becomes clearer still why the judge gave the parenting responsibility to Dad in your case.

"Stupid. Absolutely the stupidest, most regretable thing I have ever done."

I NEVER regret my ex wife, as she gave me my three beautiful children. I do not like how it turned out, but I NEVER regret it. It was not a mistake, my children are proof of that.

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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...


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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: gr8Dad]
      #799777 - 02/19/13 08:19 AM

I am a pragmatist. IF I had not married FOTY, I would not know what I had missed. I would not take one million dollars for DS right now, but I would not take one million dollars to repeat my mistake either (if I had the choice).

See, you don't KNOW what children you missed by not marrying your first love, the girl you met at work, a neighborhood girl, etc. You might have missed the best, most intelligent, prettiest, most successful child you could ever want. OR you might have missed the drug addict, the child that would grow up to be a serial killer or bank robber. We never imagine the WORST case -- only the best cases.

I could not miss a child I never had. Neither can you.

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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: gr8Dad]
      #799838 - 02/20/13 09:17 PM

[quote]"And anyone like FOTY who takes 5 YEARS to get thru HS is no genius."

As the parent of a child who was held back, due to the divorce and subsequent emotional abuse inflicted by her MOTHER, I take GREAT offense at this statement. Sometimes outside influences affect a child's ability to perform, sometimes biological changes keep a child from advancing at the "normal" rate for a short period of time, and sometimes a child just takes a little longer learning certain new concepts. To associate an extra year of learning as an indicator of lower intelligence shows me that you are by NO means of higher intelligence, at least not on any scale I am interested in being measured by. You are ignorant and cruel, and it becomes clearer still why the judge gave the parenting responsibility to Dad in your case.

"Stupid. Absolutely the stupidest, most regretable thing I have ever done."

I NEVER regret my ex wife, as she gave me my three beautiful children. I do not like how it turned out, but I NEVER regret it. It was not a mistake, my children are proof of that. [/quote]

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Very well said on all points, gr8dad !


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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: c_jane]
      #799839 - 02/20/13 09:23 PM

[quote]I am a pragmatist. IF I had not married FOTY, I would not know what I had missed. I would not take one million dollars for DS right now, but I would not take one million dollars to repeat my mistake either (if I had the choice).

See, you don't KNOW what children you missed by not marrying your first love, the girl you met at work, a neighborhood girl, etc. You might have missed the best, most intelligent, prettiest, most successful child you could ever want. OR you might have missed the drug addict, the child that would grow up to be a serial killer or bank robber. We never imagine the WORST case -- only the best cases.

I could not miss a child I never had. Neither can you. [/quote]


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Gr8dad didn't say anything about the kids he COULD have had. He is talking about the kids he HAS.....and that erasing his marriage to his ex might sound good, but that he would never wish for that as that would mean he wouldn't have the children he has. He loves them. They are why he CAN'T regret that marriage.

His reasoning makes sense to me. I've had the same thougts myself.


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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: c_jane]
      #799904 - 02/22/13 11:38 AM

[quote]I know there are some NCPs who will REFUSE to pay for ANYTHING for the child(Ren) beyond the CS. It's been SHOWN that I provide 100% of DS's costs while at FOTY's house (I'll go with Father Of The Year for now). I also give DS an allowance every week, pay for his cell phone & usage, pay for whatever he asks for school wise, bought him a used Jeep, buy him clothes/underwear for my house, etc.

The lunch thing was just to point out that FOTY, even WITH my 100% support of DS @ BOTH houses, can still forget/not be responsible enough/not have $$ enough/whatever to put 5 friggin' dollars in DSs lunch account so he can eat lunch.

And anyone like FOTY who takes 5 YEARS to get thru HS is no genius. [/quote]

So the fvck what!

Join the club, and quit your bitching.

I am so sick of hearing you whine incessantly about paying child support I could scream. My husband paid child support for his children for 15 years; he paid 3x what was required by law (28% of net for two in IL) and on his decree. Wanna know why?

Because his ex-wife was horrible with money (we agreed to pay her mortgage directly BTW), and he didn't want his kids to have to leave their childhood home after they split.

In addition we paid for all their school clothes as well as a wardrobe at our home, cell phones, 100% of medical and insurance as well as half of all extra curriculars. Meanwhile, his ex-wife was eligible for free health care thru the state, child tax credits and earned income credits. I could go on and on, but you get the drift right sweetie? If you're doing the math, yes that meant I financially contributed a significant amount (boatloads at times) to make this possible. Lucky for them right?

Fvckin A right!

The stepchildren are now beyond 18, our child support obligation is complete, and we all enjoy a very close relationship, heck the kids even call my husband now just to say hello. We have NEVER discussed how much we paid to their mother (we believe it's none of their business), my guess is they now have an inkling since her standard of living has since plummeted. It's too bad she didn't use that time to improve her situation. Fortunately not my problem now.

What you're required to pay is what you OWE, and quite frankly, it's not that much. Stop obsessing about your ex-husband and go find a lover; I have a feeling your outlook will improve.

Otherwise sack up and get over it or call your congressman.


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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: steppinx2]
      #799919 - 02/22/13 10:51 PM

Bwahahahahaha!! Just ---- Bwahahahahahaha!!

Oh,and BTW, HONEY -- no one's holding a gun to your head and FORCING you to read my posts! So why don't YOU fvcking put me on 'ignore' -- it'll probably improve YOUR life.

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Edited by c_jane (02/22/13 10:53 PM)


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Re: Against CS and ALIMONY [Re: gr8Dad]
      #800219 - 03/01/13 04:59 PM

Lol..this kid better hope he discover's he's gay, because no girl is going to want to listen to this sh!t from a future Mother in Law.

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