gr8Dad
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"He had his children living with his father, who by accounts from others that he had to be aware of acted inappropriately. Not just kiddie p0rn. He was videotaping girls around the neighborhood in their bathrooms."
Ah, so if you live with someone, you HAVE to know they are unbalanced, right? So I guess it's his missing WIFE'S fault, cause she was LIVING with Josh, so she MUST have known something was going on, right? Oh, wait, no, she DIDN'T know, no one knew, right? But Josh MUST have known about his Dad, right? Nope, same measuring stick.
Oh,. and if he KNEW, why did he, when Dad was arrested, refuse to make bail for him and cut off all contact?
"If my wife disappeared and I had nothing to do with it and my Dad starting acting like that - I would not be living with him."
Well, you better hope that while embroiled in a missing person investigation, with a bitter custody battle going on, you have the extra MONEY to up and move your family out of your residence.
"The state stepped in to make sure the home was safe. They asked him to undergo a psychosexual evaluation. Ouch! I can believe he wasn't sitting for a polygraph on all matters regarding his father AND an eval the days his kids were taken. I would. I would move heaven and earth to make sure I did everything to prove I had no idea, because as a normal person with a normal level of ego I understand how bad that looks."
He DID do what they wanted. He did EVERYTHING they wanted, and four months later, the judge STILL refused to return the kids, despite NOTHING negative about Dad being found.
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Tweeby
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How do you know that nothing was found about him? From him and his lawyer? CPS won't comment on the case because it is against law so whatever we hear it is from his side or possibly from her parents who may be aware of certain things about what the court stated.
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gr8Dad
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"He took his 3 & 5 year old kids "camping in the middle of the week at night in sub zero temperatures, with their mommy in the trunk". That's what he did."
And AMAZINGLY enough, the kids ONLY remembered that "Mommy was in the trunk" TWO YEARS after she disappeared and after spending four months with the grandparents, who are CONVINCED Dad did it. Hmmmmm....WHAT a coincidence.
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gr8Dad
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I know that there is NO evidence that has been presented, yet his CHILDREN were removed. You wanna make up something, feel free, but this is a GENDER issue. Men who are being investigated are FREQUENTLY treated like second class citizens and have children removed from their care "just in case". Its CRAP.
If you know of NO reason (ie, NO evidence), why are you so sure he SHOULD have had them removed? Oh yeah, because AFTER having them removed and being driven insane, he did something insane, right?
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Tweeby
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How do you know that there was no evidence when CPS removed the children from his custody?
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gr8Dad
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Because they STATED that he was unaware of his father's activities. It was his father's activities that was used as the reason for removal.
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Tweeby
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Who is 'they'? I don't see CPS commenting on why the children were removed because it is a confidential matter. Powell and/or his lawyer can claim anything they want to the media because CPS should not answer the reasons why to the media.
I also don't know WA laws on what criteria is used for CPS to remove children from a parent's custody.
Usually children are removed by CPS when CPS believes there is a danager to the childre. Because he did kill the children I would say hindsight is 20/20 and CPS was correct that he was a danger to the children. If 'stress' cause this he has been under an extreme amout of stress for a while now.
Best way to prove that the children were wrongly taken from your custody is to prove it. So far his actions haven't proved that they were wrongly taken from him. I would say the same if a Mother had killed her children duing a supervisored visit.
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gr8Dad
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Then we will have to agree to disagree. He is not the first father to have his kids taken while under investigation for a crime with NO evidence that the Dad was the perp. And I maintain that CPS and the courts can DRIVE a person to do extreme and horrible things, then sit back, point their fingers and say, "Look, see, we told you..." It is a self fufilling prophecy.
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LexieBelle
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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck? It's a damn good likelihood? It's a DUCK.
And in the case of MURDER and it's a "duck", you err on the side of extreme caution to protect innocent children. Which is what CPS and the courts did, ultimately (cuz when you add his father's.. tendencies.. well, the whole apple doesn't fall far from the tree, the genetic predispositions issue yadda yadda.. it's a no brainer to take the kids).
But regardless, here's the ultimate thing: NO ONE CAN PUSH SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THEMSELVES ANYWAY.
The man wrote "I'm sorry" to his lawyer? Because he LIED to his lawyer. I'd stake my own life on it.
I honestly find that anyone can somehow "justify" what he did to his children? Truly sickening. I'm glad the bastard took himself out.. I'm sorry he's a typical man who thinks children are his "property" and his narcissistic ass had to take them out with him. Disgusting.
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Tweeby
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Many Mothers have had their children taken by CPS also.
I don't see this a gender issue where it seems that you do. I hear what his lawyer has stated but we are not hearing anyother side because CPS records are not public knowledge. The court wanted an eval done on him and I don't see that as being too unreasonable.
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