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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: gr8Dad]
      #787263 - 06/22/12 11:10 PM

"Now WATCH the video. At the 1:50 to the 2:00 mark, he states CLEARLY that Martin reached for his gun, and he pulled it and shot him."
No he SAYS CLEARLY, idiot, I thought he was reaching for my gun,

"Now, i will say that I see your confusion about telling someone to NOT call 911. He DID say that, but NOT after he shot Martin, he said it while being beat, and what he said, in response to the person saying they were calling 911, was, "No, HELP ME!" In other words, in the time it took to call 911, he, Zimmerman, might have been DEAD."

No!!! When the shot was fired and a teenager was killed a neighbor came out. IT WAS AFTER THE KILLING THAT Mr. Zimmerman told the neighbor to NOT call 911. AFTER THE SHOOTING.

In your "story" a neighbor comes out of his home. Sees Zimmerman being beat and the neighbor says I'm calling 911. Zimmerman says... no don't. So the neighbor goes back into his condo? Yet THAT neighbor didn't see anything, according to police records untill after he came back out of his house and saw Zimmerman on top of a dead kid? Gotta ya


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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: gr8Dad]
      #787264 - 06/22/12 11:45 PM

"Zimmerman NEVER flipped the body over, Martin was found face down on the ground when the police arrived. And he NEVER EVER told anyone NOT to call 911."

You are a complete idiot. Zimmerman tells the police: "I shot him then turned him on his back and got on top of him I wasnt sure I got him"

"And he NEVER EVER told anyone NOT to call 911."
Hello? What did you say?


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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: toomom]
      #787265 - 06/22/12 11:48 PM

Before you react...the police found Zimmerman on top of the boy (face up) when they got on the scene.

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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: toomom]
      #787266 - 06/23/12 12:03 AM

I am done talking with you about it, because you are SO ill informed as to make this discussion a waste of time. I leave you with one final link. It is the initial report of the scene, and the first responding officer clearly states Zimmerman was placed in custody and Officer Smith saw a black male lying FACE DOWN in the grass with his hands tucked underneath him. Have a great night, and really read up on a topic before you debate it, you will sound like less of an ass.

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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: gr8Dad]
      #787321 - 06/25/12 07:44 AM

When i do so, I use EVIDENCE or THINGS to BACK IT UP. So back it up, or SHUT UP.

>>>>>>>>> OH REALLY ? PROOF like this ?

" Bottom line, YOU are a racist, because you refuse to accept that the BLACK KID might have done something wrong."

Now who said that ?


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What you are is a hypocritical blowhard .

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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: googledad]
      #787350 - 06/25/12 03:50 PM

I said it, and I stand by it. assuming the "black person" did something wrong because they are black is racist. Assuming, or pushing that they DIDN'T do something, just because they are black, even if it is in fear of someone THINKING you are racist, is JUST as racist.

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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: gr8Dad]
      #787390 - 06/26/12 07:11 AM

Like I said , the only one who can call people racist is YOU .

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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: googledad]
      #787397 - 06/26/12 08:42 AM

Ha, if only the police chief had been in a union. He offered to resign, they did not accept. They went through the due process, and made a decision. It isn't always about the investigation, it is about what a chief of police represents to the community. Or maybe he just wanted to draw UI, so if he resigned, he couldn't. Who knows, you cannot say any more about this than you can the whole shootign issue, what you read, what you hear, what you choose to believe. Ironically there was an earl;ier incident where George Zimmerman was actually speaking up against the departments treatment of the son of a police officer who beat up a homeless man. So maybe this was the straw that broke the camel's back.....

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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: Redlegg]
      #787406 - 06/26/12 03:33 PM

Actually, Lee was brought in during that incident. The chief that tried to cover for his son was removed, and Lee stepped in to fill the slot.

Now THIS case, in which they can show LITTLE that was not done properly, but the black community INSISTS that some heads roll, and they do, even if the facts don't bear that out.

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Re: OT-Sanford police chief fired...for what? [Re: googledad]
      #787407 - 06/26/12 03:35 PM

Nope, anyone can call anyone racist. But you have to have a REASON. And YOUR supposed reason for calling me a racist is because I believe the latinos version of events, as they are backed up with PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, as oposed to the African American's version, whicj is based SOLELY on OPINION from his parents and friends.

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