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Shame that didn't make it into the one for Twin Retreat, huh? Then you might have a case. But since it DIDN'T, you don't.
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He wasn't following him, he was attempting to keep an eye on him.
>>>>>>>>> That would be following him . Plus saying he was following him and then LYING by saying he was only looking for an address .
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But, you see, you cannot PROVE that he lied about what happened that night, without a reasonable doubt. Just because YOU don't think his injuries were bad enough is not proof that he lied. Because you don't think he should have gotten out of his car, doesn't mean he lied. You have to provide CONCRETE EVIDENCE to support your theory, or he walks, and THAT is the end of the story.
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[quote]Shame that didn't make it into the one for Twin Retreat, huh? Then you might have a case. But since it DIDN'T, you don't. [/quote]
>>>>>>>>> Then Georgie didn't have a neighborhood watch program which would make him a vigilante .
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He was looking for an address when he was going BACK to his truck. When he got out of his truck, he was trying to keep an eye on a person doing something suspicious.
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But, you see, you cannot PROVE that he lied about what happened that night, without a reasonable doubt.
>>>>>>>> There's plenty of reasonable doubt . His demeanor , " injuries " and story don't add up .
Just because YOU don't think his injuries were bad enough is not proof that he lied.
>>>>>>>>>> But a scratch on Trayvon's left knuckle proves he's telling the truth ? You're RIDICULOUS .
Because you don't think he should have gotten out of his car, doesn't mean he lied.
>>>>>>>>> But Trayvon not running all the way home proves George is telling the truth ? YOU'RE RIDICULOUS .
You have to provide CONCRETE EVIDENCE to support your theory, or he walks, and THAT is the end of the story.
>>>>>>>>>> No , the prosecutor does . 4 weeks in jail and counting for Georgie for lying to a judge .
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">>>>>>>>> Then Georgie didn't have a neighborhood watch program which would make him a vigilante"
LOL, again, you are pathetic, because the manual from Twin Retreat doesn't have EVERY aspect of EVERY watch program across the nation YOU have deemed it invalid? LMAO, you are really grasping there, dude.
Oh, and a "vigilante" is, per dictionary.com, "any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime". Zimmerman was defending himself from an ATTACK. Now, if you have EVIDENCE that an attack didn't happen, feel free to present it, but you have none, because there IS no evidence that an attack by Martin did not occur.
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LOL, again, you are pathetic, because the manual from Twin Retreat doesn't have EVERY aspect of EVERY watch program across the nation YOU have deemed it invalid? LMAO, you are really grasping there, dude.
>>>>>>>> Yup , cuz NOT doing those things can result in arrest or criminal fines . The homeowners association MAY be finiancially liable as it is .
Oh, and a "vigilante" is, per dictionary.com, "any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime". Zimmerman was defending himself from an ATTACK.
>>>>>>>> Or initiating one .
Now, if you have EVIDENCE that an attack didn't happen, feel free to present it, but you have none, because there IS no evidence that an attack by Martin did not occur.
>>>>>>>>>> There's evidence a confrontation occured , not WHO started it .
We do know one participant has a history of violence and was armed . And he lies when conveniant .
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">>>>>>>> There's plenty of reasonable doubt . His demeanor , " injuries " and story don't add up ."
Again, YOUR opinion, no facts presented.
">>>>>>>>>> But a scratch on Trayvon's left knuckle proves he's telling the truth ?"
It is not, of itself, proof, but it is part of the puzzle. Lets try something simple. Would you agree that there WAS an altercation? Would you agree that SOMEONE attacked SOMEONE that night? You would HAVE to, as there are witnesses to the fact that there was an altercation. And at least ONE witness saw one person on top of the other.
So lets look at the evidence to see if we can determine WHO was on the ground and who was on top. Lets see, Martin? The ONLY mark on him is on his finger. Zimmerman? DOCUMENTED injuries to his face and head, NO marks on his hands. So if MArtin was on the bottom, Zimmerman manged to injure Martin's FINGER with an abrasion, apparently using his FACE and the back of his HEAD to do so. If Zimmerman was on the bottom, Martin injured his finger while hitting Zimmerman.
So which sounds MORE logical? And I REALLY wanna hear you SAY it, if you believe the FIRST possibility.
">>>>>>>>> But Trayvon not running all the way home proves George is telling the truth ?"
Again, not in and of itself, but again, it is a piece of the puzzle.
See, you are hanging your theory one disproving ONE or TWO pieces of the puzzle, but they do not stand ALONE, they are a SERIES of events and evidence that can only come to ONE conclusion, that Martin wanted to show the big fat white guy how tough he was, and did so by attacking him. It is not a BLACK thing, it is not a WHITE thing, it is a 17 year old filled with testosterone thing, and he made a bad choice by bringing a fist to a gunfight.
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">>>>>>>> Or initiating one ."
So Zimmerman INITIATED contact leaving on a small abrasion on Martin's FINGER?!? Really? What did he do, sneak up behind him and SNIP him on the knuckle?
And PLEASE do not waste your time claiming he VERBALLY initiated it, becase under the law, I can stand in front of you and call you the son of a motherless GOAT, and when you hit me, YOU broke the law and go to jail.
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