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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Redlegg]
      #803466 - 06/07/13 04:11 PM

"But for some reason you are lumping all republicans into this religious right group"

How am I doing that?


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: english7]
      #803468 - 06/07/13 04:31 PM

"I still think the Republican Party should not define themselves as the Christian Conservative party."

The republican party, not some republicans, not a few republicans, but the entire republican party...


"You know, I think Republicans would do better in upcoming elections if they didn't make religion their principle concern. Remember separation of church and state? Republicans of past did not preach like this. I don't understand why they are so focused on it now."


The republican party, not some republicans, not a few republicans, but the entire republican party...



"Do you disagree with my thoughts that the Republican party should not campaign by bringing religion into their rhetoric so often? That's fine if you do. These are just my thought. I'd like to see a Republican candidate who does not do that."


The republican party, not some republicans, not a few republicans, but the entire republican party...


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Redlegg]
      #803469 - 06/07/13 04:58 PM

You are right. I should have said "those in the Republican party who ..." I was generalizing, and I don't mean to. I liked McCain and don't recall thinking that way about him. Then again, I consider him one of the old guard, and they were careful not to bring religion up front.

I still think the Republican Party (and you can say other parties) ought to come together and make this topic a part of their discussion when considering how to win future elections.


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: english7]
      #803470 - 06/07/13 07:03 PM

“You know, I think Republicans would do better in upcoming elections if they didn't make religion their principle concern.
I still think the Republican Party should not define themselves as the Christian Conservative party.
I wanted to make a point that Republicans need to do better if they want to win the next time. They should get off the religion bandwagon
the Republican party should not campaign by bringing religion into their rhetoric so often
I'd like to see a Republican candidate who does not do that.
All I'm saying is that I want a Republican candidate who does not speak as if he or she is talking mostly to the religious Right.
I still think the Republican Party...”

----->We heard you, you keep repeating the same thing. How could you not know that you are lumping all Republicans into this “Religion Right”. I think your “Religion Right” may have been a typo, or possibly a Freudian slip.

----->As a teacher though, are you impressed with the Valedictorian's accomplishments, even though he broke this rule?


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Redlegg]
      #803471 - 06/07/13 09:02 PM

From Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for 20 years:

youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Redlegg]
      #803472 - 06/07/13 09:32 PM

This video clip really makes me feel sick. Reverend Jeremiah Wright says "God Damn America" repeatedly- 3X (at the 2:00 mark). I’m glad English brought up religion in politics. Sometimes we forget which pews Obama was in for all those years!

thehollywoodgossip.com/videos/jeremiah-wright-clips/


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: SweetLight]
      #803473 - 06/07/13 11:13 PM

"----->As a teacher though, are you impressed with the Valedictorian's accomplishments, even though he broke this rule?"

Actually, wouldn't it be plagarism?

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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: gr8Dad]
      #803474 - 06/08/13 12:06 AM

I'm done here. You go Sweetlight, Gr8, Red....

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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: english7]
      #803475 - 06/08/13 01:42 AM

Sounds to me like he understands the importance of representing THE PEOPLE more generally.

---> He's a politician...it's all bullcatmonkeyshit. He's identifies as a member of a political party and as such, is incapable of truly representing the people. And it's the same with any government 'officer'...whether it's federal, state or your local mayor.

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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: english7]
      #803477 - 06/08/13 02:40 AM

I liked McCain and don't recall thinking that way about him. Then again, I consider him one of the old guard, and they were careful not to bring religion up front.

---> Had nothing to do with being careful, but simply because 'religion' wasn't the issue then that it is today. If you objected to saying "one nation under God" or didn't want your kid saying it...ya just didn't say it. If the school was having a Halloween party and you didn't want your kid attending...other arrangements for your child were made. NOT today...oh no...sue the school and make sure that NO ONE gets to say the Pledge or have a party.

---> Say what you want, but religion IS under attack. The First Amendment guarantees the right of freedom OF religion, but there are growing elements that believe that it should be freedom FROM religion. Think of what happened to the USSR under Stalin...religious property was confiscated, religion was ridiculed, believers were harassed, atheism was propagated in the schools; and that's just the nice stuff. We already see a lot of that today...you have certain elements that are demanding that churches should be taxed, we see the ridicule here, we've seen instances of harassment on the news. The ironic thing is...it is BECAUSE of the "godless Communists" that "God" was added to the Pledge and our currency. Seventy plus years later...[censored] is a republic with a huge religious population and we are becoming "godless Socialists".

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