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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803490 - 06/08/13 12:01 PM

"Michael Steele was recently interviewed about the future of the GOP, as in the Grand Old Party. He said, "You know, Republicans should run in the communities as they find them, not as you want them to be or think they are. And the moment you sort of get past that pretense and that falsehood that, you know, everybody, you know, is with you because they're with the other guy, you can have a conversation about the things that matter. You can have a conversation about the things that matter to people, as opposed to matter to your party." Sounds to me like he understands the importance of representing THE PEOPLE more generally."

If only the Dems took that to heart, presenting the people more generally, running communities as they find them, not as they want them to be or think they are. I'm stunned you only take issue with that with one party, when both are doing it. Guess only one party needs "fixing" in your mind, the one you don't agree with... if only Republicans would be more like Democrats, then they would have a chance to win your vote...


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803491 - 06/08/13 12:02 PM

""----->As a teacher though, are you impressed with the Valedictorian's accomplishments, even though he broke this rule?"

Actually, wouldn't it be plagarism?"

The accomplishments that earned him the title of valedictorian, stop being deliberately obtuse.


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803492 - 06/08/13 12:06 PM

"What is "under attack" is the PRIMARILY Christian desire to do what they want where they want, when they want, regardless of the rights of OTHERS to not have to LISTEN to it.
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No religious property has been confiscated, the GOVERNMENT is not ridiculing religion (PEOPLE do, but that is covered under the first ammendment as well. You get to pray, we get to laugh at you), believers are not harrassed (but do an AWFUL lot of harrassing themselves), etc etc."

Following your logic, would Christian not also have to right to not listen to being laughed at? And if you don't think believers are being harassed, you should read some of your posts.

"The problem with YOUR belief right now is that you ONLY see "religion" as CHRISTIANITY, and I hate to tell ya, but there are others (shh, don't tell the JW's), and they deserve as much respect as YOURS."

I'm just waiting for you to "respect" muslims as much as you do Christians and start ragging on those hypocritical a$$holes and their fairy tale book. Does not being an equal opportunity religion hater make you a hypocrite...

"I think that would be the same freedom of speech that lets you pray how you want."

You mean in the privacy of your own bedroom with no one else around to hear you...


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803493 - 06/08/13 12:08 PM

"Nothing should happen to the kid, because of two reasons. One, no 17 year old thinks THAT much about God, his PARENTS put him up to this. Second, a rule needs to be made that Valedictorian speeches need to be pre screened and if he goes off script, he gets shut down."

Well, I'm just glad you are able to ascertain this young adult's true believes, and that they could not possibly be his own, or his own decision... but yes, let's shut down freedom of speech, and quickly, we cannot have people speak freely, on things we don't agree with, where does he think he is, America??


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803494 - 06/08/13 12:08 PM

"He'll be punished with a life of believing in a fake deity, and then find out he was fed a line of BS by his parents."

Seems to work for Obama.


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803496 - 06/08/13 12:18 PM

Didn't work too well for the bible thumpers killed in Oklahoma.

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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: spinnerdegrassi]
      #803498 - 06/08/13 12:23 PM

"Didn't work too well for the bible thumpers killed in Oklahoma. "

Unless those were the atheists...


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803500 - 06/08/13 12:32 PM

Atheists don't live in hillbilly states like Oklahoma.

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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: spinnerdegrassi]
      #803502 - 06/08/13 03:29 PM

"Atheists don't live in hillbilly states like Oklahoma."

And now you know why...


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Re: OT - Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips speech [Re: Sherron]
      #803503 - 06/08/13 03:39 PM

"Second, a rule needs to be made that Valedictorian speeches need to be pre screened and if he goes off script, he gets shut down."

Oh look...

High School Cuts Mic During Valedictorian Speech
School district says students were told microphone would be turned off if they deviated from planned speeches

The Joshua High School valedictorian veered off his prepared speech and talked about freedom of speech when administrators turned off his microphone during Thursday night's graduation ceremony.

"I worked hard to earn the right to address you all tonight as valedictorian and have the constitutional right, like any of you, to freely speak," Remington Reimer said.

But administrators cut off his microphone before briefly turning it back on.

"Yesterday, I was threatened to have my mic turned off," Reimer continued.

That's when the district pulled the plug for good.

Many people applauded as he continued speaking even though few could hear him.

Joshua school district administrators say they censored Reimer because he began to stray from his prepared remarks.

"At the time that the speech was deviated from, the microphone was turned off -- and they were told that, prior to the graduation ceremony, regardless of content," Superintendent Fran Marek said.

In addition to being the smartest kid in his class, Reimer was active in Junior ROTC and has accepted a full scholarship to the U.S. Naval Academy, friends say.

In his speech, he mentioned God and Jesus and his religious faith while urging others to stick up for their constitutional rights.

Administrators say his religious comments had nothing to do with their decision to cut him off, noting that other students were allowed to make religious comments which had been pre-approved.

"The valedictorian, salutatorian and historian speeches were all reviewed prior to the graduation and had prior approval," Marek said. "The students were told that if they deviated from their speeches, the microphone would be turned off, regardless of content."

The Reimer family is not talking about the incident. A notice taped to their front door said, "No comment."

The Joshua Independent School District has posted its statement about the graduation on its website.


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