all2u
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I want to know, How and why can a woman, refuse to sleep with a man for over a year or have any type of relationship, throw him out of his home after 18 years, take everything they own., Accuse him of an affair, alcoholism and drug abuse. Even after submitting to a drug test to prove himself innocent. Have the court order him to give her most of his paycheck,pay all the debt and then have him thrown in jail indefinitely without a bond, without a hearing and without any means of getting out, when he can't possibly do it all? Then you ask why so many men evade the court after a divorce and become what they call "Dead Beat Dads" or commit suicide just before, during or after a divorce! I know a man Robert Edward Jernigan who is currently in Lee county jail with just this situation! Major Point here! His estranged wife works in the legal community and has for 16 yrs. Her father is well known and has a lot of pull. Less than 1 year ago, he had a home, a family and a job he had been at 20 years. His wife threw him out, filed for divorce, lied to the people they knew, their children, the court. Told them all he was an alcoholic and on drugs, she managed with the help of some very ugly people to fake proper service on court dates 3 times, she had family follow him 24 hrs a day/ 7 days a week, refused to let him come home or see his children. Kept records of his every cell phone call via the Internet, tapped his home phone. Daily called threatening him, harassing him and slandering him. Refused to listen to one thing he said, she would hang up after her ranting and raving. I personally witnessed this, for several months. In the beginning he gave her most of his check from cooper tire, well that wasn't enough, she knew he did side work and she wanted it all. She petitioned the court and the court order him to pay 1200.00 a month, for TWO children, pay the insurance on the vehicles, pay off her truck, fix his sons truck because it was using to much oil,(when did it become mandatory for a 16 yr old to have transportation totally supported by his parents?) and to pay the debt in the marriage. She had everything they owed, all he had was a few clothes and his truck, which had a note. He went and took his boat to try and sell it to get out from under some of the debt and that note, because he was drowning. She her mother, her father and his son, came out there, he had 2 friends helping him. The father in law threatens to blow his head off, they are screaming at him, slandering him in front of HIS SON! But he takes it and leaves.She has his friends arrested the next morning within an hour of filing her report. When he went to file his, the sheriff tells him if he does he will lock him up. So he goes to a judge instead and guess what those warrants where never served. She once again petitioned the court and claimed it belonged to the 16 yr old boy! GUESS WHAT< the judge ordered him to return it. This man could not even pay for his own attorney, and the court further ordered him to pay her legal fees. She works remember that! The stress becomes over whelming, this is a daily whipping he is taking, and he tells her STOP, or I am going to disappear, why can't we be reasonable, and settle this and begin healing. She tells him, he is going to pay and he is going to do as she says or he will not have a life! So he leaves after 7 months of torture, he continues to send money by sending it to a friend somewhere else who forwards it to her. Now at no time did he ever stop communicating with her via phone. After about 8 weeks, she tells him ok I agree we need to handle this differently. Promises to stop the harassment and let him spend time with the children. He talks with the Aunt whom raised him, she is all the family he has, and she says Oh yeah, Renee and all of us are going to get along and work this out the best way for the children. So he comes home, he wasn't in town even an hour before his father in law was following him, rammed his truck with his Cadillac and Robert calls 911 and guess who gets arrested? He does, because it was a set up, she never intended to work things out! The police refused to file a report on the accident, saying he would have to wait until he got out of jail. Since when do police not take a report on an accident, because they are arresting one of the drivers? Now that was 13 days ago. To date, he has not been told his exact charges, nor has he gotten to see a judge. He does not have a bond, and none of the attorney's he contacts shows up. Now, why would an attorney not see an inmate? Why would a judge hold a man or make judgements without hearing his side? How can a man in jail pay for anything, when he can't work and has no family? So in 1 year, he went from family man, to pauper in jail with no way out. You know why, his wife is seeing her attorney! He can't prove it, he has no means. But anyone can look at it and see, something is real wrong here! This family thinks they are above the law. I am requesting your personal attention her! ROBERT EDWARD JERNIGAN LEE COUNTY ADULT JAIL IN TUPELO, MS. THE JUDGE IS LITTLEJOHN< :confused: THE JAIL WILL TELL YOU HE HAS NO AMOUNT TO BE RELEASED, NO COURT DATE SET AND NO BOND!
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I find this very hard to believe. AND, if this happened to me and is real, I know exactly what I would do. Might be spending the rest of my life in jail, but sounds like that is what is going to happen to him now.
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all2u
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Call check it out yourself folks, call the lee county jail 662-841-9040 and inquire about this man. You won't believe what they say, No bond, No court date and no amount to pay. I even called the Judge and his Assitant said , He can't talk about the case, the only thing she had to tell him. He just better get a lawyer. Yeah Right!
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wow...is this for real? Um...take it to the media?
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all2u
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I have emailed every state official, news team and so fourth, also I need to add he has not be found guilty of anything or been ajudged a contempt for x amount of days.
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Have you contacted your Congressman?
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all2u
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Yes
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What did he say?
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all2u
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No reply yet
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M5M5
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What did your local news station say when you contacted them? The newspaper? Call some national news stations too.
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Buckeye
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Give him another call. Call the FBI. Call and contact everyone you can think of and ask everyone who they would suggest you contact.
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all2u
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The local could care less, the national has not responded. What happen to the people that would be on this like crazy? What happen to the civil attorney who cares? What happen to a system that once gave a damn. NOBODY CARES, about some man they will never meet and something that will never affect them. Sad but looking very true!
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You guys need a Don Dare then. He would totally expose something like this.
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all2u
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Don Dare of Knoxville? Emailed him too!
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all2u
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What he needs is an Attorney that would be willing to come to another area to fight for him. One that would work out something, he has 50,000 she has frozen from cooper tire. She is now asking the court for it too. She already spent the 401k just before she threw him out. I would be willing to bet, that in discovery of her finances they will find money stashed somewhere. Unless she has put it in her parents account.
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all2u
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This woman and her Father are MASTER manipulators! I have been watching this play out over the last year in amazement! The poor guy dosen't stand a chance!
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all2u
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He was a deacon in the church and a very liked man before this. Some most people will say he was one of the most Godly men they knew. He will not lie to protect himself, he will not even raise his voice to them even. He is very passive! He keeps praying about the situations and he keeps asking me WHY? How can this happen?
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M5M5
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You called our Don Dare? I think he only does local work, but I could be wrong. I've been tempted to call him myself
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all2u
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I emailed him yesterday! I had heard he was a go get'em kind of guy. So maybe if he can't he will know someone to sick on them.
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Is Roger Wicker who you contacted? Here is his contact information if not. With any luck he is back in MS for the Holidays.
http://www.house.gov/wicker/Biography.html
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all2u
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I contacted everyone in the Mississippi Government except him directly. He had no email listed, just a slug bug. So I emailed the main to direct it to him.
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all2u
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His wife is from Tupelo, Ms
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all2u
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Oh I forgot to mention, I have been warned! I better mind my own buisness or I will be down there with him. Now, let me tell you, I have been in the bailbonding buisness here for 8 years. I know what they will do, and she or anyone around her will lie if need be to get to me. Simply because I am his only link to the outside world and help. I have not contacted them, been to the jail or even stepped foot anywhere near anyone even possiably connected to them. If they knew I was doing all this, there is no telling what would happen.
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all2u
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So if I disappear from this site for more than a day, Please email AirForceGirl2100@aol.com for info. She is my daughter. My personal is all2u at aol.com
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Arden
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Don't e-mail him call or fax him at this number.
Tupelo District Office
P.O. Box 1482
500 West Main Street, Suite 210
Tupelo, MS 38802
Telephone: (662) 844-5437
Fax: (662) 844-9096
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all2u
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Ok
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all2u
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I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO FLOOD THIS OFFICE AND INQUIRE ABOUT THIS, AS WE ALL KNOW THE MORE PEOPLE THAT CALL, WRITE AND EMAIL. THE BETTER HIS CHANCES OF GETTING HELP. HERE IS THE LINK FOR OUR GOVERNMENT SITE TO HELP http://www.mississippi.gov/ms_sub_template.jsp?Category_ID=2 .........Tupelo District Office
P.O. Box 1482
500 West Main Street, Suite 210
Tupelo, MS 38802
Telephone: (662) 844-5437
Fax: (662) 844-9096
Edited by all2u (12/20/06 08:32 AM)
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all2u
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Here is the link to the sheriff's Department with Roberts Booking info. http://www.leecosheriff.com/Inmates/ICUD0088.HTM
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>>>>>Then you ask why so many men evade the court after a divorce and become what they call "Dead Beat Dads" or commit suicide just before, during or after a divorce!
I guess it's also why people wonder why so many women set the beds on fire that their husband's are sleeping in. At least it's probably something Chrystal Brames wondered before her police officer husband murdered her, after she repeatedly begged for help and no one would help her because he had all the connections.
Don't stereotype.
As for what's going on, you just have to get attention brought to it. They're one little county in a huge country. If local won't help, go outside that, and keep going. Try smaller issues that would be interested in ANY news story and work your way up. Keep writing your state Senators and Congressmen. Write the President.
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all2u, have you contacted them yourself yet? What did they say?
I don't want to look like I'm speaking for everyone and I do have plenty of sympathy for your friend. I don't want you to get a sense of false hope in thinking everyone will be contacting these offices on behalf of your friend.
While I'm sure most people here don't doubt your story, myself included. It is unlikly that people will go out on a limb without proof that all is true.
What I'm trying to say is most of the leg work is going to fall on you. If you don't get the answers you are looking for go outside the box. Contact the State Police if you feel the locals are covering something up. If you fear for your safety again contact the State Police. If Wickers office blows you off start calling Jackson. Contact the national media. Mens action groups. The ACLU.
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all2u
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[quote]>>>>>Then you ask why so many men evade the court after a divorce and become what they call "Dead Beat Dads" or commit suicide just before, during or after a divorce!
I guess it's also why people wonder why so many women set the beds on fire that their husband's are sleeping in. At least it's probably something Chrystal Brames wondered before her police officer husband murdered her, after she repeatedly begged for help and no one would help her because he had all the connections.
Don't stereotype. ( THANKS MOM )
As for what's going on, you just have to get attention brought to it. They're one little county in a huge country. If local won't help, go outside that, and keep going. Try smaller issues that would be interested in ANY news story and work your way up. Keep writing your state Senators and Congressmen. Write the President. [/quote]........................................................................................................................................................................... Ok, Just for the record! I never said at any point that there were not women out there in just as bad even worse situations. Nor did I imply that! Why is there always someone looking for a Negative to pull out of a conversation? I personally was an abused woman, almostheaven and I lived The Burning Bed, with a different outcome. So I do know the issues there, this is not about those issues. Robert Jernigan is NOT accused of any type of abuse to her or his children. It has never been mentioned , nor has it even been raised. This post is about his being held, unjustly. And Yes, this is one of the biggest reasons men disappear. The wife usually makes life so miserable for him, for whatever reason. I am sure their are women in that same situation. But it is more prevalent in men, and not because they don't love their children. Their are some I am sure that don't give a damn, but this man I have seen in tears, time and time again over not being able to spend time with his. I have seen him sneak to events and hide so that she didn't know he was there, just to watch whatever was going on with his children. They didn't even know he was there. So this is the only post I will respond to here after regarding irrelevant issues. I know that their are many different and worthy scenario's going on in the world. I am just dealing with this one.
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Then you ask why so many men evade the court after a divorce and become what they call "Dead Beat Dads" or commit suicide just before, during or after a divorce!
---> That's a real nice sad story and all that, but do you honestly think that MEN are the ONLY victims?
---> And ANYONE who commits suicide over "family law" is not only an idiot, but a coward too!
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Despite what appears to be something interesting, you tend to lose many readers due to the lack of structure and breaks in your writing. I'm just trying to help you get more exposure and interest in your situation.
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No, this is NOT one of the biggest reasons men disappear. Most of the ones I know of took off BEFORE a divorce was even in the works...my ex, my friend's ex, my aunt's ex, etc. etc. You're ASSUMING that most men take off because of this. So...how many men do you know that have been thrown in jail for no reason? I'm assuming this is not a normal case??? Or do you run accross this daily? If not, then where are you getting this is the reason most disappear?
He isn't being held unjustly because she's a woman or because the system discriminates against him. But because she has a foot into the legal system he does not. Just as I mentioned the problem Chrystal Brames faced. Her husband had a foot into the legal system and she did not. Unless most women have ties in the legal system, they're not going to be able to do this to their exes, and therefore the "reason most men disappear" line doesn't hold true.
You can make it the only time you'll respond if you choose, but I call it stereotyping, then burrying your head in the sand claiming that's not what you're doing. I'll let others decide whether they think you were or not on their own. I've simply pointed out that it's what you're doing and shown where you're doing it. It's up to you to ignore it and do it more, or to not.
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Melody's right. I gave up after a few sentences. That, and the fact that the writer seemed to have been on a tangent about all the so-called unjustices done to "men" and that's why all the men that are deadbeats are deadbeats. BS. I'm sure the actual case being referred to is an injustice, but I was too put off by the sweeping generalizations to read much further. I also find it hard to follow when nothing is broken into paragraphs, and it just goes on and on.
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all2u
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[quote]Melody's right. I gave up after a few sentences. That, and the fact that the writer seemed to have been on a tangent about all the so-called unjustices done to "men" and that's why all the men that are deadbeats are deadbeats. BS. I'm sure the actual case being referred to is an injustice, but I was too put off by the sweeping generalizations to read much further. I also find it hard to follow when nothing is broken into paragraphs, and it just goes on and on. [/quote]..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... I guess I am just ignorant here, I didn't come here to stereotype, debate women, argue over domestic violence, or critic anyone. I just wanted to bring an issue forward to the minds of the general population in hopes for some help, changes in laws in the south and so fourth. YES! This happens a lot in the south, especially Mississippi! Hate to say it, but a pretty, crying, woman appearing helpless and vulnerable still takes the cake in this part of the country. If you notice you don't have very many female posters from this area. The men in this area are very egotistical and look for opportunity to be the biggest bull in the pen. More than anywhere else in the country, here it is, who you are, what you have and how much of it you own! The relationships are all based on it, and controlled by it. They don't like or accept newcomers, UNLESS, you have more money than they do. I do see this a lot here, more often than not it is due to a relationship either impending, current or hoped for by one of the people very close to the issue. Not only in divorce cases, but in everything. Mississippi is a very friendly state on the surface, but the people here will look you in the eye smiling, while their stabbing you in the back. Who said sugar won't get you very far? That being said, I am not a writer, sorry if my lack of abilities puts some off. I guess I was hoping most would see the issue and not the technic. So I guess it is futal to continue. Thanks for the help from those who gave me some Good Advice and help concerning the real issue here.
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almostheaven
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You got help on the "real issue" even from those who told you you were stereotyping. But you block it out because you can't stand to hear anything negative with the positive. But I'll still give you another negative. Loose the ........... across the screen. You're scrolling the text so wide that not only does one have to scroll up and down to read, but also back and forth. You won't get many readers like that.
As for most seeing the issue and not the "technic"?...If you cloud the issue by throwing in stuff that is based on opinion, people are always going to have something to say about the opinion part. Sticking solely to "the issue" would keep that from happening. But only the originating poster can do that by starting out with just "the issue".
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I have a widescreen monitor...and it STILL won't all fit!!!
To the poster....you don't have to be a "writer"...meaning a professional...to post here. Paragraph writing is taught in 4th and 5th grades, and expanded upon in 6th and 7th grades to multiple paragraph essays. All I'm asking for is some natural breaks in the text....someone ANY adult who completed high school should be qualified to do.
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all2u
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[quote]I have a widescreen monitor...and it STILL won't all fit!!!
To the poster....you don't have to be a "writer"...meaning a professional...to post here. Paragraph writing is taught in 4th and 5th grades, and expanded upon in 6th and 7th grades to multiple paragraph essays. All I'm asking for is some natural breaks in the text....someone ANY adult who completed high school should be qualified to do. [/quote]
[u]Geez,Now you are attacking my person, and my education![/u]
[color:red] [u]PLEASE limit your responses to the issue, If you can't help, post where you can![/u][/color]
[b]Mississippi is still a FAULT State. Your ex can accuse you of anything and totally ruin your reputation and life. Once a Judge has ruled on a Temporary order, it remains weather you can meet the order guideline or not. If you not you will end up in jail, for an indefinite period of time, if that judge is not in your favor, blinded by favoritism, can't see the ex's manipulation of the system and facts, or just doesn't real care. [/b]
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all2u
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I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE WITH YOU! JOIN A DEBATING FORUM. I Guess I am just an uneducated idiot for being new and not knowing how to work the options on this site yet!
Thanks, for the help!
If there is someone out there whom is willing to help me learn how to do this, PLEASE! PLEASE! Help, so these women will go find someone else to debate with.
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Help you with what exactly?
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almostheaven
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But when you post in an open forum, you ARE here for debate. Whether you want to debate is not the issue. You have posted in an open public forum where people post opinions, and debate the opinions. Happens in every open public forum.
There's nothing to working options. It's a matter of making sure that you don't use generalizations or express your opinions if you do NOT want such debated. If you however do use them, you're most certain to get a debate. If you give just details to a case and ask for suggestions, that's likely all you can get because you've given nothing for debate. I'd only suggest you hit the Edit button at the top of your post and remove half of the ........... line so that the post doesn't scroll. You've left no breaks. As for paragraphs, it does make it easier for some to read. That is only dependant upon if you want people to read it. Some will simply skip posts they find long, tedious, stretched, or poorly punctuated. Therefore you run the risk of missing replies from those who may know of other options that have not been posted.
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almostheaven
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I think she's asking how to post so people don't get offended by her posts. ;)
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Arden
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Have you got any feedback from your calls and e-mails?
What exactly is he in jail for? I am not clear on that point. Was it for the car accident or were there warrants out for him?
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why should WE leave because YOU don't like what is said? You'd get more help if A) you wrote READABLE text, and B) you didn't insult women by stereotyping, and C) you didn't insult people in general.
If you don't like the responses you get, perhaps YOU need to find another forum.
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all2u
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[quote]Have you got any feedback from your calls and e-mails?
What exactly is he in jail for? I am not clear on that point. Was it for the car accident or were there warrants out for him? [/quote]
No, Not as of this afternoon. He was arrested on a warrant for unpaid child support for the year of 2,000.00.
She claims he has not paid, this amount includes all that he was ordered to pay, not just cash for the children. He pays 14,000.00 in support alone, plus all the debt, extra curricular for the children, and medical/dental/life/auto Insurance for them all.
Who ever heard of a factory worker paying that much? that's half his income in support, not to mention the rest. Then she is gonna grip about 2,000.00? The Judge locked him up for that! The point is, he lost his job due to being in jail, can't hire an attorney, because she has drained him.
So as it stands, he has no out, there is no bond, no contempt, No amount to pay to be released. They say he HAS to hire an attorney or sit until they all rot!
Now if I am thinking clearly, if this was a fair situation. No Judge would lock you up and hold you for a lousy 2000.00, when your paying 14,000 a year plus, cause you to lose your Job, and go bankrupt.
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I've only heard of similar happening once, where a woman didn't pay support and was locked up...and forgotten about. She spent 2 years in jail with no charges, no bond. I don't recall how she managed to get out, but there are laws to prevent it. One just has to find those laws, bring attention to the case and provide the backup (the laws) to show the injustice). Without doing the homework first though, no one would touch it.
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all2u
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Well Folks,
Mr. Jernigan is still in jail, has no court date. He did manage to get an attorney, and once again the attorney came back with " well, she says no way your getting out" talking about the ex wife. Hope they change their mind, I'll keep talking with her attorney. If not the Judge leaves on Holiday the 29th and we'll have to wait until the 5th of January to get him to hear it.
OK, then today the attorney comes in and says now it will be the 10th "MAYBE" He's not sure and the ex and her attorney will not agree to anything! This will mark 32 days he has been in jail without a hearing.
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