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Melanie1
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To bacall - Ordinary World
      #271175 - 08/04/07 07:00 AM

Heard this song the other day by Duran Duran and thought of you. Thought I'd post the words. Don't know if you've heard it before but the music is beautiful and very haunting. Makes me cry everytime I hear it (have it on itunes/ipod/computer). It's also a song I think many here can relate to.

Hope you're doing better bacall...

Melanie

DURAN DURAN LYRICS

"Ordinary World"

Came in from a rainy Thursday
On the avenue
Thought I heard you talking softly

I turned on the lights, the TV
And the radio
Still I can't escape the ghost of you

What has happened to it all?
Crazy, some are saying
Where is the life that I recognize?
Gone away

But I won't cry for yesterday
There's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
And as I try to make my way
To the ordinary world
I will learn to survive

Passion or coincidence
Once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops
Run away
Left me in the vacuum of my heart

What is happening to me?
Crazy, some'd say
Where is my friend when I need you most?
Gone away

But I won't cry for yesterday
There's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
And as I try to make my way
To the ordinary world
I will learn to survive

Papers in the roadside
Tell of suffering and greed
Here today, forgot tomorrow
Ooh, here besides the news
Of holy war and holy need
Ours is just a little sorrowed talk

And I don't cry for yesterday
There's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
And as I try to make my way
To the ordinary world
I will learn to survive

Every one
Is my world, I will learn to survive
Any one
Is my world, I will learn to survive
Any one
Is my world
Every one
Is my world

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The journey of a 1,000 miles begins with a single step. Lao Tzu


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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: Melanie1]
      #271177 - 08/04/07 07:12 AM

I really didn't want to start my Saturday, shedding tears in my coffee, but yep that's what happened. Still emotionally attached. DAM! Profound words to say the least.

I will look for this song. Thanks Melanie for sharing.


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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: willybillie]
      #271190 - 08/04/07 08:28 AM

Willybillie,

Yes, it's a sad song, yet it's also about survival :).

Have a great day!

Melanie

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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: Melanie1]
      #271195 - 08/04/07 09:05 AM

I just had an awaking of sorts, interesting that Duran Duran speaks of missing the ordinary life. Watching the HBO special this morning before golf, they interview people that had a near death experience that now must live with huge handicaps. A young woman that lost both arms in a car accident, now must press on bringing up her young family. A GI injured in Iraq lost both legs, he's engaged and must try to get back to his version of the ordinary life and hope he can find work and keep his woman, build a family, a woman from the minnesota bridge incident that got out of her sinking car as it was filling with water, swimming to shore, now says she is grateful for each second she can spend with her family.

We all have been through some tough times and even I think sometimes I was left with some pretty crappy circumstances after a long marriage and have to find my way to some assemblance of an ordinary, happy life.

I feel pretty blessed that my challenges now seem so small compared to these people's.

Just ranting...


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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: Badasp]
      #271203 - 08/04/07 09:57 AM

Hi Badasp,

I also heard an interview on the radio with a military guy who lost both of his legs. He and his wife were on and talked about their struggles to get back to some kind of normalcy.

Long story short, the guy is still enlisted and wants to continue working with the military and will, but in another capacity. The military has programs for injured vets where they can still help and that's what he wants to do. He stressed how much he loves this country and sees no reason to give up on it.

He's also being fitted for different types of legs i.e. ones for swimming, ones for hiking, etc. Before the military he and his wife did alot of hiking and outdoors stuff, so he's determined not to give that lifestyle up just because he doesn't have any legs.

The couple were truly inspirational and showed just how strong the human spirit can be when faced with adversity.

Definitely makes all our situations pale in comparison when you read, see or hear about this kind of stuff.

Have a good time getting back to your Ordinary World :).

Melanie

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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: Badasp]
      #271206 - 08/04/07 10:09 AM

Bad, It does help to put our woes in perspective.

Although . . . if we're in the middle of a low time, it doesn't always get us back up. I wonder why it takes a crisis to value the everyday beauties in life? An old song said it more plainly: "You don't what you've got till it's gone".

It's always a good message to see how people overcome what life throws at them.

Elizabeth Edwards' book was a good read for that reason--(whether or not one is behind her husband politically) the family has shown a lot of strength and now faces another rough road with the return of her cancer.

Thanks for the song, Melanie. I will try to hear it too.

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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: Patrice]
      #271209 - 08/04/07 10:33 AM

Patrice,

I know that song :). Great tune written by Joni Mitchell called "Big Yellow Taxi" from the 60s or early 70s. Geez, the memories it brings back...

Here's another inspirational story told to me by a friend who I walk with daily.

She and her husband are good friends with this couple. They both are super professionals, went to Oxford and Harvard, have great careers, nice kids, seemingly everything going for them.

Then the husband learns his has MS. Consequently, he and 5 other guys were asked to do a study for Harvard on the effects of the desease.

Five years later, all the other guys are dead.

I told her, the mind is a powerful thing and can overcome incredible odds and that I was betting the reason her friend is still around and NOT in a wheelchair, was due to a positive attitude and refusal to let things get him down.

She said, that's exactly why he thinks he's still alive and not crippled. So does Harvard. I guess part of the study relates to mind over body stuff and the power of positive thinking.

Incredible, huh?

Melanie

P.S. I do hope you get a chance to listen to the Ordinary World; the lyrics are great but the music pulls it all together and I guaranty you won't ever forget it. It's the type of song that sticks with you forever.

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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: Melanie1]
      #271254 - 08/04/07 05:08 PM

Melanie:

To reply to your last post here.

My mother has been an MS patient.. officially since the late 70's, but her first real "attack" was right after giving birth to me. She was "symptomatic" before then, but my birth landed her in a wheelchair. Where she floated in and out of until the early 1980's.

Now, my grandmother (my father's mother) ALSO has MS. She had her first attack in 1967? Somewhere thereabouts. My mother's was in 1969.

My grandmother was using a cane at my parent's wedding in 1965, was in bed by my birth in 1969.

Now, I mention this as fuel for your "mind over matter" comparison of the previous MS example.

First, the TYPE of MS has a direct correlation to ultimate outcome. My mother is "regressive remitting" (like President Barlett on the West Wing). Which means she'll have a pretty big attack (3 in the 1970's) which land her in a wheelchair, and then she's able to "recover" (albeit with residual issues) until the next one. My mother was also 25 or so when she had her first one.

My grandmother, on the other hand, also had regressive remitting; however, her first attack, somewhere in the late 1960's, landed her in bed where she stayed until her death of natural causes (heart attack) at the age of 80, in 1994.

Conversely, my mother wrote 3 books in the 1970's (from her wheelchair) and has run an antiques business since the 1980's.

Why the difference? Age and attitude.

My grandmother was a bit rare in that her FIRST major attack was when she was about 50. MS tends to strike in the 20's or 30's. I think at that point? She just decided she was done. And my grandfather waited on her hand and foot until HE died in 1981.. and then she went to a home where they cared for her. Her life revolved around bowel movements (I swear this.. she kept a calendar).

My mother, on the other hand, has pushed herself to the brink of exhaustional (if that's a word) collapse. She fought to write all her books, typing one-handed through two of them. She's forced herself to be able to keep driving (although an episode a few years back left her in 3 car accidents ALL her fault, rearending people.. depth perception loss).

But she's done what she's done. At 63, she still struggles with the effects of the disease, but she manages and she's still going pretty strong.

I was symptomatic many years ago. I get certain things still (no known hereditary link but to have it on BOTH sides of the gene pool is an oddity, and I've been part of an NIH study on the topic).. and what my mother taught was "biofeedback". Basically,mind over matter. I would get the head shifts (where the world seems like it "shifts" a vast difference up or down or side to side from where you ACTUALLY are).. and I learned to just breathe and to concentrate on NOT feeling "the shift". And I will say? It absolutely 1000% works.

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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: preemiemom]
      #272424 - 08/07/07 01:19 PM

Hi PM,

Wow, both a mother and grandmother having MS with totally different outcomes. Gotta be mind over matter, since they both had the same kind and one fared much better than the other. I'd like to think that with a positive attitude almost anything is possible. Obviously your mom refused to give into it and curl up into a ball and stop living. Good for her. That's the same attitude that my friend's friend with MS has and we're convinced that's why he's still alive.

In any case, thanks so much for sharing your story. It was very informative, educational and inspirational too!

Melanie

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Re: To bacall - Ordinary World [Re: Melanie1]
      #272821 - 08/08/07 08:49 AM

Dear Melanie,
Thanks for thinking of me. I keep trying to place the song -- probably sang my own version of it a long while back. I sent you a "private" message -- hope you got it! Thanks again, bacall
PS -- the world is a brighter place because one more event is behind me -- hopefully, I will learn from the mistakes I keep making -- next time, I am going to armor myself with courage and stay longer -- baby steps, baby steps!! have a good day, bacall


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