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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: Janelle904]
      #314911 - 11/02/07 09:38 AM

BTW...any one who is active duty can be located. Your husband's commander can also be located and his/her duty phone will be provided. If you tell me the location and the squadron/unit I will get that info to you.

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: Miranda]
      #314928 - 11/02/07 09:56 AM

The congressman has a huge staff that handle such inquiries. THey certainly don't do it themself.

You'd be suprised at what they handle on a daily basis. People not getting passports timely, supposedly rude clerks at the Post Office, whatever you as a constituent feel is omportant......

I do question what the OP is doing to better her situation. She wasn't married THAT long. Where was she living before she got married? What about health insurance? What about a job or school?

Edited by 1004SRS (11/02/07 10:01 AM)


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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: Miranda]
      #314967 - 11/02/07 11:22 AM

Read above, actually they called the command and she got something faxed, and was supposedly on the way to get somethng else done. My point is that you want to play the we are at war card when it comes to clogging up time about an ID card, but yet the parties and the "horse and pony" or "dog and pony" shows don't seem to care about the war going on. Why would you think anyone gets mad about a halloween party, if anything I would think you would not go to them because there is a war going on, or does the "there is a war going on" card not mean anything when its party time or politics time?. What I am saying is that if they can have parties, they can square away a simple issue like an idea card. Exactly what kind of leadership is it when a Commander cannot even get a simple matter like an ID card cleared up, yes, you are right yikes is the word. part of the problems with some of the leadership is that the politics get in the way of leading, but the politics do not excuse inaction. It doesn't matter what color your ID card is, what matters is that you have one, it wouldn't matter if it was green, pink, purple or peach, you have the choice to use it, you have the choice to not use it, so that doesn't really apply. Amazingly enough, the senior leadership of the services will tell you that the needs of the family are one of the needs of the military. It would seem that not only did her husband not keep up his end, but the Chain of Command is following suit. I have continually suggested the chain of command, and always will, they deserve a chance, but between this and her other posting on the matter it seems they are not much help either. A military dependent, child/wife/husband deserves no less and no more respect than anyone else, to include active duty members, it is the team concept. I am guessing that since you are in DEERS and you have other health insurance, then TRICARE is your secondary, or do you just pay out of pocket?

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: 1004SRS]
      #314968 - 11/02/07 11:28 AM

Its hard to explain, but I agree with you and Miranda, short marriage, the whole thing stinks. I guess what I am looking at is why does any of that matter when it comes to entitlements, its not a gray area, either she is entitled or she is not entitled. Why do the circumstances mean so much when at the end of it all she is a military dependent who is being given a difficult time. She would not be entitled to any more if she had been married for 10 years and couldn't get on post or get her children to a doctor. Yeah she sounds extreme and I am still waiting to hear what was faxed and the whole PSD getting somethnig done, and i know there are two sides but so far it does sound like she is getting the run around.

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: Redlegg]
      #314990 - 11/02/07 11:58 AM

First - I don't understand why she needs an ID when she wants a divorce. Either you are divorcing him or not.

And file the paperwork in Florida already. Send him papers that say everybody keeps the property currently in their possession and you waive any right you may have to any military retirement he has earned during the marriage. He'd be a world-class idiot to not sign them.

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: Redlegg]
      #314994 - 11/02/07 12:03 PM

My point is that you want to play the we are at war card when it comes to clogging up time about an ID card, but yet the parties and the "horse and pony" or "dog and pony" shows don't seem to care about the war going on. Why would you think anyone gets mad about a halloween party, if anything I would think you would not go to them because there is a war going on, or does the "there is a war going on" card not mean anything when its party time or politics time?.

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What? I don't even know what you are trying to say. There are war time duties and peace time duties/ state side duties. I don't control who has to cut a ribbon-and I think I have seen that twice in 15 years one being at BAMC. I really don't understand why you are so angry at senior leadership.

My husband is now at Ft. Rucker in Alabama training so he can leave on his second tour to Iraq in January. I'll be sure let him and his comrades know that he is good enough to get shot at and to dodge insurgent attempts to shoot him down, but by golly if a dependent calls and he does not get her an ID card he should be relieved of his position due to incompentency. Redlegg, the more I think about what you said the more furious I get. Especially as a veteran.

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: elliesmom]
      #314995 - 11/02/07 12:03 PM

what kills me about these "entitlements" is that none is this crap would even matter if this was a civilian.

besides - this poster has the sense to get married and make sure she gets an ID card but has no clue how to go to the courthouse herself to file divorce papers on a 3-4 month marriage.....stop making excuses and be responsible for your life.

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: Miranda]
      #314999 - 11/02/07 12:08 PM

About that fax... if she got a damn fax wouldn't ya think she'd know where it came from? She received a fax yet doesn't know the fax number? What?

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: matart1]
      #315001 - 11/02/07 12:10 PM

besides - this poster has the sense to get married and make sure she gets an ID card but has no clue how to go to the courthouse herself to file divorce papers on a 3-4 month marriage.....stop making excuses and be responsible for your life.


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Right. It is amazing to me that she thinks as soon as "the system" notices her in FL that money will automatically be sent to her, and that she wants her health insurance, and that she has no money because her ex is not giving her the difference between married and single rate BAH...yet she does not know how to call the command or file for divorce??

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Re: The Hell Continues [Re: matart1]
      #315004 - 11/02/07 12:14 PM

Today - at the weekly social - I'll be sure to remind everyone that even though this type of event brings normalcy to extremely stressed out people (because of that pesky war) its inappropriate in light of it.

Social events, including the upcoming ribbon cutting at the community center in housing next month, are what bring everyone in the military back down to earth after they spend all day figuring out how to say destroy China militarily with the fewest civilian casualties. Or make operation plans that allow for so many people (our own) to die. We like those people to be able to stay in their job mentally, which is why we hold those events.

Helping a "spouse" get an ID card against the will of the military member who is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING she chooses to do with it - does NOTHING for military readiness. And that is why no one gives a sh!t if it gets done yesterday. Especially when the spouse in question wants a frickin divorce.

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