Misslisa1017
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My son has the no smoking ordered by his judge and his ass of a lawyer didn't put it in the court order. Now, he's going to have to go back to court and have it put in with the transcripts...his old GAL told him to bring the ex back to court becasue she's allowing people to smoke around the baby. He asks her why his son smells like smoke and she says
no one is smoking around him.
Well if no one is smoking around him, then this 19 month old is having cigarette breaks behind a couch somewhere. He reaks. Her parents smoke. I don't know about anywhere else but this judge seemed like he meant businesswhen he orderd no smoking around this baby. He's on his third ear infection in less than two months.
I like the idea of the note from the doctor about the baby not being around cigarette smoke. I think we are going to do that this week.
Have you tried going back to court? And what happened? Please let me know. where are you located?
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Misslisa1017
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This is how my poor Grandson comes to our home every weekend. He reaks of a cigarette. It's horrible. His diaperbag, his clothing, his jacket, everything. His sneakers. Every part of him stinks. It's horrible.
Sad sad, sad. And here's a kid that's been affected by it with his health. But his mother denies it. Says that his ear infections are hereditary. What a moron. I'm sorry. I'm so sick of being nice. How long do you do damage to your own child? When should dad step in and offer to provide a smoke free environment?
When is enough enough?
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preemiemom
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Says that his ear infections are hereditary. What a moron. I'm sorry. I'm so sick of being nice. How long do you do damage to your own child? When should dad step in and offer to provide a smoke free environment?
When is enough enough?
First, she's NOT a moron. Hereditary factors are like the #2 reason children have recurrent ear infections. If you have a parent or parents who had them recurring as a child, and their parents, etc etc etc, the more likely THEIR child is to have them.
My daughter has it on my side something horrible, and she did, indeed, have horrible recurring ear infections to the point of having tubes put in at 18 months.
Her father is also a 2 pack+ a day smoker. Even her ear doctor, who is one of the top 10 in the state of NY, didn't put smoking as the #1 cause. Yes, it is a FACTOR, but it is a combination of:
Heredity
DAYCARE (!!!!!) (WAYYYYYYYYYYY outweighs smoking as a risk factor)
Smoking
Prematurity/low birth weight
Sooo, why dont you stop just LOOKING for excuses for your son to take this child away from its mother? It's wearing very thin and becoming VERY transparent.
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Misslisa1017
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Preemiemom,
Please, get off your high horse. I don't need your crap today.
My son has let this girl get away with this for too long. I'm glad he's finally going to do something. What really is disheartening is I had a stroke and wasn't there to help him out through all of this and probably took away some of his attention from the issues. He has trouble with his handwriting, and yeah he probably could've had someone help him fill out paperwork, but he was worried while I was in the hospital.
Anyway, the important thing is, look it up on the web, smoking and ear infections. You'll be suprised at what you find. I'm not sure if you smoke or not, and I'm not going to make the assumption and say that you probably smoke.
But all the professionals that my son has talked to so far have stated to my son that smoking is the number one reason for repeated ear infections. Number two is exposure to sick children, number three hereditary factors.
Her family does not have hereditary factors other than the smoking. And cps has been involved because of it. Because the parents were told to quit because of the harm it was doing to their youngest child and they would not stop smoking around him. Let me back that up, they were told to either quit, or take it outside, and they told cps workers that they would not smoke outside.
This little boy is now hearing impaired. Yep from repeated ear infections.
No I'm not kidding. I know this because my youngest is best friends with the boy. He's a sweetie. He's got tubes in his ears. His parents have told us they dont' give a crap that their smoking caused it, they will continue to keep smoking. Screw the system. They drink, do drugs and that's their business. Hey, to each their own right?
He's not allowed to play with my son anymore because the parents don't want their son to accidentally tell us that there are drugs in his house, nor is my son allowed at their home because my son gets sick at their house because of the smoking. Such is life.
My son has no intention of taking that baby away from mom, if that was his intention he would've done it along time ago, he's waited a long time to do that. He feels mom is just as important as he is. You are very one sided sometimes.
Don't judge, because this time you are wrong. He won't stand by and watch is son deteriorate. He's had plenty of conversations with Mom, asking and pleading with her to please keep the child out of the smoke for healths sake. And if she needed a setting for the baby to please call him or me or anyone that there was a non smoking setting.
Dad has always been there. For babysitting, for financial purposes for whatever mom has needed. Hasn't missed child support. Is always there for the baby, hasn't missed a visitation. He's a great father. Mom is a great Mom, but she's making some bad choices is all. It doesn't make her a bad mom. And no she shouldn't lose custody over it.
That's not my sons intention at this point anyways. His intention right now is to get the no smoking into the court order. So hopefully she'll actually follow. But I ask you. IF she's not following it now, knowing that the judge ordered it, even though it wasn't put in the court order, do you honestly think she's going to follow it once it's in there.
I have a feeling she won't.
But even though I have a feeling she won't. I do hold the hope that she will. I want to hold hope for the future. Hope that she will, will try to make a better future for my Grandson. Because I think everyone has good in them. I like my Grandsons Mom. And I think she will eventualy do the right thing.
Lisa
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Misslisa1017
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Again he's not looking to take the baby away...And the baby is not in DAYCARE so get over the DAYCARE thing.
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Miranda
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Again he's not looking to take the baby away...And the baby is not in DAYCARE so get over the DAYCARE thing.
You go girl. People need to realize that not everything is about them. The constant changing of subject matters makes it hard to understand what the thread is even about.
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Relayer
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Just as an FYI, Chantix does work.
And yes, it's easy to smell smoke. Just as a non-drinker can more easily smell alcohol.
And yes, there is a link between ear infections and smoking
Worse, there is a link between smoking and cancer, be it first or secondhand smoke.
But, back to Chnatix, including myself, I know 5 others that have quit in the last year using it. It didn't take long either. To me, it was a miracle drug.
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GO CUBBIES!!!!
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Miranda
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Oprah just had this on this week. They said that out of 4 cigarettes the parent smokes, the child smokes one due to second hand smoke. Smoking in the car with children is horrible.
My old neighbor smoked like a chimney in her house and her daughter was constantly sick, always...and then she would complain about her doctor "not knowing what was wrong". I would say how about giving her some clean air to breathe for starters.
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Misslisa1017
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And they'd look at you like you had two heads. Some people don't want to hear that cigarettes are the cause of illness. Plain and simple. And that's okay. We can just agree to disagree here. That's all.
Second hand smoke is dangerous to everyone.
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 Rebecca5
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My grandpa got a little bitty dog about 8 months ago, who lays on his lap all day long. He smokes about 3 packs a day. His little white dog is now mostly yellow, and she wheezes and [censored] all day. :/ It makes me angry that he does that to a DOG. When people do it to their kids.....bah.
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