Relayer
Carpal \'Tunnel
Reged: 03/13/07
Posts: 9506
Loc: Moorglade Mover
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Seems to have a ton of members. Is there a web site?
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GO CUBBIES!!!!
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MRA
member
Reged: 08/15/07
Posts: 175
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There sure is, Relayer.
But, it is by invite only.
A few years ago, the feminazis attacked our free site and because of this, we decided that covert operations would be more beneficial.
Thus far, we have been right.
We are particular and require that you learn the basics as evidenced by most of the posters on this site from F IRM.
What we primarily do is telephone, e-mail and snail mail work that affects all the states with chapters in most of the free world.
SuperEric thought that you would be a good candidate at one time. We stated otherwise. We watched you. SuperEric decided that you have a lot of good qualities and knowledge, but not really what we want in our organization and that is why you have not been invited to join us.
We keep a close eye on most men's rights, father's rights and children rights sites and invite those after a grueling in person interview (after the telephone interview).
We invite everyone to apply to join us. But, it is a grueling process and like other "secret organizations," we no longer take anyone.
Thanks for asking.
For those that think that they are prepared to devote at least 4 hours a week to the cause, will demonstrate when called upon, we ask that you contact SuperEric. Just left click on his name and then left click on his e-mail address.
Fathers' Integrity & Rights Movement
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EOP
journeyman
Reged: 08/23/07
Posts: 73
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I think, before we are inundated with people inquiring that they understand that we are not looking for those that want to pacify and/or compromise.
We are looking for those with strong moral values and believe that both parents are equally required to raise a healthy child.
Please note that we do not add the qualifiers such as if they are "fit" or whatever else the feminazis deem to be appropriate that in reality, reflects what women have done historically and excluding what men have done historically.
All proposed laws and current laws already include that. It's silly to even have the supposition that one needs to stipulate that every time equal shared parenting (ESP) is mentioned.
You need to be so sure of your beliefs, that you will drop whatever you are doing to demonstrate when called upon.
If you don't believe in true equality and this really is not a difficult concept, then we don't want you.
If you feel you need to compromise, then you have already lost footing. When it comes to our children and most of us have daughters, there is no compromise.
When it comes to God given rights as laid out in our constitution and most free world charters or like documents, it is fairly simple to understand that there can be no compromise. There can be no exceptions dictating that gender or special classes of people have more equality than others.
We have tried to have women amongst us. It has been found, just like in the forum called Stepfamily Issues as posted by an obvious woman, youngatheart, that women cause too many problems. Therefore, we are a male only organization, but do appreciate the support by women that respect what we are trying to accomplish.
We also will only take men that recognize the lies that the feminazis have stated in regards to the nebulous, non-existent "patriachy" and blaming men for their own weaknesses instead of doing what women have done throughout history that have governed countries, been doctors, engineers, scientists and etc. by working at their craft as opposed to demanding that they be given special consideration just because of their gender and/or race.
Fathers' Integrity & Rights Movement
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Epitome of Perfection (EOP)
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Relayer
Carpal \'Tunnel
Reged: 03/13/07
Posts: 9506
Loc: Moorglade Mover
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I wasnt asking to join. I just wanted to see it.
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ESP
member
Reged: 08/17/07
Posts: 192
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We know of some very good organizations and would be more than happy to let you know about them. Just tell us what you are looking for (activism, knowledge and etc.) and I am sure that we can lead you in the right direction.
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ESP (Equal Shared Parenting is best over all for the children...)
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PhoenixActivist
member
Reged: 10/30/07
Posts: 140
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He is not interested, ESP.
He only wants to know if we have swastikas, uniforms and shaved heads.
What is really sad is how people want to believe the lies and discard the truth...
Most members of F IRM are college educated, wear business suits and are just fed up with the system as our rights are being destroyed by those that could care less about the family, men and more importantly, the children in order to promote their own filth and hatred.
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gr8Dad
Carpal \'Tunnel
Reged: 06/07/04
Posts: 30199
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...equality in all things, yet prohibits females from joining sort of odd? I mean seriously, you OBVIOUSLY have a right to limit your membership, but wouldn't it be more in line with your manifesto that it be based on belief in the inheirent rightness of the rebuttable presumption of shared parenting? To base one's fitness to be a member on gender makes you just as guilty as the family court, which does the same thing in regards to custody.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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NYDaddy
journeyman
Reged: 10/25/07
Posts: 69
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Your premise certainly sounds reasonable, gr8Dad.
No doubt about that.
In fact, it's the same type of "circular reasoning" that allows women to have all female clubs, but does not allow men to have the same, i.e., all male clubs.
But, you did not read in great depth what was posted. Or, refuse to acknowledge reality.
Women, overall, have different agendas than men. And, those agendas have nothing to do with equality by any sense of the word.
Women, overall, have their own selfish beliefs and more importantly, have demonstrated their deceitfulness when they know they have the advantage as they do in this environment that favors them over men as is the dogma of NOW and other feminazis.
All of us that post on this site and sanctioned by SuperEric to do so, have read "key posts" of the regulars here. And, that includes you.
You speak the walk, but you don't walk the speak.
In fact, we honestly believe that you have been a "countering, but positive" for the feminazis to prove their points that they cannot support with scientific data.
In other words, you have lost all credibility and have shown your true "colors" and they ain't pretty. So much so, that your supposed gender has come into question.
And, yes, we do have the right to promote our beliefs in equal shared parenting (ESP), Men's Rights, Fathers Rights and Childrens Rights.
So, get off the fence and practice what you pretend to believe in or admit what you truly are.
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BeckaLeigh
Carpal \'Tunnel
Reged: 06/08/05
Posts: 6875
Loc: Texas
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Relayer, F IRM was an open site about 4-5 years ago when I was going through my custody battle. Believe it or not, between E ric and gr8dad, I received alot of advice from both that helped me get sole custody and get my kids out of the situation the X had the kids in. F IRM had alot of informative info, from what I remember. I hate to see the way things have become on here, I remember being able to talk to E ric like I talk to you. I dont know what happened with that.
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gr8Dad
Carpal \'Tunnel
Reged: 06/07/04
Posts: 30199
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..."circular reasoning"? It involves repeating a statement in different terms as a supporting statement for a proposed theory or idea.
The supposed "feminazi's" use the dregs of our gender, those who are behind on support and those who simply refuse to pay, and use them to label all of us. By using those that went against F I R M, and banning an entire gender is exactly the same thing. You are guilty of the main charge you make against your primary foe.
On a side note, this debate is interesting, and I would be interested in continuing it in a civil calm manner. Such debate is hindered by repitition of ludicrous charges of being a female and the other charges of gender treason you listed above. Let just stay on the topic, agreed?
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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