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I am sorry, but it's criminal when SS is 5x what CS is:
LOS ANGELES (April 18) - David Hasselhoff has agreed to pay $25,000 a month to support his ex-wife and children. Court documents released Thursday show the former "Baywatch" star's divorce settlement calls for him to pay $21,000 a month to ex-wife Pamela Bach and another $4,000 to support their daughters, 17-year-old Taylor and 15-year-old Hayley.
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I read that this morning. I was curious about the duration. I bet she'll be getting paid long after those kids are 18. Insane.
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[quote]I read that this morning. I was curious about the duration. I bet she'll be getting paid long after those kids are 18. Insane. [/quote]
The support should be flip-flopped, with the kids getting 20K. Hoff actually pays less in CS that I did. You KNOW that mother wont be spending the 20K on the kids.
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I think they set it up this way for tax reasons
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[quote]I think they set it up this way for tax reasons [/quote]
No, that would be unaollocated family support. This is allocated. It's a pure case of greed
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He agreed....it did not go to trial. I am sure he had his own reasons for agreeing to it.
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[quote]He agreed....it did not go to trial. I am sure he had his own reasons for agreeing to it. [/quote]
Ya, it's often a lot cheaper to just agree than fight it out in court with a greedy do nothing lazy [censored].
That money should go to his kids.
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It was a long term marriage in CA. 50/50 split on all assets. He makes more than 2 mil a month just on his royalities over seas. He must have some cash because she reports that he spent over 100,000 a month on just ONE credit card.
But, I do think she is getting greedy..."Bach is asking the judge to increase child support to $31,546 a month. Bach is also asking to increase her spousal support to $45,463 a month."
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[quote]He agreed....it did not go to trial. I am sure he had his own reasons for agreeing to it. [/quote]
Yeah...because he would have spent as much in legal fees as he'll pay out in a year. I see it as kind of a plea bargain - less money for an immediate agreement.
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[quote]It was a long term marriage in CA. 50/50 split on all assets. He makes more than 2 mil a month just on his royalities over seas. He must have some cash because she reports that he spent over 100,000 a month on just ONE credit card.
But, I do think she is getting greedy..."Bach is asking the judge to increase child support to $31,546 a month. Bach is also asking to increase her spousal support to $45,463 a month." [/quote]
I have no idea what his income is but if it's that much, the CS would still be low in my opinion and the SS WAY too high..(of course)
It just bothers me paying more in SS than CS.
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What do you not get???? CA has an income "cap" of 300,000 I think. He writes off his SS and she pays taxes on it. He agreed!!!! Who are we to judge HIS decision. 21,000 is nothing when one makes a couple million a month. PLUS his/their future earning are ALL their income on Baywatch! She was co-owner of the show. She gave her partnership up to him!
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big eye roll
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Was he drunk when he made that agreement?
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whats the "eye roll" for? The fact they were married before he was a star and THEY owned Baywatch together and she sold her "share" to him for 21,000 a month in SS until one dies or she remarries? They owned a company TOGETHER! If it were me...I would have just kept on taking 1/2 of the royalities and forgive SS. I think she made a bad deal.
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It's ok. He got rid of an old hag, and can now focus his energy on banging hotter younger women.
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actually she got rid of him
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He's the one who filed the divorce papers.
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My take is since the children are close to 18, which means the CS will most likely stop in a couple years, that is why she wants more SS than CS. Just a guess.
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The guy has more than 100 million dollars. He AGREED to 250,000 a year in SS if she gave up her interest in Baywatch. I bet the guy is crying tonight!
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[quote]Was he drunk when he made that agreement? [/quote]
As Whimpy from Popeye used to say "For a humburger today, I'd gladly pay you every other Tuesday"
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[quote]The guy has more than 100 million dollars. He AGREED to 250,000 a year in SS if she gave up her interest in Baywatch. I bet the guy is crying tonight! [/quote]
The Baywatch cash cow is way past it's prime. He was already a "major star" before he met her, via Knight Rider and Baywatch started around the same time they got married. She was a 3rd rate actress when he met her and had VERY little to do with his success. It's not like she was the brains of the outfit or anything.
Though I must admit Heather Mills is worse..
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Eh, they're golddiggers who would be doing B rate p0rn on Cinemax without the husbands
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you are once again out of the loop....Batwatch,while dried up and pruned in the USA, is HUGE and gaining strength abroad!
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"She was a 3rd rate actress when he met her and had VERY little to do with his success. It's not like she was the brains of the outfit or anything."
Maybe true...but she still owned the company at 50%. What don't you get about that?
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A partner in my former [censored] is paying a similar amount, but it was a long term marriage.
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This is why men who make big $$$ should just rotate girlfriends. No poosay is worth paying 21k a month.
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There is a nice shelter if you are a native american and a registered member of the tribe. The Shakopee Sioux have a casino and all registered members recieve about 1.1 million a year as their share of those proceeds. (There are other tribes that have casino but apply their funds differently). The tribes also have their own courts. I have appeared in those courts and, as part of their system, spousal support from the per diem funds is extremely unlikely. As a result, if the spouse is a non-inidan, that party moves off the reservation and recieves very little. The land on which the house sits is owned by the tribe and, as a result, there is no equity to divide. Child suport is set based on the tribal statutes which reflect identically the state statutes.
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does your wife know what a pig you are and what your thoughts on marriage are? I bet not! You are enjoying the life you have because of HER income. Granted, you got a big inhertance a few years ago from your father. Had it not been for that, you would be at your wife's mercy. You are a pig. Why not let her in on your "marriage rules" and see how fast your ass hits the curb?
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"This is why men who make big $$$ should just rotate girlfriends"
I guess that explains why you have stayed married for so long!
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I got a big inheritance? Tell me, how much did I get? I would be at my wife's mercy if not for her income? Yeah, so using that theory would you be at your husband's mercy because he earns 3x as much as you, and you're just a lowly teacher? Nice try there jerky, but your logic is about as successful as your ability to collect on CS all those years.
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Does this ring a bell you numb nut?
http://www.taxalmanac.org/index.php/Discussion:Inheritance_tax_
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"I probably need to go to talk to an accountant today before I fly up to Toronto for the funeral," You couldn't even wait until your father was burried before your dirty claws got itchie!
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"Yeah, so using that theory would you be at your husband's mercy because he earns 3x as much as you, and you're just a lowly teacher?"
BTW, try and keep up! You already "claimed" to know my H's flight schedule (that in itself was very scary) but what you missed is the simple fact that we don't combine money....snicker...idiot!
Your statement "lowly teacher?" Well I guess that speaks huge about you!
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[quote]Does this ring a bell you numb nut?
http://www.taxalmanac.org/index.php/Discussion:Inheritance_tax_
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"I probably need to go to talk to an accountant today before I fly up to Toronto for the funeral," You couldn't even wait until your father was burried before your dirty claws got itchie! [/quote]
See your ethnocentrism shines right through. Maybe if you actually understood that natives don't follow the same funeral rites as "whites" do, you'd know that for many Micmac's, funerals aren't until 6 weeks after the person has died, and been embalmed. So, once again, nice try jessica fletcher, but learn how people's culture works before you presume that we all adhere to your way of doing things.
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Well don't act stupid...What money? How much did I get???? Idiot
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"whites" Now who is the stupid one?
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I believe different "whites" may all have different funeral rituals depending on belief and religion. So lumping it into the term "whites" is really misplaced. I believe those of the Jewish persuasion have funeral proceedings immediately. Catholics, usually within a week. I am not sure about others.
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My grandmother's family does not embalm, but immediately cremates.
My husband's family typically waits 2+ weeks, but not for any cultural or religious reasons.
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"for many Micmac's, funerals aren't until 6 weeks after the person has died, and been embalmed."
Is that true????? WOW, that goes totally against the Micmac tradition....Weird.....6 weeks and then get embalmed.
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Not sure if goes against MicMac traadition. I found few results. However, most indicate that they use Christian burial traditions and that they favor cremation. Most states and provinces also have laws limiting how long after death a person must be buried. Usually it is two to three weeks.
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I'm not so sure that the 6 weeks and embalming were in any particular order. That being said....let me add....who gives a crap.
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you are correct! Who gives a crap? But, I am sick and tired to hear Spinner spew his self made millions at a young age, when clearly that isn't the case! He claims his money came from his swift and timely market deal....like we all were to so stupid to catch that bus. Now we find out he got his million from his dead father! My brain is having a hard time understanding why Spinner tried to make himself out to be a "self made man" when he knew that wasn't true~ He is a small "penis" in the huge sea. He has some 1 million off his father death (worried about his TAX before the man was in the ground) and proudly posts that his wife earns more yearly so he can reap SS, if need be. Lets review....Spinner, according to his "rules" married up to get SS when her "P ussy" got old. He was a stay at home step fathere while his wife worked more than 90% out of the home. While he was the primary "parent", the SD got hooked to all sorts of drugs, including heron! Yet he thinks he need a pat on the back for being Step Father of the year???
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Note to self , Katie hates both Gr8 and Spinner .
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Why would one being true make the other untrue? I made a ton of money at a very young age. If my dad died, I would get more money.
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Naw...Gr8dad and I are lovers off line!
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because Spinner acted "shocked" that he had ever got a single cent from his father. He is a liar and a pig!
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I assume you mean "heroine." Did I miss that post?
And...it's icky to edit such a huge content after people have replied.
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you are correct. When Spinner was the step father in charge of SD she was doing heroine. He claims everyday to have raised her......that worked out nice~
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[quote]you are once again out of the loop....Batwatch,while dried up and pruned in the USA, is HUGE and gaining strength abroad! [/quote]
LOL..I guess being "in the loop" in regards to Baywatch is something to aspire to..
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Well, I guess Hoff's wife SS should actually be classified as CS because she clearly is not capapble of taking care of herself and relies on an adult to pay her way.
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[quote]This is why men who make big $$$ should just rotate girlfriends. No poosay is worth paying 21k a month. [/quote]
I agree about the 21K a month. Disagree on the rotating. It's just better to find woman who can take care of herself (something I am not very good at).
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I lived in Germany and let me tell you, Hof is a GOD over there. He is really worshipped, just like Tom Jones (Sex Bomb) and that Boris <insert last name> (the tennis player). Hof has many albums over there, posters, and don't forget he sang when the wall came down. He is also a host of "America's Got Talent", which ironically employs two other foreigners as judges.
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I am confused. What are talking about here? Is someone using heroin (C21 H23 NO5) or is someone a "heroine"?
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[quote]you are correct! Who gives a crap? But, I am sick and tired to hear Spinner spew his self made millions at a young age, when clearly that isn't the case! He claims his money came from his swift and timely market deal....like we all were to so stupid to catch that bus. Now we find out he got his million from his dead father! My brain is having a hard time understanding why Spinner tried to make himself out to be a "self made man" when he knew that wasn't true~ He is a small "penis" in the huge sea. He has some 1 million off his father death (worried about his TAX before the man was in the ground) and proudly posts that his wife earns more yearly so he can reap SS, if need be. Lets review....Spinner, according to his "rules" married up to get SS when her "P ussy" got old. He was a stay at home step fathere while his wife worked more than 90% out of the home. While he was the primary "parent", the SD got hooked to all sorts of drugs, including heron! Yet he thinks he need a pat on the back for being Step Father of the year??? [/quote]
It's not all that different from what a lot of women write here on this forum. Only I think most of Spinners in tounge in cheek where the others are quite serious.
And how do you know he DIDN'T make a ton of dough at a young age? A lot of people do. I myself was in to six figures well before 30 and I came from a broken home, a horrible living environnment and no help from parents or a spouse. It DOES happen.
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I did not see anything on that link. What am I missing?
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[quote]you are correct. When Spinner was the step father in charge of SD she was doing heroine. He claims everyday to have raised her......that worked out nice~ [/quote]
Ahh so now my SD did heroin. Once again the fountain of misinformation speaks. Let's go back to the thread where I discussed my SD's problems at age 14 shall we.
http://www.divorcesource.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=stepfamily&Number=180974&Searchpage=1&Main=180823&Words=drinking+spinnerdegrassi&topic=&Search=true#Post180974
Funny, I never knew dropping acid had become an IV drug condition? Yet it's also interesting as you move through that thread that I accepted my role in her not being watched enough during her 50% time with us. Now I can't account for how much effort her father put in during those days with him, but I'm sure he can shoulder a portion of the result.
Yet here my SD is now, turning 18 next month and graduating HS in a few weeks. She's heading off to KU for summer session in June. Oh yeah, and she actually works, as she has the past 2.5 years. Yet all we get from you the past few weeks is you bemoaning how big a loser your daughter has become. How she sits around and doesn't work, sleeps in, hangs with the wrong crowd, and is going downhill and is messing up her future. But I guess since you're the supposed only parent in her life, all that's your fault right? No one else to blame for your daughter morphing into a loser as she finished HS huh? Learn to be introspective to your parenting failures Katie, and accept your role in what your daughter has become. I accepted my role in what my SD was, and has become. Funny how each child is going in the opposite direction.
BTW, you called me a liar and a pig. Well since you seem to want to claim that my SD was heroin user, I'll call you on on that same qualification.
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Have you *looked* at him lately? Hotter younger women likely go ewwwwwwwwww at the thought of banging him.
..unless of course he has a Gold Amex with the chicks name on it plastered to his forehead during the act and her IQ is less than 20.
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I bet a lot of hot, young Euro chicks would do him :) My old co worker (In Germany) said she would only marry someone who looked and sounded like him. She had his photos plastered all over his walls. Hilarious.
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Yea well, people who drink their beer warm and put sugar (?) on their popcorn aren't wrapped right anyways. ;o)
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Bahahahahaha. Maybe she did smoke a heroine.....LOL.
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He corrected you, so what you said was WRONG. I think we are all waiting for your apology.
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What part??? His SD's drug of choice or the fact that he played dumb about his "self made" millions? He made the challenge... "what money?????" Well, it isn't his millions, it was his fathers millions, blah blah blah!
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[quote]I agree about the 21K a month. Disagree on the rotating. It's just better to find woman who can take care of herself (something I am not very good at). [/quote]
Hey we have a similarity! Except mine is in finding MEN who can take care of themselves, lol.
On the whole "Hoff" issue... if the woman co-owned the damn program, she's entitled to her share of it. And I don't think she was a TOTAL nobody.. wasn't she a swimsuit model or something?
As for the whole Germany thing.. wellll.. my only experience with that is living in a hotel for 6 months where the only 2 other English speaking souls were two German guys. All I know is it was all p-o-r-n on the German channel, ALLLLLL the time. And from what I saw? At least from the male perspective? They weren't overly discriminating in terms of what was considered "sexy". Maybe a matter of taste (no pun intended) but I wouldn't (if I were a guy) fvck any of the woman they had on their tv's if I borrowed someone else's dyck and put a whole pack of trojans over it first. NASTY!!!
Between the "all boobs all the time" German channel and the "all boobs encased in skin tight really really REALLY sparkling evening gowns" game shows on Italian tv, I really lived for my 2 hours a day of British CNN :)
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[quote]What part??? His SD's drug of choice or the fact
that he played dumb about his "self made" millions? He made the challenge... "what money?????" Well, it isn't his millions, it was his fathers millions, blah blah blah! [/quote]
I played dumb?
http://www.divorcesource.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=financial&Number=162951&Searchpage=1&Main=162951&Words=inheritance+spinnerdegrassi&topic=&Search=true#Post162951
Seems to me I acknowledge an inheritance from the start. I've always kept that as a separate account in my name only that sits outside of the retirement income that my wife and I have.
You think that the money WE (you know a foreign concept to a person like you who keeps money separate and doesn't even maintain the same residence as her husband) generated through 401k's, IRA's and investments over the years of our marriage prior to my father's death doesn't exist? Well maybe if we followed the Mr Katiefedup plan of financial idiocy of paying out years of alimony for a trade off of current assets we'd be in that position. But unlike the financial retardedness of your husband, we chose to use common sense when it came to our finances over the years.
Now where you got the idea of self made millions, I'd like to know since in this thread with Susan, I said I could generate 35-40k a year conservatively off OUR retirement accounts annually. Now how that principal total becomes self made millions, I'd like to know, since it doesn't total a million.
http://www.divorcesource.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=stepfamily&Number=315908&Searchpage=1&Main=315855&Words=generate+spinnerdegrassi&topic=&Search=true#Post315908
Now using simple math, even if I took my inheritance and figured that portion conservatively, it would be double that in income generated each year.
I know you have trouble getting through your peroxide soaked head the difference between "inherited funds" and "retirement funds", but try to follow along.
Now, as far drugs go, it's interesting considering your own daughter smokes up. Once again, nice job of parenting there. Want a pat on the back for what your daughter has become? Maybe you two can go smoke a doobie together and figure out some basic math, and plan out her future of working at the local Mcdonalds. Oh but make sure to buy her a bicycle, since at the rate she's going, she won't be driving till she's on her 3rd marriage. Nice job on raising her to what she's become.
I gotta feel for your ex husband. Having to be married to you, it's a wonder he didn't commit suicide.
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[quote][quote]I agree about the 21K a month. Disagree on the rotating. It's just better to find woman who can take care of herself (something I am not very good at). [/quote]
Hey we have a similarity! Except mine is in finding MEN who can take care of themselves, lol.
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The problem is they "appear" to be able to take care of themsevles initially and then by the time it ends, they somehow become feebile and infantile and unable to work...hehe
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...you said that his daughter was using heroin. He has PROVEN tht he did NOT say that. So, any way you look at it, you were wrong. Therefore, you owe him an apology.
Whether you LIKE it or not is moot. You were wrong, and when we are wrong, we have a responsibility to AT LEAST apologize for misreading or misunderstanding. Someone of your advanced age should know that.
You owe him an apology, and you damn well know it.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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[quote]...you said that his daughter was using heroin. He has PROVEN tht he did NOT say that. So, any way you look at it, you were wrong. Therefore, you owe him an apology.
Whether you LIKE it or not is moot. You were wrong, and when we are wrong, we have a responsibility to AT LEAST apologize for misreading or misunderstanding. Someone of your advanced age should know that.
You owe him an apology, and you damn well know it. [/quote]
LOL..I think Spinner can pretty much forget that...
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Why is it that EVERYONE on this board is expected to act a certain way, yet KATIE gets a pass when she gets her tits twisted and makes crap up? Why do we ALLOW her to continue to act like a complete and total b!tch, and when we KNOW that an apology is what is right, she doesn't have to because she is just like that?
She owes MANY people on here an apology for different things, yet she simply will not do it. I have apologized, you have apologizes, others have apologized, yet I have NEVER seen her apologize for ANYTHING.
Time to stop letting her get away with it.
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[quote]Why is it that EVERYONE on this board is expected to act a certain way, yet KATIE gets a pass when she gets her tits twisted and makes crap up? Why do we ALLOW her to continue to act like a complete and total b!tch, and when we KNOW that an apology is what is right, she doesn't have to because she is just like that?
She owes MANY people on here an apology for different things, yet she simply will not do it. I have apologized, you have apologizes, others have apologized, yet I have NEVER seen her apologize for ANYTHING.
Time to stop letting her get away with it. [/quote]
She's an a-hole and not much you can do about it really..
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"Well maybe if we followed the Mr Katiefedup plan of financial idiocy of paying out years of alimony for a trade off of current assets we'd be in that position. But unlike the financial retardedness of your husband, we chose to use common sense when it came to our finances over the years."
Ummmmm?? What????? Unlike YOU, I am not over on the SS board complaing about his obligation. But, since you know his work schedule far in advance before he does (in itself extremely scary and ISP's are easily detected) then you probably have first hand knowledge of his $$$. As far has my husband and I living in two different places....come back to earth. That work related issue has been long since been over. You have the nerve to call my husband and I "retards" because we keep seperate accounts, when YOU just posted that you keep your father's money in YOUR NAME ONLY~ LOL LOL Oh BTW my daughter has been driving for about a month now and LOVES her knew 09 Jetta. I guess your prediction about my daughter was about 6 years off! She also start summer school at UCLA in a few weeks before she transfer to FIDM in Aug. Hey thanks for wondering~
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"She owes MANY people on here an apology for different things.."
Who, please be very specific! So Spinner's SD wasn't doing H, instead was doing LSD, while he was in charge. Personally, I think the two are equally as bad. My bad and I am sorry for confusing the two. Happy? Public apology!
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You have the Fvcking nerve to call my husband and I retards because we don't have a real marriage SINCE we don't share money????? Oh by the way you were wrong, we do live together idiot!!!! Here is a reminder how "retard" you are for not sharing money.....in your words~
"My question is, aside from the interest generated which will probably be taken sporadically when needed (meaning even if say I generated 20k a year, I was only pulling out a portion of that)should I ever split with my wife, I'm guessing that the principal itself originally placed in the account, along with the interest that has never been removed should theoretically be seen as separate property right? Only the interest withdrawn (should there be any left over in other accounts) would be considered marital right?"
Now, after reading that post and the "Spinner Rules of Marriage" you are a disgrace!
Now, Mr. Money Know it All..... Say you were married for a few years. In that time you took possession of a few beach homes, a boat and built up your retirement in California. Would you not settle on SS for 10 years or would you dump your martial "property?" Now who is the "retard?" My "retard" husband will spend about $84,000 in SS and keep all of his homes and toys. IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!
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