gr8Dad
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I am SICK of you. I remained VERY calm and VERY cool below as I was called names and repeatedly attacked for the mere IDEA that men and women should be treatd the same. You stepped over the line when you called my CHILD a BASTARD. How DARE you?!?
Now, I am going to explain this ONE MORE TIME, because I want it CLEAR how I feel.
Adoption is NOT a bad thing. But one CANNOT criticize MEN who walk away from their children, then expect or refer to THEIR walking away from THEIR children as some noble FVCKING ACT.
THAT is what I said. That is what I meant, but your ignorant ass refuses to SEE that, because it doesn't fit into your profile of me as a woman hater. Sorry, I am NOT a woman hater.
As for calling my child a BASTARD, at first, I was really pissed, but now tht i have written this, I see that she is a sweet and innocent child, born into circumstances beyond her control. The real bastard is YOU, someone who CLAIMS to be in the best interest of the children, but is not above using those same children as weapons when it suits you. She, my daughter, has MORE class than you will EVER have, especially after the turmoil over the PERCIEVED insult against YOUR child.
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Loretta
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I do not have a dog in this fight but I do want to say that a woman who places her newborn child up for adoption is in no way in the same class as either a man or a woman walking away from a child they are responsible for raising. I do agree with you, however that, in *most* cases, the father should have the opportunity to raise the child if the mother doesn't want to...and vise virsa...equal rights.
An innocent child should in no way be refered to as a bastard, the term used in refering to a child has long been outdated and deemed politically incorrect. As you said...a person using the term in reference to a child is the real bastard...
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greeneyes
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When you refer to men who walk away - what circumstances are you referring to? Are you referring to any man who walks away from a child for any reason?
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Miranda
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If you are sick of Katie then why are you posting yet another thread that will turn into a 167 PAGE battle royal between the same 4 people WHO OVER USE CAP LOCKS? Seriously!!
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preemiemom
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Evidently that's the definition... which he assumes is EVERYONE'S definition because it's HIS definition.
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gr8Dad
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...who gets scared that he is not in a position to care for a child and walks away.
Of course, I am NOT talking about a father of three who runs off after 10 years of marriage.
-------------------- Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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preemiemom
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If I could figure out how to use bold, I wouldn't use caps locks. Sorry, when one speaks in person, there's a way to emphasis words in speech that one can't in writing. But I promise I won't use capitalization any more if it'll make you happy :)
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gr8Dad
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...that since she called MY child, born out of wedlock, a bastard, she called YOUR child the SAME thing? Still wanna defend her?
-------------------- Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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preemiemom
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Ohhhhhhh.... I see.. so why can't that be other people's definition as well? Particularly when they tell you that's their definition??????
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greeneyes
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A guy who gets scared and walks away is abandoning the child, not even caring about who is going to raise his child.
The woman who places a child for adoption wants a better life for the child and, often, will choose the adoptive parents because she cares about who is going to raise the child.
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