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Need an opinion
      #413849 - 06/15/08 10:53 PM

SD16 has been high since she got out, practically. Wednesday night she was home, Thursday she went out and got drugs and has been high since. She did not come home at all last night...showed up at her Mom's today and is finally asleep.

Yesterday, I got up really early as I heard her talking...and as I figured, she was talking to herself. I got up at six...I had heard her for quite a while before that. She continued to talk non stop all day...and went out. Could it be pshycosis? schitzofrenia?

She showed Mom that she has both crack and meth on her. She says she is selling the crack, doing the meth.

Do we call the police and tell them she is dealing? Do we wait until she gets caught on her own? Do we call them and have her arrested in the house or do we call them and just inform them so they arrest her on the street?

She has a court hearing on the 26th for her breeches.

Taking all the variables in this situation into account, what would you do?

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Re: Need an opinion [Re: Spring]
      #413853 - 06/15/08 11:00 PM

I would call the PO and inform her of the breech. Your SD knew the rules, agreed to the rules, and has now broken them. Before she harms herself, or you, her father, her sister, or some other innocent bystander she needs to be back in jail. She appears to do better when she is in jail and in a controlled environment and required to be on medication; I would send her back there.

Is there any reason, not involving your feelings, that is a logical reason to NOT send her back?

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You kick her out and call the police.. [Re: Spring]
      #413854 - 06/15/08 11:00 PM

...it is tough love, but she has been there for less than 48 hours, and is already back on drugs.

Would i do the same, unfortunately, yes, I would. You gaveher a chance, and she showed that she has no interest in helping herself at all.

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Re: Need an opinion [Re: Spring]
      #413857 - 06/15/08 11:03 PM

I would call the cops over her dealing and getting high. I'd do it every time until somebody listens. I would hate for her or someone she dealt to to be high and do something like what happened to your cousin. I think you have a responsibility to the community, your family and to her to turn her in. She needs to be off the streets before someone gets seriously hurt. Let it be on the cops shoulders if they don't want to listen.

She definately sounds schizophrenic or something equally as disturbing....


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Re: Need an opinion [Re: Spring]
      #413858 - 06/15/08 11:03 PM

Spring-

You really need to get her out of your home and away from you. She is going to either a) learn things the hard way or b) die.

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Re: Need an opinion [Re: Spring]
      #413863 - 06/15/08 11:06 PM

If I thought someone in my home had drugs, I would look for them right now. If I found them, I would call the police immediately. You absolutely cannot do anything that jeopardizes the rules you have always stood f!rm on. You cannot cut her any slack. Ever.

Yes, I think she suffers from a serious mental health illness. I believe, wholeheartedly, that the drug use is a symptom....not the cause.


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Re: Need an opinion [Re: javajunkiee]
      #413864 - 06/15/08 11:06 PM

"Is there any reason, not involving your feelings, that is a logical reason to NOT send her back?"

My only thought on that is that she doesn't respond to consequences so I wonder if it does more damage than good. I feel like we are running out of time to help her and I am not at all sure that jail helps her. Still(I'm walking thru my thought process) her being out here doesn't seem to help her either.

Today, we have been leaning towards trying to get an arrest again. The PO suggested Friday that we should leave her for a while longer and maybe she will hit her rock bottom. BOTH options have their merrits...just a very, very tough choice.

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Re: You kick her out and call the police.. [Re: gr8Dad]
      #413867 - 06/15/08 11:08 PM

I agree...she has no interest in helping herself, and she also doesn't seem to believe she has a problem. She isn't anywhere close to getting help for herself.

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Re: Need an opinion [Re: Spring]
      #413869 - 06/15/08 11:09 PM

If she were only a drug addict, I would agree with her PO. One who hits rock bottom might learn from her mistakes, and make different choices next time. She's not only a drug addict. Her mental health issues prevent that learning process from occurring.

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She needs to learn... [Re: Spring]
      #413871 - 06/15/08 11:12 PM

"My only thought on that is that she doesn't respond to consequences so I wonder if it does more damage than good."

We all HAVE to respond to consequences. If she DOESN'T, and does't LEARN, she will NEVER function in society. Actions and consequences are how society keeps from tearing apart.

What you have to ask is what will happen if you DON'T call the police. She will elarn that YOUR home has no consequences, and she will get worse.

It sounds cold, but she KNOWS consequences enough to con her way into your house. She knows if she give X guy/girl money, he/she gives her drugs. she knows if she TAKES those drugs, she gets a specific feeling. She just doesn't LIKE the consequences of NOT doing drugs.

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