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Well, when your household... [Re: 1966Gal]
      #421593 - 06/30/08 08:42 AM

...is set up on a specific income, and one person takes HALF of that income AWAY, leaving you with all of the bills, you really shouldn't have to DO that.

And I will be honest, I am not surprised in the LEAST that you equate love with MONEY. You are a mentally ill person, and should seek counseling. EVERYTHING in regards to relationships in your life comes down to MONEY. How much is your kids Dad going to contribute, how much can you get out of him, how much do you have to PAY for smething, how much something is "worth", how much RAY has to PAY, how much your going to LOSE monetarily.

You are a sad person, and I pity you in that you don't know how to objectively view something from a NON money standpoint.

It is really sad, but again, not my problem.

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Re: Any suggestions as to WHY... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #421595 - 06/30/08 08:43 AM

Gr8dad, remember how you always say if a women collects alimony, she should still go over and "service" her ex.

Well, if you still want your rules to apply to your stepkids, you should still support them!

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If they were MY rules... [Re: 1966Gal]
      #421601 - 06/30/08 08:46 AM

...I would agree, but they were OUR rules, agreed upon by US, with HER having most of the input. What is really bothering me is that those "rules" gave her oldest all the advantages, limited what MY kids could do, per the age restrictions, but now allow HER kids to do the things that were forbidden when "we" had the house rules.

I was TAKEN. Ripped off, conned for lack of a better word, and while I could care less what you think, I am entitled to feel a little betrayed.

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Re: If they were MY rules... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #421602 - 06/30/08 08:49 AM

All emotional issues aside, I would be completely opposed to ANY peircings/tatoos until 18.

That's messed up.

Spinner's right. Your Ex will be a grandmother soon. Sad, really...

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Re: Well, when your household... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #421625 - 06/30/08 09:16 AM

Well, Gr8dad, if you don't equate love with money, surely you'd be gladly paying CS for those kids. Afterall, you LOVE them, right? So you should have no problem supporting them. If you arne't all about the money, why aren't you still finacially supporting these kids you love so much? I mean, you know your ex is struggling and has less than you right? So, if you AREN'T "all about the money", why aren't you helping support them anymore? Surely you wouldn't withhold support of these kids you LOVE so much just ONLY because you are no longer with their mom, right? Afterall, your love for them has nothing to with her, right? And your desire to support them has nothing to do with her, right? It's only about the kids, not the money, right???

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Nice twist... [Re: 1966Gal]
      #421639 - 06/30/08 09:24 AM

...and it would bother me, but your opinion of me means NOTHING. I support those kids in ways you annot comprhend, and I will not allow you to anger me. A special poster on here did something for me that was not only completely unexpected, but very helpful. My spirits are up, and as usual,you are wrong. I LOVE those children, I do what I can.

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Re: Nice twist... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #421644 - 06/30/08 09:31 AM

That's fine. But you stepped into a parenting role to these kids. You appointed yourself a "rule maker" in their lives in addition of taking on the role of "father" to them.

You said you love them like you loved your own. So...did you stop supporting your own kids when their mother and you divorced? No, you didn't. So why stop supporting these kids just because you are no longer with their mom??? BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY TO YOU. If it wasn't, you'd still be supporting them just as you are supporting your own kids after divorce.

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Re: Any suggestions as to WHY... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #421649 - 06/30/08 09:37 AM

It is bugging you because you love those kids and only want them to make the best of their lives. You and exgr8mom set up those rules and boundaries to to give them that start. Now she has thrown that all out the window to be the cool, fun loving, aka the lazy parent.

Part of me thinks she feels guilty for how things worked out. So in a misguided way she is trying to show the kids, "hey, see how cool I am without gr8dad and his rules. He was the one that (fill in the blank). But, see how much better it is with just me and how much fun and freedom we have".

Sadly there is nothing you can do about it. Other then hope the foundation you set when you were a team took some root and is somewhere in them. Just stand by and be their ear if they need one, offer your opinion if asked and maybe be prepared to help them pick up some pieces if they stumble.

and to Gal, I know I am probably missing some history in your postings. But, what in the heck are you talking about? Makes no sense if you ask me.


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Re: Nice twist... [Re: 1966Gal]
      #421655 - 06/30/08 09:44 AM

are you having an "open mouth" "can't help being an ass day"..??

come back to reality and join the rest of us why don't you...

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Re: Nice twist... [Re: matart1]
      #421661 - 06/30/08 09:59 AM

I'm totally in reality. It bugs the crap out of me to hear Stepparents say how much the love their skids, how much they love them as much as they love their own kids. But when divorce comes, the checkbook snaps shut and all of the sudden "they aren't my kids!" Well, I still love them and I still want my rules to apply to them. I still want them to lvoe and respect me as their father, I still want my ex to enforce my rules in her home....but just don't ask me to cut a check. Then, the same ones say "but it's not about the money", which is utter BS.

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