Melody
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but that's got to be the stupidest child support order I've ever heard of! Like you experienced...things went along smoothly for a while...but then something changed...and there is no longer the acceptance and cooperation. You need a set child support order. What state are you in? and are your incomes very far apart? If the incomes are close, then you likely wouldn't get any support for a 50/50 arrangement with equal incomes. However, if there is a difference in your incomes, a child support amount is likely...not a hugh amount. I'd get that changed immediately and forget about your $4000....he's not going to pay it....and it doesn't appear that your order is very enforceable. All he has to do is say he didn't agree with your expenses or even claim that your order doesn't not warrant any review or correction of expenses. I hope you're not using the same attorney, cuz you got screwed by the one who crafted your orders.
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almostheaven
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You claim how it's always the woman...only as long as you're referring to the CP. Then you claim when the new spouse comes along, it's all about control...but only if it's the woman CP you're referring to. It doesn't dawn on you that if women always want it about control that the second wife is also a woman who may be controlling. That of course can't happen, in your narrow view. Guess it also explains why my dad, who never paid a cent in support, decided to have nothing to do with my brother and I, because his non-controlling second wife did not want to even acknowledge that he had a first family. SHE was his family and she made sure he knew that.
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aussie928
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[quote]...women are MORE likely (per US Census and Dept of Health and Human Services) to kill their spouse. Send me the link to this information and off the dept of human services not quoted by them on a male oriented web site. As to the last half of your statement...this goes both ways. This equality based on the way it is addressed on these web sites is not helping your cause mate. Equality will only happen when you stop looking at male or female and look what and or who is best for the child.
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Eric
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"Equality will only happen when you stop looking at male or female and look what and or who is best for the child."
Do we really want a "few" to tell us this let alone calling it equality?
It takes BOTH parents, as equally as possible to raise a well educated, natured and proper child into an adult. Not just one that may be "more qualified" based upon what the judges are to look at for these "guiding principles" that only reflect what most consider the "mothers role" when in reality, is totally gibberish based upon all the studies to the contrary...
Good luck to those that can see what the feminazi PIGS are trying to do on this board.
For the rest? Open your eyes.
Eric
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Equality is not a difficult concept
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aussie928
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Welcome back mate...glad to see you stopped drooling down your chin and decided to put it here instead. Yes do not listen to the few..listen to only Sir Eric..our own village idiot. Actually, you dont need parents to raise a well rounded well educated person to an adult. You need someone that will love, nurture and guide the child. IN case anyone has noticed there are a great deal of grandparents raising their grandchildren now days...and I dont think they are all going to end up in jail. Again having sex does not make one a great mum or dad, only a parent. Some of these arent any better then sperm and or egg donors for all the good they do in their childrens lives. MY hell, with that comment I am getting a visual...Sir Eric has children, which means someone had sex with the mate... now I am going to chunder.
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aussie928
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Yoou must be very careful when going to some of these web sites mate. If you look at the top you have often been redirected to a promale or profemale site. This information is from www.fbi.gov...and was in PDF format so no redirect.
Murders in the US in 1995
Victims
Percent
of total
Total Murders 21,597 100
Men 16,630 77
Women 3,752 17.4
Children (Source: CPS) 1,215 5.6
Men murdered by girlfriends/wives 3% of 16,630 499 2.31
Women murdered by boyfriends/husbands 26% of 3,752 976 4.52
Source: FBI Uniform Crime Report for 1995
so yes mate...more men are murdered but not by their spouses/girlfriends. From the same site:
---Based on supplemental data received, 77 percent of murder victims in 1995 were males, and 88 percent were persons 18 years or older. By race, 49 percent of victims were black and 48 percent were white.
---Data based on a total of 22,434 murder offenders showed that 91 percent of the assailants were males, and 85 percent were 18 years of age or older. Fifty-three percent of the offenders were black and 45 percent were white.
---Fifty-five percent of murder victims were slain by strangers or persons unknown. Among all female murder victims in 1995, 26 percent were slain by husbands or boyfriends, while 3 percent of the male victims were slain by wives or girlfriends.
IN a study just finished by the FBI for 2003 it states:
Men are more likely to be the offenders in the cases of physical and sexual abuse against children. 3.3 million children each year witness violence by a family member against their mothers or female caregivers
VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIMES IN FAMILY RELATIONSIPS BY GENDER:
Female: 1,041,498 74.82%
Male: 348,267 25.02%
1996-2001 statistics
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almostheaven
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Loc: West Virginia
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm loving it! :grin:
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Onyx
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Loc: Buffalo NY
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You are an idiot
[quote]"Equality will only happen when you stop looking at male or female and look what and or who is best for the child."
Do we really want a "few" to tell us this let alone calling it equality?
It takes BOTH parents, as equally as possible to raise a well educated, natured and proper child into an adult. Not just one that may be "more qualified" based upon what the judges are to look at for these "guiding principles" that only reflect what most consider the "mothers role" when in reality, is totally gibberish based upon all the studies to the contrary...
Good luck to those that can see what the feminazi PIGS are trying to do on this board.
For the rest? Open your eyes.
Eric [/quote]
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almostheaven
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Loc: West Virginia
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idiots. They aren't as bad as Eric. :grin:
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NanV58
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Reged: 06/27/04
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almostheaven,
Thank you for the insight into the women's control issue as it relates to CPS and second wives. You hit the nail on the head as far as the influence of the new wife in parental conflicts.
For anybody who is interested in the original post, some of whom will be glad to hear that I am standing on losing ground in the expense dilemna. After listening to my lawyer's advice for two years on how to handle the financial issues surrounding our wonderful shared legal and physical placement, with no court support ordered due to equal placement and equal salaries, she now tells me today, with court three days away, that I can forget about the money. (Keep in mind that she was not involved with the original court order.) "No judge is going to want to listen to who spent $3.50 on one day and who spent $5.00 another day." I don't consider major purchases such as ongoing clothing, winter needs, sports fees petty expenses but what do I know? Okay, so I forget about the money and the fact that I am, in reality, the primary provider for two boys, operating under the law and agreement that hold us equally responsible.
My question, how do others that have shared physical placement that is suppose to be 50/50 but in reality isn't, with equal pays, manage to support their children in an equitable way? Is there such a way to hold each of us, more accountable? Whether anyone wants to believe it or not, regardless of my sex, if I took advantage of my ex as I am taken advantage of, then I would be surprised if I were not challenged and beckoned to step up to the plate.
Do I just accept this imbalance and continue for the next seven years to provide necessities that the boys need, as well as the majority of extra-curricula expenses and cough it up to life? If that is my only recourse, then so be it.
How about I get a second job so I can provide what the children need and then Dad can have the children most of the time and then I can pay him child support? The way this is going, I wouldn't be surprised if this logic holds up better than my documentation of what has really occurred in the past two years.
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