elliesmom
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You do realize that is technically illegal for you to access that? So I wouldn't go marching in letting on that ou do.
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elliesmom
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This is the exact statement at the bottom of the mypay page as you access it--
18 U.S.C. § 1030 prohibits unauthorized or fraudulent access to government computer systems. If the Social Security Number associated with this action is not your Social Security Number, you are in violation of this law and should exit this system immediately. Completing this action may subject you to a fine of up to $5,000 or double the value of anything obtained via this unauthorized access, plus up to five years imprisonment.
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Redlegg
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That is harsh, they do not even let spouses use it. I was always under the impression a spouse could use it with permission. That is obviously wrong. Learn something new every day.
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elliesmom
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I do access it, but I also have PoA so I don't worry about it. And we are not separated so I can't imagine how I would financially gain anything by peeking into mypay.
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Redlegg
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I am not sure a power of attorney would allow access to a government computer system. It is pretty specific about government computer systems. I do not believe a member can overide the DOD. He can't authorize you access to something he does not own. I know many spouses do it, without POAs. and only on verbal permission, or by the member giving them the p assword. I know I cannot give a POA out to someone to use the commissary or NEX even though I have access to it. Interesting dilemna, I did not realize how strict DOD was on this issue, but they do make it clear, if you are not the SSN holder, you are in violation of the law. I wonder if there is such a thing as POA that allows one to break the law.
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elliesmom
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When you read the PoA - its pretty clear that I can (legally) act on his behalf or conduct business as though I AM him. The only exception being that if I sign his name to a legal document I must indicate that it was done under a PoA, not actually signed by him. So I don't think it circumvents the law in giving me access - it allows me to access as him therefore it isn't contrary to the law. If that at all makes sense.
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Redlegg
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It is definitely in contradiction. You are are not the SSN holder, you are not authorized by the DOD. The statement specifically addresses the SSN issue. It eliminates anyone who is not the member from using it. All the POA's in the world are not going to change what the DOD has explicitly stated are it's access requirements. It is a federal law, their access use cannot be superceded by a POA. Much like a security clearance, they set the access rules. You are right, it does not circumvent the law. The government has limited access to the SSN holder. There are no exceptions listed. I have found nothing anywhere, any policies, and laws that grant exceptions. The exceptions would have to be granted by DOD. The records belong to the government, and they have restricted access. it is very explicit. The criteria and no exceptions. Now I know thousands do it, but there are many situations where a POA does not allow you to act in his stead. I am guessing it is just a CYA type deal. I cannot see where they would actually prosecute someone who has a [censored], I mean, where did they get the [censored] to begin with? I wonder how that would go down, a member tells them someone accessed their information, and then they get asked how did the person get their [censored]??? Are they both in violation??? it is a go nowhere deal, but I really don't think anyone can pick and choose. If anything it is an oversight on the member to allow continued access.
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luann
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IF you are not legally separated, and there is no order that says he should only pay $627.80, call his commanding officer and tell him that you are not making the bills because he is only sending you a small amount. IF you get no relief there, call the attorney general. I am guessing that he is clamining you as spouce on his pay.
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