ChrisEmbry
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Well yesterday my wife sister went to her aunt house to get her mail.And to take photo for her family album.Will yesterday i get a call from her to tell me about the fight she had with liz embry.And how i am going to be blame for sending her over there to do this.I have no idea this was going on and she said that the mother of our 2 kids was calling me a [censored] in front of the kids and all.So somehow the police was called and the cops called me and i ask them what is going to be done about my wife placing her hands on OUR son face.The police Dept stated that she was in her rights to do this.Cause she was protecting her kids.Cause her sister was taken A PIC without her permission.And that THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO CAUSE I WAS NOT THERE AND THAT I AM WASTING THE POLICE TIME.I was then told that the Temp RO is expire and if that she wanted to she can get another one and say that i am using the Police as 3rd party person to harass her and the kids.Which i think it is crock of bull crap.
PLEASE PASS THIS story around PIC OF MY WIFE RUNNING TO HIT HER SISTER WITH OUR SON IN THE BACKGROUND
HER GRABBING MY SON BY THE FACE TO STOP HIS AUNT FROM TAKING A PIC OF HIM
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DeeCan
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If someone was taking a pic of my kid and I didn't want them to, I probably would have reacted the same way.
She WAS well within her rights. As you would have been if the situation had been reversed.
The very fact that you are posting her full name along with photos of, not so much, but a MINOR child WOULD be grounds to get a TRO.
I hope she does...and has it applied to this type of bullshyt too.
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ChrisEmbry
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If someone was taking a pic of my kid and I didn't want them to, I probably would have reacted the same way.
She WAS well within her rights. As you would have been if the situation had been reversed.
The very fact that you are posting her full name along with photos of, not so much, but a MINOR child WOULD be grounds to get a TRO.
I hope she does...and has it applied to this type of bullshyt too.
Now to shot down the stupid reply u gave me.
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If someone was taking a pic of my kid and I didn't want them to,I probably would have reacted the same way.
Well how do u claim to say "My kid".I mean i assume u was well aware of that it takes a man and a woman create your child.I mean last time i look around at children these days.I have not seen a single name tag that says CHRIS KIDS ARE DEE MAN Kids.I mean i was always taught that they are momma and daddy kids.
Were do claim that you as parent can come up with the right to label a child as mine are hers?
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She WAS well within her rights. As you would have been if the situation had been reversed
No I would have never threw a temper tantrum when it come to family member to taking photo's.I mean we all grew up with family members taking photo's.Plus with digital cameras being own by almost every America.I do not see your issue.I mean i would have a issue with some sort of stranger taking pic of OUR kids.Secondly i would ever place my hands on OUR any child face to stop someone from taking a picture .I mean anyone that who is in that position.Can choose different ways to handle the issue.You can stand the way of the person and all.Are u can be adult and let the childish games stop.I mean come on for you to claim that she was well within her right's to pull are even place her hands on OUR kids face and then pull them away from someone taken a pic ofOUR KIDS .To me clearly shows what a person u are.As for your clear agreement for her running with a closed fist to attack a another adult while OUR son is watching is clearly the most stupid move to pull ever as a parent when u are trying to get a divorce and then the person has a camera.I mean as A PARENT we should all be subject to keeping OUR child from seeing violence at that young age.I mean they are going to see it and will have to learn all about it as they grow up.But for a wife to claim that attacking her own sister in What u CLEARLY call self defense. is OK.That Is wrong and no child should be A subject to see that.I mean she is a 27 yr old woman and if she was pissed off cause her sister took a photo.She should have choose a different way to handle it.I mean like many people have told u and told me this old saying.
Resorting 2 Violence DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING
To me your reply clearly Show's the one sided mind of the person u are.And how u are clearly cannot see the openness of the question that i was trying to ask this forum.
Let me ask u a question.
Would u mind if u mom are your sister are any family member came over to take photos of u and your kids.Would u flip out and start cussing and called the other parent.Vulgar are names that a child should not be hearing.So say if She/HE came over and started taking photo of U AND UR EX(NOTICE HOW I ADD THAT IT TAKES @ least 2 parents to make a child) and add them to her family photo album without you flipping out?I mean would u place your hand on your child face to stop a pic being taking of YOUR kids.Are would u choose a different way to stop it?
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The very fact that you are posting her full name along with photos of, not so much, but a MINOR child WOULD be grounds to get a TRO.
I hope she does...and has it applied to this type of bullshyt too.
I mean were do u get posting a pic of them contest to the ground of A TPO being order.Well i assume u lost the whole meaning of what a picture mean.If so i was told that THAT A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.I added the pic to show the horror of the issue that happen and the nature of A PARENT who clearly has anger issue and does not stop and think about her actions before she does them.To me that is a clear case of what u would called a impulsive
Some her is some examples of impulsive behaviors include:
* Going on spending sprees
* Driving recklessly
* Promiscuous sex
* Binge eating
* Yelling, shouting, or screaming at others
* Threatening to harm others
* Destroying property
* Shoplifting
* Getting in physical fights with people
Now i can see u might be a person who could be dealing with someway with this same issue.I mean but then again i have not judge u like u have judge me.My reason for the post was to ask the member of this site about the dangerous position my kids are in and how the police said they she was in her rights to do what she did.Not hear the rantings of a person who clearly is not in touch with the parent inside that we all was born with.
Also if u notice i highlighted the word ours,As a way 2 show u that the my word u use.Is not something i believe in when u have children involved
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Whatever kind of nutjob you say your wife is it doesn't negate the fact that YOU are the one who is now putting your kids in harms way.
NEVER, EVER post the real names of anyone that could be used to track down your children! There are freaks out here that HAVE stalked people before. Real names have been found, homes and families have been found, posters bosses have been found, and all kinds of hell has been visited on not just the poster but their families as well.
You are angry that your wife apparently went off the chain and has harmed your child; how would you feel if some freak followed your links and searched the net and found the home where your kids live?
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ChrisEmbry
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Once again i see no reads the message,All they are focusing on her name.Also what is going to take that the issue is her placing HER hands on OUR SON,And what do u all think of what the cops said.I mean can we as adult once take the time to answer the question and not focus on the damn name
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Who wants to read a post full of typo's and looks like a text message? You are wrong to put people's names and your kids' pictures up on an anon forum board.. plain and simple. What did you hope to accomplish by doing that?
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You'd probably get better responses if came off as a person who can at least type a full sentence that actually makes sense without spelling issues. No one will take you seriously.
Obviously you don't care about your son too much or you'd have taken the warnings seriously that people gave you THE LAST TIME when you posted your wife's full name and address. You've pointedout that people seem focused on that, well maybe that would be because some psycho can now find YOUR SON, you moron!
As for the pictures, they are meaningless. Your x wife doesn't look upset in the picture of her running and your son looks like he's laughing in the background. As for the second one, she isn't grabbing his face she has her hand over it and being that nothing but her hand is in the picture no one can tell what frame of mind she was in. Her sister was pretty close to take that picture so she couldn't have been too scared. I've had pictures like that turn up on my own camera when people are goofing around. You have nothing.
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I did READ what you say the issue is, but that issue to me is MINOR compared to the danger of posting that name on an internet full of freaks. I understand you're pissed at the childs mother, and it sound like you certainly have cause to be, but Back the hell off of ME.
I was under the mistaken impression from your post that you were concerned for your childs safety more than you were interested in punishing your crazy wife, and simply pointed out posting the name is dangerous. Sheesh -
Bottomline is she CAN place her hands on the son you both created unless there is a COURT ORDER stating she can't, AND you are willing to file contempt charges against her for violating that order. Given that she will likely point to the expired RO with tears in her eyes, state that her *intent* was to shield the child, and the fact that the police didn't find her actions abusive, you will get absolutely nowhere.
So be an adult yourself, process what you're being told, and find another avenue to protect your child.
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You're so focused on the "OUR" you can't even complete a freakin' sentence.
You're a control freak. It's very obvious. And now you can't control her. Deal with it!
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ChrisEmbry
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U know for a married woman from McMinnville, Tennessee, USA.You should not be a person who is the one to cast the first stone.
Wow i mean google can find out anything about people these days...
I mean is that true Kim Cantrell,
Kim Cantrell is the publisher of The Mom Trap, a blog dedicated to capturing the moments of motherhood.
She resides with her husband, Brian, and her four children in middle Tennessee.
In addition to writing, Kim enjoys crafting and reading true crime.
Now how can a person such as yourself issue the words that u did.I mean come on.I read your MOM trap blog and all.So were do u have the balls to say control issue in your reply.
Is that cause i CHOOSE two say that me and my ex kids as OUR KIDS.Since it took 2 people to have them and it take 2 to raise them.
But i guess i will stop and read your blog some more and then finish gaggging at the reply u sent
[image]http://z.hubpages.com/u/1204877_177.jpg[/image]
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DeeCan
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Oh goody for you...you can Google.
I must be very special that you took the time to do that.
So when a woman bucks up to you, the way you retaliate is to put personal information online?
Funny thing is this...if I didn't want that stuff known then I wouldn't put it out there.
You've got some very serious issues.
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ChrisEmbry
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So can ask u a ?
Why would u [censored] about my placing photo's of my son online.When u did the exact same thing.The pics of your child sleeping with the cloth thing.And the pics of them doing the driveway.I mean since u are from the south,I would assume that you have heard term.LOOK WHO Is Calling the KETTLE Black.I actually like the blog u have and was quite shock to see the difference of a person u are.But then again that just show how much u are a FRAUD.
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No, dear, I'm not the pot calling the kettle black - you're just dense. You don't get the point and I'm tired of trying to explain it to you. Let's just say that there are appropriate places and appropriate methods and you don't have the couth to understand either one.
And I'm not going to keep having this conversation with you. You're doing your best to intimidate me by using my name and pointing to specifics you've seen at my blog - it' snot working. I put out there what I'm WILLING for people to know.
Go get a life. Seriously. Let go.
I'm done.
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ChrisEmbry
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Yea so it safe to say that u are backtracking,I mean u snap at me for so CALLED placing my child endanger.When u have done the name.I mean like u said there are freaks on the net.I MEAN DID U NOT SAY THAT
I mean I love the couth word.Thanks for trying to belittle someone.It's woman like u who give the WHOLE female gender the title [censored].But i guess when dealing with people like you.Who think that they have such a high degree of sophistication,And i bet you tell yourself that you sleep well at night.
I not trying to intimidate you at all with your personal info,All i am trying to show is that you as a parent is a fraud.What you said to me,And then expect to be not put on point.When u was caught doing the same exact thing.PLACING your kids photo on the net.
Now since you claim that u put what u want out there for your own reason.What if i did the same to get the word out that my son and daughter are getting abuse.One day hoping someone will see what issue's are going on and someone can contact me and help me place a stop to it.So me and her kids can live a normal life and so they can be allow to grow up to have at least have some degree life without so many mental scars from all this
However u did not see it that way and place your 2 cents in and turn the thing into a flaming troll thread.And when caught lying about it.You try to divert the subject to as if i am the one at fault.When both of us are in the wrong.
I mean this forum is suppose to assist people and be there for one and another.But however some people in the website think they are free to flame others.Cause they was asking for help
P.S
I have a life and that life is the one day too see my son and daughter and rebuild the relationship.That there mother has token from them...
Oh also looking forward to reading today post as well
Edited by ChrisEmbry (07/05/09 12:30 PM)
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Don't post pics of your kid. Come on..the whole thing looks very Springer like. Out of respect for your son though, it's really innapropriate.
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ChrisEmbry
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True it make look that way.But the reason for posting the pic.Was 2 show the my separate wife slap OUR son and wanted to ask u all for advice.As i said in my second reply to the post.A PICTURE CAN SPEAK A THOUSAND WORDS
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I am just saying posting a picture of your son really isn't a good thing to do
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ChrisEmbry
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I mean after the last nag for nag fight on her.I was not going too.But i figure if u showed a pic of what i was talking .I would it would help show the point
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I mean after the last nag for nag fight on her.I was not going too.But i figure if u showed a pic of what i was talking .I would it would help show the point
Everyone was getting your point. But showing the little boy being smacked, and the other one (who ever that is) looking like she is going to rush the Offensive line of the Bear at too much. A lot of people post pictures, but they hare of parties, vacations, etc. No one wants to see the lad being hit and a woman charing like a maniac. It could work against you in court.
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ChrisEmbry
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what DO U MEAN IT COULD WORK FOR ME IN COURT.Hell the local police did not even file a report on when i call them.And the CPS will not do [censored] about it at all.
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what DO U MEAN IT COULD WORK FOR ME IN COURT.Hell the local police did not even file a report on when i call them.And the CPS will not do [censored] about it at all.
Posting pitcures of your kid getting smacked around on the internet will NOT help you in court.
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His ex wife looks like she's batshit crazy in that pic.
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I'm curious, I wanna see the pics, but I haven't been able to dowload them. I've never downloaded pics as attachments on this forum, I may be doing something wrong. I keep getting this message when I try.... "Opps! - 404 File Not Found"
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ChrisEmbry
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If u wanna see them.I posted a link to them
POST of the issue with my kids mother slapping the kids
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ChrisEmbry
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How could it work against me in court.I have the pic posted to show people the drama that child like mine are going thru daily.I mean i know some of u all might be scare to post a pic.But i mean i am not worry about it.Cause it pics like these that need to be shown to show AMERICA that mother who are not always the best interest of a child
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ChrisEmbry
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I said the same thing to the cop.But the cop said she was in her right to be doing that cause she was protecting her home
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His ex wife looks like she's batshit crazy in that pic.
If that's not a Springer look I don't know what it is.
Chris, we understand the situation. Seriously. But judges don't like it when the little kid is exposed to public scruity. etc The child image should be taken off. If she walks into court with a printout of that, you are going to get some heat. There are literally thousands of kids and parents in your situation, it's nothing new. That is why kids faces are often blurred in news stories, etc. Court is where you need to fight this battle. Not the internet. But I must admot, your ex does look bat [censored] crazy
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The story about Chris Embry:
Chris Embry is a 30yr man who moved 1000miles away from his kids; from Georgia to Massena NY so he can be unemployed.
Sometimes, he mentions that he should get a job, when he is on Twitter but doesn’t bother to actually do anything about it.
And while he cannot afford to pay child support, he seems to be able to afford lots of alcohol, cigarettes, video games subscriptions (WOW), and Internet access so he can commit virtual harassment on his wife. (Per his Twitter account, screename: Macbloghaus).
http://twitter.com/Macbloghaus
The sad thing is that I think he really does love his kids. I have always been the number one defender of NCPs access to their kids. But Chris Embry is the exception to the rule. He can’t go to Georgia to see his kids because of his CS arrears and other outstanding charges.
He just wants to call now and then. Even that would be better than nothing; but his calls are more about harassing his STBX than any substantive relationship with the kids.
Chris Embry’s STBX is not perfect. None of us are. But she did nothing wrong when she posted photos of her kids on MySpace for access by friends and family only (she has since taken them down). Chris Embry posted pics of his son on the World Wide Net. The Southwest Georgia DA prosecuted a case last year where a father posted pics of his son on the Internet. Looks like there will be a couple more reasons why Chris Embry cannot return to Georgia.
His latest round of harassment has sealed his fate. I have insured that his STBX has copies of the photos that he posted on the net (given that he was so helpful in providing me with her address); along with my affidavit of how those photos ended up in my possession. She can now prove the length that she has to go to; to protect the children from their father.
The best photo is where she is charging at the camera. It shows that she will do anything to protect her kids. His posting them on the internet shows; why she has to protect them. I have found out besides filing harassment charges; she is applying for an ex parte OP for the kids and herself. Violation of an Order of Protection is an extraditable offense. New York will arrest him and ship him back to Georgia.
This guy is so focused on how he has been “wronged”; he is not capable of being a parental figure in these children’s lives.
Am I out to “get” Chris Embry? Absolutely! His actions have crossed the line into criminal. He is not a young man, who doesn’t know any better. He is 30yrs old, he needs to move back to Georgia, accept all punishments for his mistakes, get a job, and be a father to those kids.
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Aside from his CS arrears, (and posting the pics), what has be done wrong that an OP is needed? Does he beat them? Threaten them of bodily harm? If not, and OP will also work against her.
The courts want to see both parent's co-parenting, not using a child as a weapon for whatever.
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Aside from his CS arrears, (and posting the pics), what has be done wrong that an OP is needed? Does he beat them? Threaten them of bodily harm?
My understanding is that Georgia has no tolerance internet stalking regs as well as broad harassment definitions under the DV statutes; she has phone evidence also.
You and I both know the OP will be granted. He will be given an opportunity to come to Georgia and refute it; but given his other outstanding charges and that she is also filing criminal harassment charges, he won't be crossing that state line anytime in the future.
The OP is for him and his agents to cease and desist phone calls; cyberstalking and from taking or posting unauthorized photos.
I believe Georgia has a program that he will be eligible to apply for supervised phone access through Social Services. The calls are monitored.
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ChrisEmbry
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Aside from his CS arrears, (and posting the pics), what has be done wrong that an OP is needed? Does he beat them? Threaten them of bodily harm? If not, and OP will also work against her.
The courts want to see both parent's co-parenting, not using a child as a weapon for whatever.
No i never beat my kids.I have spanked them when they was giving three chance to stop the bad actions
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Wow. You know these people?
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He needs to seriously get a life
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ChrisEmbry
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He needs to seriously get a life
I do have a life.If you mean the fact that i am concern on how a woman can slap our son and when i post a pic of it.People get all bend out of shape.To me posting that pics.Is in the same place as when u see pics like these below
[image]http://www.underourrainbowshoppes.com/DSN/wwwunderourrainboworg/Content/Images/Child_Abuse/image001.jpg[/image]
So how can u people claim i am work for posting when there is no excuse for child abuse
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ChrisEmbry
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Wow. You know these people?
was the mention towards me?
Cause if u was referring to the person who is in contact with my wife knows way too much info.So i assume she is doing the oh poor me [censored] as she has always done.Never willing to take fault for her own doing in the marriage.I mean maybe i should be doing the oh poor me. Maybe I should keep the kids from their mother cause she cannot AFFORD 2 pay her child support,Are maybe i use the check of 1700 from her her taxes to go to American eagle to buy me and my bf clothes there and then by them some clothes.But instead of saying well i have no job and the kids father is not working.Let me go to wal mart to save a little and put the rest back 2 save cause they might need some more thing.But because i want to send a message to my kids mother that my child will not dress in wal mart clothes.(That is what she told me).And have my child thinking that i must have mall clothes is cool.Then i should do that with someone else money
Our how about i choose to not drop a charge so she cannot work,Soi can use that as a leverage to make the kids hate their mother more.Are how would it look if i thought of getting a TPO on her,Cause her sister caught my sister saw her slapping our kids when she was trying to take photos of her niece and nephews. and blame it all on LIZ cause i am trying to make it seem like she sent her over there.When the truth was they she taking photo.So when she got marriage she could give them a photo album as a wedding gift when to their family.Since the are getting married this .Are maybe i should have gotten mad cause she called the cops on me and then i got away with slapping the kids and living in a place were i always cuss the kids father out in front of them and have brainwashed them to call her liz instead of momma.Are the fact that i allow my kids to live in a place with no ac in 100 degree temps.And play the oh poor me [censored] when the cops are called
But i bet some the people who come here.Do not place there self in those shoes cause they are cowards and only choose to see a woman crying the same old poor old sap story of how a woman is crying cause she is not going to be allow to do what she does and not have to worried about what she is doing is wrong 2 her own child
.I mean if this neverend wants to say stuff about me.Well can contact me @ chrisembry@gmail.com .Oh i willing to talk to u.I that is if u have the guts to hear the other side of the story.Cause like my momma and daddy told us as kids.
THERE IS ALWAYS 2 SIDES TO A STORY
So if u see were i am coming from.Then u got the point i was trying to make.But if not all i can say is that i pray for u and pray for my kids
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You are a fricken lunatic.
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You are a fricken lunatic.
I assume then maybe u are one of the ones who cannot look at what it like to place yourself in someone else shoes.All define fricken lunatic.
I mean the definition of a lunatic
is 1 a: affected with lunacy : insane b: designed for the care of insane persons <lunatic asylum>2: wildly foolish <a lunatic idea>
— lunatic noun
So i am a lunatic cause i want to see and speak to my kids.Are am i lunatic cause i will not stop fighting to see them.Cause A WOMAN choose to use them as a pawn.Are could it be cause u are a MAN HATER.Who married some man that cheated on you.But then again i have no clue.But i am proud that he left u,Cause i would have too
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am i lunatic cause i will not stop fighting to see them.
This board is all about ensuring that both parents have access to their children.
But it is hard to watch someone like yourself, self-destruct.
Posting pics on your kids on the internet, harassing your stbx, falling further into arrears on your child support, wallowing in denial of the inappropriateness of your actions.
These are not actions on a sane person. As far as your posts show, you have done nothing positive to move forward toward resolving the situation.
Have you thought that you might be suffering from depression and/or have other psychological problems?
Your community has services. You need to find out what is causing you to continue to make such poor choices before any judge is going to support your pleas.
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ChrisEmbry
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This board is all about ensuring that both parents have access to their children.
But it is hard to watch someone like yourself, self-destruct.
Posting pics on your kids on the internet, harassing your stbx, falling further into arrears on your child support, wallowing in denial of the inappropriateness of your actions.
These are not actions on a sane person. As far as your posts show, you have done nothing positive to move forward toward resolving the situation.
Have you thought that you might be suffering from depression and/or have other psychological problems?
Your community has services. You need to find out what is causing you to continue to make such poor choices before any judge is going to support your pleas.Quote:
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This board is all about ensuring that both parents have access to their children.
Well thanks for clearing that up.I mean it seems like u are the only person here.Who can agree that both child need access to their children
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Posting pics on your kids on the internet, harassing your stbx, falling further into arrears on your child support, wallowing in denial of the inappropriateness of your actions.
Now why do people on here still are not looking at the point of the pic.Encase some of the people hear seem to forgot.I will say it again.I posted the pic to show u all how my son was [censored] SLAP,And how my wife is chasing her own sister with OUR son in the background.Cause she was taking a picture of her nephew.And how it so simple to see that i was asking what advice can u all suggest to get my child away from this monster.
But u all do not and will not ever see it that way.All u all keep seeing is a pic of child on the net.I mean it must be hard to look at your self in the mirror every morning.I bet u all even said I'm a great parent.Then if that is the case how know u all will tell what i need to do to get my son and my little angel out of harms way from their crazy ass mother
Now on too the comment on the harrassing of the stbx.Were in the hell do any of u all have the right to claim i am doing that.I mean i can see if i was calling her house and saying stuff like [censored] HOW COME MY KIDS are not allow to speak to me and if i see u.I'm going to beat ur ass.But i have never said that at all.Hell if u wanna someone being harass.Take a look at what she sends me on myspace after messaging her so i can call and speak to the kids since their birthdays was coming up....
Im tired of youre excuses and delusions of you was this great Daddy for my kids. And i say my kids becouse you never wanted or took responbility for anything in their lives. You expected me to work, cook, clean , teach them things that you could also have donee but refused to becouse as you say its a woman's job and all along you sat and played video games. You wonder why thats all Jonathan is interested in its youre fault .Playing WOW all the time and Xbox.He got it from you . And as for the relationship between me and Matt that doesnt concearn you he still wants to be a part of their lives and im not going to stop him.He actually cares how there doin he calls to talk to him regualy.Theres no reason for you to bother him texting cause as you said he dont live here so leave him alone. So if you want to help them you need to give them some space they havent seen you in over two years what makes you think they want to .All jonathan wants from you in his playstation that you got them for christmas thats all he wants and Natalie which you have yet to spell her name right doesnt want to talk to you at alll how sad is that and its all youre fault.They want to go see Matt if that makes you feel any better.They miss him and they went and visted him.They love him.It doesnt matter if me and matt dont work out he will still be a part of their lives.So just leave us alone we dont want you.
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From: Chris
To: " ELIZABETH"
Date: Jun 12, 2009 4:30 AM
Subject: hey
U know i cannot believe what a person u have become and all.I mean i can understand any hate u have against me.I have admitted to you i was a bad husband.But for u to say
"So you khno9w they meaning Jonathan and Natakie do not wish to speak to you. It is not me keeping you from them they made that choice on there own."
I cannot believe u would stoop to the point were u would use ur own kids against me,Just so u can try to get even with me.And if u honestly think i belive my OUR kids would choose not too talk me cause they choose too.Then u have serious [censored] them up.Cause if the kids fear me then how come the they miss me and was said when they could not come up to see and all.And they did not want to come back to u when i had them,They would cry and say i wanna stay with daddy.
You know liz the one that i worry about the most out of our 2 kids.It is jonathan,He is going to grow up and have anger issue over this and there will be no one to blame but u and me.But telling u this will do no good.Cause like u said after u [censored] up my life.
ALL U SEEM CARE IS ABOUT U.
I mean with me not being there u are suppose to be a prime role model for him.I mean he had trouble in both schools since i have left,He is still having anger issue.I mean from the video of him he is more concern with a pc and all,So it would be safe to assume that all u allow him is too play games.So that way u do not have to deal with it.
And then there is are daughter.She will look up too and wanna be like u.I mean do u honestly think our daughter will see a role model in her future.I mean u cannot find work at all.U expect me to take care of u from a child support check that u would be able to get if u would drop the damn charge so i can work.But u will never do that at all.So u will try to find a man to take care of u and she will grown up too see this as a common thing and she will be just like u
Plus i remember last time u let me speak to them,They was happy to speak to me.You stop letting me speak to them cause our son said UR EX SUGAR DADDY would not let him spend the night with me.And i question u on it and u had a fit cause i said to SO are son is lying and all,And u threaten me that Matt would beat my ass and then u hung up on me and then he call back and did the same.So it funny how u can say that did not wanna speak so shortly after i last talk to them
And ur quote about Kay
"Dont you have a GF to worry about better keep her happy or she may throw you out. "
She and i are doing great and all.She will not kick me out and all.She and i do not worried about u and u comments towards her kid.I mean i can say this she does put her kids first and she has ex that does not want 2 do anything for her kid and she still lets the man see his kid.When he decides to show up and all.So i cannot see were u have the idea to even cross that line.And for u a GROWN ASS Woman 2 bring up a 13 yr old kid in a message.Show 100% proof that u will use a child to gain whatever control u might want
And for u too quote this
"They call Matt daddy they love him and trust him.Matt has never given them a reason to doubt his love for them.Hes never hurt them in any way or given them a reason to fear him"
Then how come he kick u too the curb in Alabama.I mean and he said this too me when i text him asking if u and the kids was OK,Cause i was worried about u and the kids
Here is the text
I got a girl now that works and ant got anykids
Tab. &.matt
Wow liz that sure does sound like such a great father figure for ours kids.I mean if that is what u call a person who cares about kids,Wow no wonder why u and i never work.
You know when u say [censored] like this
"We have a new family with Matt and im not going to let you ruin there lives for the greater good of youre own PRIDE becouse youre biological kids love another man as there dad more than you."
U are not hurting me.U are hurting them in the long road,Cause they will see what it like to know that I've never giving up on them and still fight to see them.I mean u could and i could be divorce and go on about are merry life's and all,And be there for are kids.But no i was more then willing to comprise and even screw my self by letting u have sole custody of the kids and i would have been happy with them every weekend and one day a week.
But no u did not want that.
I mean what is it going to take for u to GROW up and let me speak to OUR Kids.Because of ur recent choices i guess i have to figure out a way to come back to Ga,and deal with it and that way u can make it a draw out battle and the kids will suffer more and more and more.But since u care so much for them.Have u really even thought of that
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falling further into arrears on your child support, wallowing in denial of the inappropriateness of your actions.
Now to answer this bullshit on why CS is so far behind,And the so called wallowing in denial of the inappropriateness of your actions.
well let see CS arrears in behind to the FACT that
" The number of unemployed persons (14.7 million) and the unemployment
rate (9.5 percent) were little changed in June. Since the start of the
recession in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has increas-
ed by 7.2 million, and the unemployment rate has risen by 4.6 percentage
points. (See table A-1.)".
So that might have a reason for me being behind in arrears.Oh but i bet someone in this forum.Will have something to say that it is a excuse and that is why wallowing in denial.But whatever the case may be and all.
Plus i mean i cannot stand for a person/PARENT to bring up CS are arrears in a talk.When i was asking how to get my child to the safe warming arms of their father.Cause out of all the people i have ever spoken too about CS.They use CS support as some sort of leverage to deny access to the children.I mean does any of us as parents.Happen to see a sign are PRICE TAG on them saying'"IF DADDY/MOMMA.IF U WANNA SEE ME.I NEED U 2 PAY DADDY/MOMMA NEEDS TO PAY THEIR CHILD Support".I mean no i never seen one on any kids at all.I mean but then again u have never look at that at all.Have u my good fellow
Now to address how i am wallowing in denial of the inappropriateness of your actions.
I not wallowing in [censored] about all of this.I am upset at the injustice that a MOTHER/WOMAN.Can assume that it's OK to keep OUR very own children from their father.I mean cause I'm upset and pissed off and will not stop to have the right to see my kids.If that make's me wallowing in denial of the inappropriateness of your actions.
Then i am fine with the stereotype label u wanna call it.
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Have you thought that you might be suffering from depression and/or have other psychological problems?
HMMMMMM how to answer this question.Well i guess let me post a study on how not seeing your kids can affect a human person
Relationships with minor children have been shown to have both positive and negative effects on the psychological well-being of divorced persons (Hughes, 1989). These effects are moderated by whether minor children are present in the household. Divorced fathers with absent children often feel guilt, frustration, anxiety, a sense of longing, sadness, and emptiness due to loss of an ongoing relationship with their children (Gerson, 1993; Hughes, 1989; Kruk, 1992). Many non-resident fathers often express that they feel a loss of control over their children�s lives (Feldman, 1990) and in the divorce process (Arendell, 1995; Umberson & Williams, 1993). This loss of control may be manifestated in the withdrawal of fathers from their children�s lives, a negative assessment of relationships with children, psychological distress (Mirowsky & Ross, 1989), and/or a failure to support children economically. On the other hand, fathers with absent children may be relieved of daily caregiving tasks as well as have greater opportunities to develop new relationships (Hughes, 1989).
So if u read above.It quite normal for father to have bouts of depression and many other problems.But then again when was the last time u had to see your son thru a photo and her that your son is being made to call me Chris.Instead of daddy
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Your community has services. You need to find out what is causing you to continue to make such poor choices before any judge is going to support your pleas.
To me the jury is out on that one.I mean i have no clue wear you came up with that.If you do not some much care to explain,I would like to know were u see me as a person.Who is choosing to make such poor choices.And how do u think that cause of my persistent nature to speak 2 my kids is not going to have a judge is not going to support my pleas
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Yes_Dad
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You need to pay the CS regardless of your feeling to the Mom or end up up in jail
Thats being said, if she want in with a printout of the kid getting slapped on4 website you are associated with, ypu will lose. 100%, People her have FAR more experience in this stuff than you and you need to realize this.
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DeeCan
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Well, well, well...look there - Google works both ways.
Chris has been given some good advice. He's not going to listen, because his way is the right way. And everyone should feel sorry for him because she won't let him see his children. While that's not the right thing on her part, he fails to admit that not paying his CS is also the wrong thing to do too.
He also can't comprehend that just because somebody is a relative doesn't give them the right to snap photos of your child. Hell, half of the child molesters out there got their start with a family member - so yeah, let's continue on with that theory.
And the very fact that HER sister contacted him and told him that she wasn't allowed to take a photo speaks volumes to me of why BM reacted the way she did.
It's also getting old how if someone doesn't agree with him it's because their a man hater.
What this guy doesn't get is even us women have experienced situations similar to this. My husband is one of them with a 15 year old he doesn't see.
Do I go posting his story all over my blog, twitter and gawd knows where else? No. Why? Because I don't want my SS someday blaming me for everybody knowing his "business" and dis'ing his mother worldwide.
He'll figure out on his own. AND we don't want to wind up as candidates for the next Jerry Springer episode (and those of you who know my story knows it could make a good one...lol).
Some believe that you shouldn't post pics at all of your children online. Others, like myself, believe that pics of your kids in the right places and in the appropriate situations are fine.
Showing your kids in a volitale situation along with their mother's full name (and now I see his children's names are disclosed as well), address, yadda yadda yadda is NOT the proper time or way.
But he's never going to listen. He'll have to learn the hard way.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
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Yes_Dad
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Quick reply...
Well, well, well...look there - Google works both ways.
Chris has been given some good advice. He's not going to listen, because his way is the right way. And everyone should feel sorry for him because she won't let him see his children. While that's not the right thing on her part, he fails to admit that not paying his CS is also the wrong thing to do too.
---> Not to defend this guy, but CS and visitation are two seperate issues in court. He will be in trobule for not paying and she will be in just as much for witholding visitation. Possibly more.
He also can't comprehend that just because somebody is a relative doesn't give them the right to snap photos of your child.
--> He's their father. He has every single legal right to snap photo's of his children.
Hell, half of the child molesters out there got their start with a family member - so yeah, let's continue on with that theory.
And the very fact that HER sister contacted him and told him that she wasn't allowed to take a photo speaks volumes to me of why BM reacted the way she did.
---> He is allowed to take photo's of his own child. He is actually allowed to post them. The point is the judge will not like it because the child is obviously being used as a weapon by both.
It's also getting old how if someone doesn't agree with him it's because their a man hater.
What this guy doesn't get is even us women have experienced situations similar to this. My husband is one of them with a 15 year old he doesn't see.
Do I go posting his story all over my blog, twitter and gawd knows where else? No. Why? Because I don't want my SS someday blaming me for everybody knowing his "business" and dis'ing his mother worldwide.
---> He is allowed to take pictures. He is allowed to post them. Doing so is stupid beyond belief. The laws are in place to help prevent adults from using children as weapons against each other. It's obvious from both posters they can't stand each other. But that dosen't prevent him from taking photo's of his own son. And then he posted a picture where the mother is slapping the kid and another of her obviously in a rage. None of it is illegal. What is is is just plain stupid if you know how the judicial systems works and ho judges feel about it. They also aren't fond of parents who battle it out in front of the kids.
He'll figure out on his own. AND we don't want to wind up as candidates for the next Jerry Springer episode (and those of you who know my story knows it could make a good one...lol).
Some believe that you shouldn't post pics at all of your children online. Others, like myself, believe that pics of your kids in the right places and in the appropriate situations are fine.
--> If you have the proper security on the various social networks, it's ok. I have posted pictures of my kids. Not getting slapped or anything and numerous people here have with links to the address. The problem is the manner and intent. Although not illegal, definately egregious. No one here except a judge will care to see any of it. But both are in the wrong here, as CS has nothing to do with visitation, which he might want to try to exercise, or at least call the kids. The mother can have an OP taken out, sure...and he can refute it. Whatever. And waste the time of the people who should be issuing OP's for real issues.
Showing your kids in a volitale situation along with their mother's full name (and now I see his children's names are disclosed as well), address, yadda yadda yadda is NOT the proper time or way.
But he's never going to listen. He'll have to learn the hard way.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
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DeeCan
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...He is allowed to take photo's of his own child....
If he had actually snapped the photo, no problem. He's bytch is that BM's SISTER wasn't allowed to. BM was well within HER rights at the time.
When he figures that out, he'll get a lot more sympathy here.
He can even post them, that too is well within his rights. Although posting that TYPE of photo is not appropriate and will hurt him in the long run.
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Yes_Dad
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...He is allowed to take photo's of his own child....
If he had actually snapped the photo, no problem. He's bytch is that BM's SISTER wasn't allowed to. BM was well within HER rights at the time.
---> That's nonsense too. It's the child aunt. When they AREN'T taking pics, it's time to worry.
When he figures that out, he'll get a lot more sympathy here.
He can even post them, that too is well within his rights. Although posting that TYPE of photo is not appropriate and will hurt him in the long run.
---> I agree. It's for the courtroom only (or a mediator)
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DeeCan
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Well, I can tell ya this: DH's exW is technically the aunt of my two youngest and there is NO WAY in hell she has the right to take pics of my kids.
So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
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Yes_Dad
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Well, I can tell ya this: DH's exW is technically the aunt of my two youngest and there is NO WAY in hell she has the right to take pics of my kids.
So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
Sure an aunt does. Anyone can take a picture of anything. Otherwise, TMZ wouldn't exist. There are laws that prohibit certain photo's, like a court room, unless the judge gives permission, but otherwise, any photo, except something like child [censored], is lawful.
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DeeCan
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Ah, you're almost right. As long as there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.
However, with the exception of papparazi, most people will not continue to try to photograph a child when the parents or guardian say no.
But then that goes back to the whole bit of HER sister trying to take the photo obviously for HIM - gotta love the family dynamics.
Being in a similar one, oh hell yeah it's piss me off!
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herrinil
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Well, Chris all I can say if it was reversed things would be different. Could you imagine if it were you who put your hands on a child? You'd be having supervised visits if you were lucky. Unfortunately the police and judges value dads very little. My child'smom tried to have someone kill our child when she was infant. A witness testified to it and there was evidence but the Judge gave her everything she requested at custody trial. I've never had a traffic ticket, never been in trouble, and always consider myself a great dad but the judge took the easy way out and gave the mother everything she requested. It is a sad system in IL. The mother also was arrested for dui tice in 3 years while custody case was going on. If it would have been me I probably would have had to have supervised visits but it was mom and not dad who had dui. Judges in IL can interpet laws one way one day then turn around and interpet them another way the next day.
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javajunkiee
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Nice response, but ck the date on the thread. The OP isn't around to read it.
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