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Re: I wonder where the "Stop hatin'" was at... [Re: Redlegg]
      #596913 - 11/08/09 10:19 AM

If that's the case then, the US army isn't very good about figuring out which of its soldiers are about to go postal. The higher levels screwed up and they can take the blame for letting those soldiers die based on their lack of proactive approach to dealing with this guy effectively, just like it's Gny Sgt Hartman's fault that Pvt Pyle went psycho in Full Metal Jacket. He knew he'd created a nutjob.

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Re: I wonder where the "Stop hatin'" was at... [Re: Miranda]
      #596914 - 11/08/09 10:20 AM

From Orlando.

Notice the same tendency to already start the mental deficiency type of defense, already building a defense for a heinous act. We cannot blame the economy or the company that let him go. But it does not take away from the fact that these are the type of circumstances that are a sign of a possible problem. if he had said good bye to friends and family before this, given away his furniture, had numerous conversations about how his employer was wrong, and it would be ok to seek revenge on them for their wrongs, then it would even be closer. Should we just whitewash his issues, and act like none of his life situations played a part, regardless if they are economic or religious.

"During a brief court appearance Saturday, Jason Rodriguez said nothing as a judge denied him bail. After the hearing his lawyer described him as a mentally ill man who fell victim to countless problems.

"This guy is a compilation of the front page of the entire year -- unemployment, foreclosure, bankruptcy, divorce -- all of the stresses," said the public defender, Bob Wesley. "He has been declining in mental health. There is no logic whatsoever, which points to a mental health case. It looks like a classic case of stress overload."

Wesley said when Rodriguez's marriage went sour he couldn't afford to pay the child support he owed for his 8-year-old son; h was nearly $90,000 behind on bills. Rodriguez eventually took a job at a Subway sandwich shop but struggled to get hours.

Rodriguez's former mother-in-law, America Holloway, said he was a schizophrenic who was constantly paranoid, blaming others for all of his woes and who always thought everyone disliked him."


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Re: I wonder where the "Stop hatin'" was at... [Re: spinnerdegrassi]
      #596916 - 11/08/09 10:24 AM

You are 100% right, the leadership failed at numerous levels to deal with this problem. Of course who will be the first to protest the solution? All in the name of political correctness. So at what point should we say, who leads the military, and what effect has that had on the current command climate?

If the National Command Authority does not like the solution, then the very leadership that is responsible for preventing this type of terrorist attack is tying the hands of the people who could be working more effectively to prevent it.


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Re: OT-Jihad at Fort Hood [Re: Redlegg]
      #596920 - 11/08/09 10:32 AM

It was reported in out local paper this morning that he was on a medical training programme last year and made 'anti-American' statements to his classmates. They complained to their superiors who didn't file offical complaints because they feared an 'anti-Muslim" smear campaign.

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Re: OT-Jihad at Fort Hood [Re: KiwiGirl]
      #596922 - 11/08/09 10:44 AM

More political correctness. Not doing the right thing because if they did, they would be denounced as bigots, racists or anti muslim. That is the same thing that is going on right now with healthcare. Throw out the race card at the opposition, to try to shut them up. The sky might not be falling, but nothing wrong with looking up.

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Yet McVeigh... [Re: spinnerdegrassi]
      #596923 - 11/08/09 10:45 AM

...gave them a reason to go after militias. Seems when it is a group they "want" to get, they use it as an excuse, when it is a "protected" group, it was an individual act.

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Re: Yet McVeigh... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #596926 - 11/08/09 11:02 AM

When Doctor Tiller was murdered, the governement (homeland Security) reaction was to provide more protection to abortion clinics and Doctors for fear of more attacks from the extremists in the anti abortion groups, and to warn about the extremists in these groups. When 13 soldiers are killed, the same people's reaction is to worry about backlash against the very group that the killer belonged to, and absolutely no warnings about the extremists in the same groups.

Sort of explains it in a nutshell. Sounds like the government is concerned about who they feel are the real victims in both cases. I wonder if you compare the number of soldiers killed in the US, in non war related attacks against them vs, the number of Abortion providers killed, if we would really see who needs the most protection.


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