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Substantial change?
      #693624 - 09/29/10 07:33 AM

I live in NH and my order states that I can not request a change in CS unless there is substantial change. My Ex calculated CS based on 45K no bonus and I now know from W2's that she made 58K last year and now has a bonus option, plus I think she is making closer to 65K. I pay her some of my bonus so I think hers should count now as well. Is 58K enough to ask for a modification? The payment for CS, bonus, and insurance is very lopsided right now. Not many places for help....I need options!!

Before anybody says anything I am a good dad have my kids 50% and always pay her on time. Just was taken advantage of as I had not done a divorce before and wanted to be done with a cheater and liar.


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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #693626 - 09/29/10 07:56 AM

When was the currernt CS order done? Many States will not question an recalculation after 3 years.

I believe the change in CS amounts are done if there has been a 10% change in income or the CS amount will change by $50 per month.

You only mentioned her income but has your income changed also? If your amount has increased at the same rate, than there may not be a change in the CS order.


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Re: Substantial change? [Re: Tweeby]
      #693652 - 09/29/10 09:19 AM

It has been about 1 1/2 and my income has not changed. I can go in for modification after 3 years or substantial change. I am interested of course because I was screwed for a cheating wife. I have 50/50, pay aprox. 1,500, insurance, 30% of bonus earned, and still pay for half of school supplies & medical. This is not to say that I don't think I owe CS but doing more work I think it is more like pay $750 (based on reversing the obligor on the calculator) and pay for insurance for them. Thoughts?

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #693653 - 09/29/10 09:21 AM

Oh...so do I have any options with her making more, changing jobs, now has bonus structure? or is there anything else I can try and do to change this?

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #693760 - 09/29/10 02:22 PM

Usually a 10% change up or down warrants a CS review.

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Edited by Miranda (09/29/10 02:22 PM)


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Re: Substantial change? [Re: Miranda]
      #693770 - 09/29/10 02:32 PM

Thx! 10% up or down on what I pay based on the cs calculator or 10% in wages?

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #693783 - 09/29/10 03:08 PM

Either I would think. Somestates do the 10% or 50.00 difference thing. I would like that your ex's wages increase as they did would warrant an review.

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: Miranda]
      #693986 - 09/29/10 10:17 PM

I would absolutely consider this a substantial change.

Jeff - here, you can modify CS at any time, however many times, if it changes the CS up or down 10%.


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Re: Substantial change? [Re: MrsB]
      #694126 - 09/30/10 08:55 AM

Thanks for the help...just wanted to make sure before I go to court. I sent a certified mail to her that she rec. yesterday. Then called and said unless it is court ordered I don't have to. I did this only to show that I attempted to obtain without going to court. What should the next step be? Motion but what do I put in it? Want to try and do this alone as much as possible.

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #694161 - 09/30/10 10:10 AM

Do you pay child support through DHS/CSE (the state) or just write her a check that goes directly from you to her?

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #694250 - 09/30/10 01:02 PM

You need a motion to modify the child support order.

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: Miranda]
      #694486 - 10/01/10 06:31 AM

Thx again for the responses. I actually do one better I electronically move it from my bank account to our old one so that she has it same day as i get paid. Would love to pay through the state though...I think.

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #694488 - 10/01/10 06:35 AM

Jeff what state are you in?

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: MrsB]
      #694494 - 10/01/10 07:07 AM

I am in NH

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: jeff123]
      #694635 - 10/01/10 08:51 PM

In many states, statutes indicate the threshhold where the amouiunt of change, based on an application of child support guidelines, creates a presumption of a "substantial " change.

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Re: Substantial change? [Re: Maury]
      #696353 - 10/08/10 05:11 PM

Hi Jeff-
NH has not defined what "substantial" means so it is at the whim of the Master. I can tell you that the NH Supreme Court is hearing oral arguments on my case (although a court date has not been set) in which we hope for some guidelines to be set. At our last court hearing the Master ruled that a 1% change was substantial so I think you should, by all means, go to court for modification.
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Re: Substantial change? [Re: FrustratedInNH]
      #696367 - 10/08/10 07:01 PM

In my state you can do a CS review every 3 years. I will add tho that even with her increase your cs may not change a whole lot to make filing something worth it. My ex lowered his income from 75,000. to 60000. a year and in the end it was lowered 100 a month. Filing it however probably cost both of us a couple thousand even tho I agreed.

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