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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: gr8Dad]
      #720358 - 01/02/11 02:40 PM

Hehehehe! I'm not sure why I think it's so funny that you just can't believe me, but it is.

Why wouldn't his Colonel put that in writing? It's not a big deal or a security issue to say that deployments may change with the new administration.

It's hilarious that you can't believe anything I say about my case, and when I give proof of something for someone else, you think I must be making it up. It's bizarre.


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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: english7]
      #720362 - 01/02/11 02:57 PM

Ok, the Iraq thing was a deployment and the Korea thing was a PCS. That makes perfect sense now.

I don't see any OPSEC violations in the email the CO sent you.

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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: Miranda]
      #720366 - 01/02/11 03:08 PM

No OPSEC whatsover. that is more of a cold war thing, or RDF issue for certain units. DOD even releases the information months ahead of time.......

defense.gov/releases/


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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: Redlegg]
      #720377 - 01/02/11 03:38 PM

Thanks Red and Miranda. So maybe he HAS to believe just this one thing now.

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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: gr8Dad]
      #720392 - 01/02/11 04:50 PM

[quote]Realy, we read this board DAY after DAY after DAY with men asking "How much will I have to pay?" And women asking, "How much will I get?"

Yeah, sometimes its th other way around, but lets be honest, mostly women collect alimony.

So tell me WHAT a WORKING man or woman gains by getting married? What is the UP side for men OR women, being the main wage earner, to being married? [/quote]

Your question appears to me to based on a false premise. At least, what *should* be a false premise. If the only reason a person gets married is for the potential financial rewards, then their approach is one of completing a business contract and it should be treated as such. If the gold-digger spouse reneges on the contract then they pay the financial consequences, just like they would in any other business contract.

However, I think for the most part though a couple gets together for emotional needs rather than financial ones. The benefits in that type of marriage, if it's a successful one, are fairly apparent. Both spouses respect and trust each other, are partners that rely on each other to reach their common goals, and complement each others strengths and weaknesses. For example, in my relationship I'm the planner and he's the spontaneous one. He's the cook and I'm the cleaner. He's the extrovert whereas I can have a panic attack in a roomful of people. I have a short-fuse where he's Mr. Laidback. We level each other out, but have just enough differences to make it interesting.

Financially though? Getting married won't improve my life that much. Our salaries are comparable, with him making slightly more. However, since I haven't haven't had the responsibility of supporting and raising two teenage boys my finances are in better shape. Will I take on part of that responsibility? Sure - I already have. He can't count on the boys mother, whom he shares 50/50 custody to step up, so I do. He (and the boys) reap that benefit from our relationship now. The benefits I'll get.... hmmm... let me think........ just kidding. I'll get to spend the rest of my life with my best friend, who has helped me through rough times, who can lift heavy objects, and can deal with stuff I don't have the tolerance for.

Pardon my getting off the purpose of your question, which if I'm reading between the lines right, is to get someone to come up with valid reasons why marriage isn't an outdated concept. I don't believe that it's outdated, I do however believe it's way TOO EASY to GET married. I believe couples should have to wait a minimum of 1 yr from the date they get their license to hit the altar. I also believe pre-marital counseling should be mandatory and cover everything from finances, to religion, to parenting philosophies. If it was as difficult to GET married as it is to END a marriage, I think we'd see a decline in divorce statistics.

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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: javajunkiee]
      #720393 - 01/02/11 04:55 PM

I don't think we'd see a decline in divorces, I think we'd see a decline in marriages as a whole from ever coming to fruition. If all that was presented as the obstacle to getting married. more people would just say "screw it" and live together, and you'd have a whole lot more bastard children being born than you do now...and there's a hell of a lot now out of wedlock.

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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: spinnerdegrassi]
      #720401 - 01/02/11 05:11 PM

Well, we would not want to offend those who forgo the ceremony and choose to parent a child with their SO, or even the children themselves. Lets just refer to them as undocumented. :)

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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: javajunkiee]
      #720406 - 01/02/11 05:50 PM

"If the only reason a person gets married is for the potential financial rewards, then their approach is one of completing a business contract and it should be treated as such."

In divorce, marriage is treated as a financial union. I don't know how else it could be treated.

"lets be honest, mostly women collect alimony."

Why is that?


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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: javajunkiee]
      #720418 - 01/02/11 06:20 PM

But isn't "marriage", with the whole license thing, a PURELY financial thing? I mean I can love a woman, live with her, care for her, support her, and she the same in return, without ever getting a marriage license. The only thing the marriage license does is permit health insurance, allow name changes, and tie people together financially.

EVERYTHING emotional can be done without it, not the same financially.

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Re: ON topic, ladies, tell me WHY? [Re: gr8Dad]
      #720424 - 01/02/11 06:31 PM

I would imagine to some it is. I can understand that. What I find hard to believe is that you cannot see how someone else may see it differently......and because it is different, and not what you think, it cannot possibly make sense. The truth is that you can still get married and keep 100% seperate, enter into agreements or prenuptials, etc. With the exception of CS, a marriage doesn't have to mean anything financially......

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