finz
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" The only thing the marriage license does is permit health insurance, allow name changes, and tie people together financially."
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For many people, sanctifying the sexual union for religious reasons is the primary purpose of marrying
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gr8Dad
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You do not need a state marriage license to be married religiously. My brother is a Wiccan and he did his without a state license. Proof of that? Get divorced and see if the church accepts that as "divorce".
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finz
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You do need a state marriage license to be married in MANY religions.
My church, the Catholic Church, recognizes state decrees of divorce. What churches don't recognize that and how is that relavent ?
Goody for the Wiccans if they do it without a state license.
You don't have to agree that chosing to marry rather than live together for religios reasons is a smart choice, but I'd appreciate it if you would just acknowledge that there are other reasons for getting married rather than JUST to purposely screw your partner financially.
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spinnerdegrassi
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I thought it was so women could show up at work and parade their rings in front of other women who were single to make them jealous.
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Miranda
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[quote]I thought it was so women could show up at work and parade their rings in front of other women who were single to make them jealous. [/quote]
I have a nice rock. If single ladies are jealous that is really not my problem.
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javajunkiee
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"But isn't "marriage", with the whole license thing, a PURELY financial thing?"
++It didn't start out that way. Back in our parents generation, and certainly their parents generation, it was more of a religious requirement. "Living in sin" has only become more socially acceptable the last few decades. Our parents and gparents also lived in a time where a wife working outside of the home wasn't acceptable either. The little woman wasn't deemed capable of working for a living, and the husband was obligated to care for her. Society has changed and the laws haven't kept up. Of course, it also doesn't help when some women use the antiquated laws to pad their bank accounts rather than take personal responsibility for their own choices.
"I mean I can love a woman, live with her, care for her, support her, and she the same in return, without ever getting a marriage license."
++Very true. That's basically what my SO is doing, with the caveat that his support is NOT financial in my case.
The only thing the marriage license does is permit health insurance, allow name changes, and tie people together financially.
++All of those things can be obtained without marriage, and at least one of them isn't even advantageous anymore in a lot of cases.
- Getting your spouses health insurance isn't that much of an option anymore. If your spouse has insurance available through their own employer, and they are still added to yours, you pay an add'l fee. For my SO and the boys to go on my ins., I'd have an increase of $130/mo for the family coverage, plus an add'l insured spouse fee of $150. That's not happening.
- You can also get your name changed without marriage. I did it in 94.
- The last thing - tied together financially? Granted my experience is likely different from alot of people, but during my marriage I kept my finances separate, filed taxes separately, my name was on the house, etc. The financial rewards I shared with him were given willingly and I put a HELL of a lot more into his pocket than he did into mine. BUT, it was MY CHOICE, and in as much as my marriage lasted 3yrs, I chalked it up to a life lesson and moved on. Life doesn't come with a money-back guarantee.
"EVERYTHING emotional can be done without it, not the same financially. "
++I agree with you that the emotional attachment can be acheived without a piece of wedding cake, but I respectfully disagree with you that marriage is always a "PURELY" financial transaction.
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Redlegg
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cake, I love cake
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gr8Dad
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"My church, the Catholic Church, recognizes state decrees of divorce."
Finz, you forget, I was raised Catholic. Get a civil divorce, then try and get remarried in the Catholic church, see if they recognize your divorce, or if you have to get an annulment...;)
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javajunkiee
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I go for the cupcakes first. I have to work up to the cake. ;)
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Redlegg
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It is well worth the work :)
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