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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #723954 - 01/13/11 04:55 PM

I don't think she is TRYING to poke holes in the prenup - she just wants to understand the circumstances when I come back with the outcome. Assuming there are no more continuances. Considering there are no children involved it is a tad ridiculous it has taken nearly 2 years to get divorced.

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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: 1966Gal]
      #723958 - 01/13/11 05:09 PM

[quote]Last year I met a 27 year old at a resteruant for a date. When I found out she was collecting alimony from her ex I gave her a piece of hanzblinx's mind and told her never to text or call me or even look at me in the eye. Needless today she will remember that date.

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Wow. What a loss for her!!! BAER [/quote]

Considering she drove 3 hours to get there and 3 hours to get home, I'd say you are correct.


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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: hanzblinx]
      #723974 - 01/13/11 05:45 PM

I met a knockout a couple years ago. We started with small talk, and it got very interesting. Clearly there was chemistry....I had her phone number....then she told me she lived off of child support and alimony with a snicker....I gave her number back and said I wasn't interested in being her next victim.

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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: DedicatedDad]
      #723982 - 01/13/11 05:57 PM

This one had a nice sob story about how he left her and their kids for another woman (true) right after he passed his boards. And he agreed to the alimony amount - they settled because he was in a hurry to marry wife #2. She was living off of it because it was designed to "support" her getting her degree as she did him.

Honestly - all that didn't bother me at all. But considering the SWEET deal she got from him - she was extremely hateful towards him. I mean - she hated him said he was a miserable husband - so she should have been THRILLED he took off AND she got all that money. One would think. She also got the marital home that he doesn't get his half of the equity from until she sells it. All that and he could never do anything good. And she always had thinly veiled insults for him in front of the kids. THAT bothered me.

She was VERY attractive, especially considering her age.

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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: elliesmom]
      #723993 - 01/13/11 06:15 PM

The women I met was 39 years old but looked around 30, had been married for 20 years, and got alimony for life. She clearly spent gobs of money on herself as evident by her clothes, nails, makeup, hair, tan, vehicle, and what just about had to be a boob job, although I could be wrong (as I didn't ask!).

Beyond all that, I don't really care what she looked like. She could have just as well have been an average lady from down the street...as soon as I heard alimony with a snicker, I escaped.


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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: elliesmom]
      #724007 - 01/13/11 07:06 PM

Actually, I'm interested in the pre-nup because H and I drew one up ourselves. We followed the advice of a lawyer, but still drew it up ourselves and signed it ourselves with a notary.

I'm interested in seeing if your dad's pre-nup holds up...because I've wondered how well ours would hold up. Your dad's sounds like ours...I hope it does hold up!

I doesn't sound like she stands a chance. She wants part of his downpayment, which no longer exists because of the downturn in the market. However, I also don't think that your dad will get anything for his sweat-equity in her home.

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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: DedicatedDad]
      #724008 - 01/13/11 07:06 PM

Maybe they need to update spousal support laws.....like, you only get to take the capital gains waiver on selling a house once, or up to a certain amount....maybe you should only be allowed to collect ss after one marriage.

Or maybe everyone needs to be more careful to check someone's financial history and RUN if they hear the A word.


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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: DedicatedDad]
      #724010 - 01/13/11 07:09 PM

I met a knockout a couple years ago. We started with small talk, and it got very interesting. Clearly there was chemistry....I had her phone number....then she told me she lived off of child support and alimony with a snicker....I gave her number back and said I wasn't interested in being her next victim.

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Funny. I once had a blind date with a guy who started bragging about how he hid money and was paying minimal child support as a result. I had ZERO interest in him.

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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: 1966Gal]
      #724015 - 01/13/11 07:16 PM

The sweat equity is a toss up. But he did turn her 3BR/1BA home into a 4BR/2BA home with a completely remodeled kitchen and paid for all of it. Even with the downturn in the market there was significant property value increase. So based on my limited understanding - he is definitely entitled to half the equity increase based on the percentage of his investment. The "sweat equity" would be based on the value of the work her provided for free and specifically mentioned in the case law of the state in question.

But he doesn't WANT any of that. If he gets it - he will settle for giving it back for nothing unless she gets something that he doesn't think she should have (Alimony or any of his property). He considers the money he spent to be lost and doesn't care to get it back.

So we shall see.

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Re: Just for the statistical purposes... [Re: 1966Gal]
      #724019 - 01/13/11 07:22 PM

Yeah, because alimony and child support are the same thing, right?

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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...


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