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StrayKatJJL
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Take my Daughter to another Country?
      #68257 - 01/23/06 11:43 AM

This may sound extreme but I am out ideas. My ex took my daughter from Florida last May to live with her parents in Oregon. She is mentally unstable and I am quite concerned for my 4 year old daughter. I lost custody of her only because this Judge never gives custody to men. Since she was taken so far away I can only have her 2 months in the summer. Thats just plain wrong, but the ruling as it is. So what if I took her to England, Canada, or Australia??? Can I be pursued in another country as her legal father. If we never return I don't see how but could be very wrong. It seems like custody laws would not apply in a different country. Well, I said I was desperate.



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Re: Take my Daughter to another Country? [Re: StrayKatJJL]
      #68348 - 01/23/06 04:55 PM

YOu would need both parents signature in order for your child to get a passport. Instead of moving to another country why don't you move to where your daughter is?

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Re: Take my Daughter to another Country? [Re: Miranda]
      #68354 - 01/23/06 05:55 PM

It depends on the country, but in many US friendly countries, you can be pursued.

If your EX is so unstable, you should be able to prove it in court. I suggest you move to Oregon, wait six months, file for a jurisdiction change and then file for custody. Prove the ex is unstable and you could get custody.

Take the child to another country, wait 3 years, have the child taken, and never see the child again.

Your decision...

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Re: Take my Daughter to another Country? [Re: texasjoe]
      #68366 - 01/23/06 06:22 PM

In response to Miranda- I was aware of the both signatures but thought a quick "legitmate" trip to the Bahamas would sufice for that. Isn't a passport good for where ever you go? The fight to for custody is the real issue. Her parents are the real danger. Very religious, very strict, very controling. They are the ones upbring her-My daughter in the disguise of my X. My intent is part revenge. She was taken from me without so much as a wisper. I have lost everything in court battles to get her back and now they are making up stories about me and not letting me even talk with her.
TexasJoe. I like your idea too. How would I go about proving her unstable. I can video tape her craziness but would that be enough. She really has quite lost it.


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Re: Take my Daughter to another Country? [Re: StrayKatJJL]
      #68993 - 01/24/06 10:45 PM

No, a simple video tape is probably not enough. However, if she is unstable and you move close by so that you can get standard parenting time (EOW), it may cause her to interfere with your relationship. When this interference occurs (such as denying you parenting time), you have grounds for a change in custody. If you could entice her into an argument and a physical assault on you, you might have additional grounds to request a change in custody. People who are unstable cannot handle pressure. I would look for ways to increase the pressure. For example, if she doesn't provide you information about visits to the Dr, I would send certified letters requesting the reason for the visit, the diagnosis, prognosis and course of treatment. Everytime they have to break their schedule to go to the post office to retrieve such a letter, the stress level goes up a little more.

Bottom line... most people think there ex is unstable. In fact, I don't understand why the people who spend so much time with my ex can't see the things I do.

You will need evidence that she is neglecting your child, has anger management issues or is willing to interfere with your relationship and will totally disregard the needs of your child because she is incapable, unwilling or just so bitter at you she can't.

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Re: Take my Daughter to another Country? [Re: texasjoe]
      #69302 - 01/25/06 05:30 PM

Your ideas have merit and deserves a chance before going abroad. BTW I found 1 major english speaking country not on the list to persue somehing like this. Most are but.. I think I would get better satisfaction to move my chess pieces and collect SS then move away for ever. It deserves a chance. Thanks for the thoughts.

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Re: Take my Daughter to another Country? [Re: StrayKatJJL]
      #72104 - 01/31/06 05:40 PM

if you are telling the complete truth than see what you can do in Florida. Who let her move? Did she have a court order? If the judge never giveds men custody than that could be a reason to have the custody reviewed. Florida should be the state in charge of your child. T would file there and make her go to court there. Request a de novo if possible and a new judge asking that judge to excuse him or herself. A de novo is a new trial all together. No, you need a passport to take the child even to Canade or Mexico now new law 12/2005. I know I thought same thing. We cannot kidnap our kids, that is a sure way to lose them forever.

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Re: Take my Daughter to another Country? [Re: StrayKatJJL]
      #73815 - 02/03/06 07:54 PM

I can speak from experience and that is years ago we pursued my husbands ex wife for custody of his then 9 yr old daughter.....His ex was unstable and was really not fit to care for her child. It took us two years and a lot of money to finally get custody of her but we did it. The ex took her out of state (We are in AZ and she went to CA)without our permission. We had to hire a detective to find her and bring her back here when we finally won custody. My advice to you is do it the right way and go thru the courts. It may take time but in the end, it all works out better for everyone if they don't break the law. Now a days, judges DO give custody to the fathers if the mothers are unfit. My step daughter is now 21, knows what her real mother is all about and is happy and well adjusted. Good Luck.

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