gr8Dad
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"Except for in rare circumstances, a parent only becomes a visitor if they make themselves a visitor."
And THIS is TYPICAL, "I have never been an NCP, but I know EXACTLY what it is like" mentality.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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DedicatedDad
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I was thinking the exact same thing...
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gr8Dad
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But the FACT is that there is a LOT more accountability on the NCP side and a LOT less enforcement on the CP side. How many CP's are in jail for failure to facilitate parenting time? How many NCP's are told, like CP's are told when they deny parenting time, "I know you haven't paid child support, but forget about the OWED support, and you better start paying..."?
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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elliesmom
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"Except for in rare circumstances, a parent only becomes a visitor if they make themselves a visitor."
Sorry - but that is total BS. I would say the opposite. Except in cases where the CP chooses to not make it so - the eow NCP WILL WITHOUT EXCEPTION become a visitor. And the law does not in anyway require them to make the other parent matter - that would solely be their own choice to do so. Teachers, CP's bedmate, spend more time with their kids and have more influence over decisions in their kids life than they do. Unless the CP chooses out of kindness to keep them relevant.
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Forgiveness is...letting go of the hope that the past can be changed.
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Sherron
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"Except in cases where the CP chooses to not make it so - the eow NCP WILL WITHOUT EXCEPTION become a visitor. "
Some NCPs make the choice to become visitors and it has little to nothing to do with what the CP chooses.
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spinnerdegrassi
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That's the point...some...and it applies in both equations. The majority of NCP's though see their children when they are told they are allowed to see their children. There are some who are afforded more time, and there are some who choose not to exercise any or little time. But that big bulge in the middle is the NCP who now goes to 4 or so days a month, and that is their total allocation of time now with their kids. How people come up with the notion that overall...as a whole that's better for the kids is beyond me. Exceptions can always be made for the fringe element on both sides, but just look at society as a whole to see what an utter disaster this has created in society.
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ssmom79
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How people come up with the notion that overall...as a whole that's better for the kids is beyond me.
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Yea I agree there. But like YAH said, it doesn't work for everyone. But it would be a good starting point, they don't seem to mind splitting assets and liabilities down the middle...
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Sherron
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"That's the point...some...and it applies in both equations."
I agree with that... the point I disagreed was the "WILL WITHOUT EXCEPTION".
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elliesmom
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Disagreed how?
The point was that unless the CP decides otherwise they WILL be marginalized. Your point was they could also be marginalized by choice. Well, duh. If someone wants to be marginalized of course they will be.
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Sherron
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"Your point was they could also be marginalized by choice. Well, duh. If someone wants to be marginalized of course they will be. "
Didn't see that as an option with the way it was worded, that's all. Looks like we agree after all...
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