SweetLight
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"This really is an anomaly. This is not in any way, shape or form the sentiment of any other local churches or church leaders," Johnson said. "It really has saddened many people. It goes against almost everyone else's philosophy and theology of what it means to be a church."
----->Did you miss this part? Maybe, but thanks for the non-bashing of Christians. Particularly in this “freewill” church. You sir are always so tolerant- just as you are with the WBC. Oh wait, your transparency and double standard are showing…..yet again. As long as you are not biased or a hypocrite, because we can’t have that. ;-)
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gr8Dad
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I haven't baahed anyone. But let's face it, the bible has racist tendencies, sexist tendencies, and a slew of other things MOST Christians consider old fashioned. So why is the anti "gay" thing still held onto?
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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Redlegg
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I haven't baahed anyone. But let's face it, the bible has racist tendencies, sexist tendencies, and a slew of other things MOST Christians consider old fashioned. So why is the anti "gay" thing still held onto?
I will take a shot, you won't like the train of thought. So I will say that you think it is wrong, and I understand why you think that. Just because you don't believe it, does not mean it doesn't exist. But I am sure you will explain why they are stupid for thinking it.
Perhaps they believe it is a behavior, and not a genetic characteristic, such as race, and gender.
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Redlegg
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One of the questions that comes to my mind is why would anyone want to belong to an organization that is in direct contradiction with their own beliefs, and then be upset when those beliefs are exercised. I mean if I join an atheist organization, should I be surprised when they reject me if I believe in God, should I go to court to make them accept me...because they are stopping me from exercising my religion freely. My thoughts are perhaps I should find another organization that is more in line with my own beliefs...
Either way, this church is wrong, it is a racist policy, and I hope the entire membership leaves, and the churches just fades away into the dustbin..
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gr8Dad
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But if racism is wrong, and the bible condones racism, wouldn't that make the bible wrong or racism right?
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Redlegg
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Is this really a pointless discussion you want to have. I mean the world is not flat, so isn't science wrong, well no of course not, because they are learning more, and it is a science, not a perfection. All the things that science cannot prove, but we believe, for me that would be a cure for cancer, I believe they will find it. For you it could be ancient aliens, or that you believe in one of the theories of evolution, while others believe in a different theory of evolution. Sure, you can go on to ask what about this, and what about that, but the fact is that it is not a discussion point, you asked for a reason, I gave one to you, and just one as a possibility. It may not even be the actual reason.
Science can explain a lot of things, for the ones it can't, we believe it will in time, whether it is tomorrow, ten years, 1000 years, but it will all be explained one day.
I understand your beliefs, and that is good enough for me. I thought my reason made some sense for the question you asked.
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gr8Dad
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Nice dodge for a COMPLETELY indefensible position. The bible supports both racism and anti gay agendas. One is forgotten as old fashioned(racism). And the other is continued for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
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Sherron
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"Nice dodge for a COMPLETELY indefensible position. The bible supports both racism and anti gay agendas. One is forgotten as old fashioned(racism). And the other is continued for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than THE BIBLE SAYS SO. "
Why should anyone have to defend themselves to you? Your feelings on the subject are well known, no answer will change them or be sufficient for you. What are you're after, that if Christians are against homosexuality, they also have to endorse racism because of how you interpret the Bible? Or do you just want your "gotcha" moment? If you think of me as a hypocrite because I am not a racist, well... I'll just have to get over it... somehow...
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Redlegg
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And the other is continued for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
I gave you a reason, and even said you would not agree, and you would say why it was wrong. I guess you either knew and asked to start a another few pages, or you do not believe it could be a reason. Either way, maybe it is not a reason.
Maybe if you apply the same reasoning, like the constitution. It was created by men, not perfect men, and the times they lived in is a lot of the reason for that. As time goes on, mankind's understanding of things change. Lots of things in the bible people do not do today that they did in the times it was written. The book has not changed, but thank goodness people have.
I guess you could chalk it up to evolution, but maybe they are not as progressive, or as evolved as you. The reasons are the reasons, you disagree with them, I understand that.
I think you are doing the right thing, if you do not believe the same way, then do not participate, it is your right.
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M5M5
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*sigh* Please show me the book/verse that shows the Bible condoning racism. Please and thank you.
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