LexieBelle
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[quote]But by no means was Iraq about 9/11
>>>>>>>> Sorry , that's not what GW said . [/quote]
GW is a fvcking moron.
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Gecko
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Our involvement in Iraq during Desert Storm lasted what? 2 weeks? Entirely too short of a time period.
---> The first Gulf War went from August 1990 – February 1991. Most people refer to entire thing as Desert Storm, even though the liberation of Kuwait (aka Operation Desert Storm) took place January 17, 1991 to February 28 of the same year.
They should have gotten rid of Saddam when they had the chance.
---> I totally agree.
Secondly, we had no presence in the country of Iraq since that time until March of 2003.
---> That's not quite true. While we withdrew our military forces, we didn't withdrawal our operatives...hence Operations Desert Thunder and Operations Desert Fox in November and December '98. Oh...and there was that Tomahawk cruise missiles attack of the Zaafaraniya Nuclear Fabrication and Industrial Complex in the Baghdad in '93.
---> There was already enough cause for concern to justify a Second Gulf War (aka Operation Iraqi Freedom), but some people can't leave well enough alone and had to 'sex up' (as the Brits put it) the WMD reports. The result...bad public relations juju.
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Gecko
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"Maybe" you're missing something? Besides some common sense, how about enough respect to not use dead soldiers in an attempt to make a point.
---> You really need to pour a glass of wine and chill. Then go back and read...as in read what Annio wrote...and then you will understand my response, AND that I was being slightly facecious given the uproar over this issue.
---> But just in case, "they did not realize those images would be given to the very men who have lost their lives giving them that freedom."
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Sherron
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"---> You really need to pour a glass of wine and chill. Then go back and read...as in read what Annio wrote...and then you will understand my response, AND that I was being slightly facecious given the uproar over this issue."
I read what annieo wrote, and I'm even gonna give you credit and say that you understood what she meant... I fail to see the humor in your post, dead soldiers just aren't all that funny to me. For you to use those soldiers in an attempt to be facetious... fail...
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RJ1
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[censored]://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/12/anger-builds-over-tower-design-resembling-911-explosion/
What about this one?
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gr8Dad
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Nobody lied about WMD's. Saddam wanted everyone to THINK he had them, and all of the intel SAID he had them. Those that voted for it had access to ALL the SAME intel, and it ALL indicated that he had WMD's and he was looking for access to more.
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LexieBelle
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I would tend to disagree with that. I think much of what "intel" there was was either exaggerated or a downright lie. This country had a game plan in mind to take out Hussein and it was gonna get done, by hook or by crook. Which is exactly what happened.
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gr8Dad
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Let me et you in on a "secret" that is becoming clearer and clearer as information becomes freer and freer. "Intel" and intelligence reports and intelligence officers are really just GUESSING. Yes, they are EDUCATED guesses, but still just GUESSES. They look at the raw data, and make a determination. They don't usually turn over the raw data to the higher up, however, in THIS case, the reports DID contain the raw data, and the raw data indicated hed had WMD's. I worked in the intel field for quite a while, and the data I saw (not when I worked in the field, but what has been released so far) gave an indicator that he was setting up production facilities.
So if the PROFESSIONALS think he was doing it, and the raw data from THREE different intel agencies (the US, France and [censored]) indicated he was doing it, then that is what you go for.
Interestingly enough, if the weatherman get tomorrows weather wrong, no one calls him a liar. Intel is exactly the same.
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googledad
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So if the PROFESSIONALS think he was doing it, and the raw data from THREE different intel agencies (the US, France and [censored]) indicated he was doing it, then that is what you go for.
>>>>>>>>>> A lie .
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gr8Dad
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">>>>>>>>>> A lie ."
Prove it.
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