gr8Dad
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Half a MEDICALLY needed braces. Keep in mind, RARELY are braces MEDICALLY NEEDED. What will be the MEDICAL outcome if the child does not get them?
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Sherron
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"Half a MEDICALLY needed braces. Keep in mind, RARELY are braces MEDICALLY NEEDED. What will be the MEDICAL outcome if the child does not get them? "
You can't just rewrite her court order. According to the OP, braces are included in her court order, she does not need to prove to him medical need beyond a shadow of a doubt. From her description, with the child having teeth growing in behind other teeth, I'm not sure what kind of parent would argue the cost of $600 to fix the issue, especially when the other parent is willing to work with payments.
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gr8Dad
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One that cannot AFFORD it?
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"One that cannot AFFORD it? "
How do you know the ncp can't afford it? Do you know how much the ncp makes and what payment arrangement the cp is willing to agree to?
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gr8Dad
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Nope, just brought up a POSSIBLE reason. When I brought it up to the OP, she said she didn't CARE. Well, if you can't afford something, you can't afford it, life goes on. Never heard of a kid dying from crooked teeth.
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Sherron
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"Well, if you can't afford something, you can't afford it, life goes on."
And if he refuses, she can get a judgment against him and ask to have his wages garnished... and life still goes on.
"Never heard of a kid dying from crooked teeth. "
Is that the qualifier now, that if it doesn't cause death, the ncp shouldn't have to help pay?
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gr8Dad
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Can only garnish wages so far. As for the standard, what OTHER requirement makes something MEDICALLY needed? Are crooked teeth going to make the child sick? Cause pain?
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Sherron
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"Can only garnish wages so far."
Eh, then he will owe it until he pays it.
"As for the standard, what OTHER requirement makes something MEDICALLY needed? Are crooked teeth going to make the child sick? Cause pain? "
I'm not the ortho for the child in question, but as a general answer, yes, they very much can. The braces I put on dd were technically cosmetic at the time, but according to her ortho and dentist, the treatment plan was designed to prevent some major issues down the road. Now, maybe the OP is one of those CPs that wants to shell out money herself, just to stick it to the NCP. Or maybe the kid just needs braces badly. Not that it matters here, the OP's co covers "braces"... and she is willing to work with him on payments, doesn't sound like she is out to screw over the NCP.
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gr8Dad
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"Eh, then he will owe it until he pays it."
Yep, just another way we FVCK the NCP, by generating costs based on the CP's desires, giving them NO say in the matter...then sitting back and wondering why NCP's don't act MORE like "parents".
"The braces I put on dd were technically cosmetic at the time"
Then the NCP should not have had to pay for them because they were NOT "Medically Needed".
"Now, maybe the OP is one of those CPs that wants to shell out money herself, just to stick it to the NCP. Or maybe the kid just needs braces badly. Not that it matters here, the OP's co covers "braces"... and she is willing to work with him on payments, doesn't sound like she is out to screw over the NCP."
And maybe the NCP just CANNOT AFFORD the braces. Of course, THAT doesn't MATTER, because he is a PARENT, and he HAS to pay, BECAUSE he is parent, right? So BECAUSE he is a PARENT, he should have a SAY int he matter...oh, wait, he's not THAT much of a parent, he's just a "Pay what you are told" parent, not a "Have a say in the raising of the child" parent...BAER.
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Sherron
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"Yep, just another way we FVCK the NCP, by generating costs based on the CP's desires, giving them NO say in the matter...then sitting back and wondering why NCP's don't act MORE like "parents"."
Dang it, you got me... yup, I always just run up medical bills for my kids to fvck over my ex, it's not like I get to pay for all out of pocket myself first... fyi, for the last 10 years, the only thing I've ever asked ex to help pay was the braces... you'll be happy to know that I've had a change of heart though and will nickle and dime him to death for his 50%.
"Then the NCP should not have had to pay for them because they were NOT "Medically Needed"."
The judge felt differently when he signed off on the judgment.
"And maybe the NCP just CANNOT AFFORD the braces. Of course, THAT doesn't MATTER, because he is a PARENT, and he HAS to pay, BECAUSE he is parent, right? So BECAUSE he is a PARENT, he should have a SAY int he matter...oh, wait, he's not THAT much of a parent, he's just a "Pay what you are told" parent, not a "Have a say in the raising of the child" parent...BAER. "
Hey, I couldn't afford dd's braces either. Guess what, I figured it out. As far as my ex having a say in the matter... I have sole legal, so nope, no requirement. Despite of that... I am co-parenting with him as much as he wants me to, and he has as much say in raising ds as he wants to... which is zero... and no, of course he is not a "pay what you are told" parent, don't be silly. He is a "pay what I can garnish" parent.
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