DedicatedDad
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It sounds more to me like a touch of mental illness rather maternal instinct.
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Eve
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Too bad some of you are so very ignorant. If you can't accept and hear the truth, that is your problem. I stand by my posts.
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ssmom79
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Yes it's just too bad. We will never get it. We don't understand, we haven't experienced it...yea, we get it.
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dadinva
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"the chemistry of bonding harmones the female releases giving birth, while breastfeeding, and early motherhood. THAT is the "extremely astute observation" that one could make"
I've heard this attitude "professionally" referred to as the golden uterus complex. And it has everything to do with mommy and nothing to do with child.
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Renny
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" I've heard this attitude "professionally" referred to as the golden uterus complex. And it has everything to do with mommy and nothing to do with child."
I'd say the mother-child bond has to do with evolutionary biology and the preservation of the species. The evidence that the mother has a biological imperative to nurture and protect her young is everywhere in other species. And saying it has "nothing" to do with the child is surely wrong. The child needs to be loved.
But biology doesn't trump social attitudes. Studies supporting this or that position in a gender-specific argument are tainted by cultural biases in their design. So the argument comes down to a political battle. At this point fathers have made tremendous progress towards their goal of 50/50 parenting and no child support. Neither position, favoring women or shared parenting, is necessarily right or wrong. As a a society we do what we have to do. The Israelis raised their children in kibbutzims for practical and strategic reasons. I'm sure there are studies showing that their children are happy, well adjusted individuals. But that doesn't mean it it's ideal for us here in the US.
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gr8Dad
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" At this point fathers have made tremendous progress towards their goal of 50/50 parenting and no child support."
Not as much progress as women had made on SOLE custody and large child support awards. Your statement is VERY sexist, and incorrect, as even with 50/50, child support is usually awaatded to the woman.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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dadinva
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I never meant to imply that a mother-child bond wasn't important. Just that mothers' view of it being superior to a father-child bond is not valid (and yes, I believe that even when they are infants). And THAT is what I meant by having everything to do with [some] mothers.
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dadinva
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And forget "other species." I am not an animal. Neither is my child. Or her mother.
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Renny
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"And forget "other species." I am not an animal. Neither is my child. Or her mother."
Look up "speciesism" in Wikipedia.
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dadinva
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Huh? Neither Wikipedia nor Richard D. Ryder nor any other person "determines" whether or not people are animals. For that matter, there are many others who would disagree with Ryder. Doesn't prove any one in the bunch on either side - just that they don't agree. (Also doesn't mean that animals do or do not deserve ethical treatment, which seemed to be the main point of the article).
But we digress from the topic at hand.
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