Sampoe
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Char9
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HUH?
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googledad
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Off your meds again ?
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javajunkiee
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It's a nail alright - in the coffin that proves you're a whackjob. Things too quiet for you?
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gr8Dad
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While I in NO way defend Sampoe, what he is saying is correct. JL posted a SLEW of stuff about her personal situation, then complained when someone supposedly found out all this stuff about her.
She is convinced someone TOLD her ex about this stuff, but its JUST as likely he read it HERE.
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SRS
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I agree, Gr8. This exact stuff was posted on at least 3 different message boards - not just here.
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javajunkiee
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Oh I'm not arguing that point. Not at all. You post it on the internet you open yourself up to harassment.
I just saw this post as our resident troll's not so passive agressive attempt to say that JL was denying dad access and would be hurt by the original post.
Sampoe has her head so far up JL's hiney looking for dirt it's a wonder JL can even sit down.
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MrsB
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Ehhh. I'm sittin' just fine but thank you:).
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Sampoe
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If you don't like my posts then stay out of them! Yes Googledad, that's directed at you. When somebody is trying to build a custody case and this message board provides ALL the evidence to prove that somebody is NOT willing to co-parent, deliberatly practices Parental Alliantion (and makes absolutely no bones about it), blatantly manufactures 'stories' for entertainment (at the expense of a small child), then yes this place is a wealth of information and will be used. Sorry if you don't like it.
I admit that some of her stories are horrifying and NOT true, even in the most remote imagination.
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Runswithscissors
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I can't open it.....what is it/
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elliesmom
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Are you afraid MrsBs ex is too stupid to look this stuff up himself even after you spoonfed it in an email or just bored?
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nope
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What would make you think anyone spoon-fed her ex anything? From where I sit, MrsB shoved her on-line life down everyone's throats. She took on a blog hobby of sorts.
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M5M5
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Obsessed much? Get.A.Life.Sad.Individual.
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LexieBelle
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I have to say, you're posting to this and saying THAT? Is really ridiculous. You are one who probably helped FEED these "obsessions" and helped make it POSSIBLE for these people to access court records and such.
Dumbo opened her fat trap and WELCOMED people going and looking at court docs and such and you and several others handed out site names like it was candy.
THEN you bytch on a post like this that whoever is "obsessed" when oh my gosh, YOU helped give them ammo.
Sorry, but that's completely idiotic. You helped CREATE the drama then stand back and wag your finger like you're completely not a part of it. Drives me crazy you don't see, or aren't willing to take responsibility for, YOUR part in this whole nonsense. It's very sad.
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M5M5
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Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. How many times have they posted in the past month or 3 and I have remained silent. Yet...I see you and SRS pipe in EVERY time they post.
You should realize how completely idiotic you guys look.
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LexieBelle
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EVERY time M5? REALLLYYYY?????? Hmmm.. interestingly enough? I deliberately did NOT post to this thread until YOU posted YOUR post :):):):):)
Just sayin ;)
Thank you though.. I woulda bet my yearly salary that once Dumbo posted, you wouldn't be far behind.. thanks for proving my analysis dead on correct...
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ssmom79
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I already bet a years salary you'd be piping in yourself. Thanks! ;)
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LexieBelle
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Yup, I did.. I made 100 g's off my bet, how much did you make? ;)
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Arden
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M5M5, with all due respect I know where the court papers can be found online and I will admit I have read them. It was you that posted where they could be found that led me there.
It was back during one of those extremely nonsensical long threads. In some thread earlier BeachBabe had stated she had read court papers and knew what she was talking about. Remember, I am not a regular poster here so I do miss stuff. Anyway, I just more or less figured MrsB sent her papers until her friends started commenting on the fact Sampoe was a troll and was only reading and repeating what he read in the online court papers. At that point it didn't even remotely occur to me to look for them (I am lazy that way). Plus I didn't care enough one way or the other.
Then another thread started and maybe in your zest to defend and stick up for MrsB you did post the name of the site. Sitting home sick being completely bored, it perked my interest that time and I went to the site you posted. I was stunned by what I saw there.
Her exs full name, names of employers, her sons full name, the name of his school, addresses. Way too much information for me or anyone from here to know. On that information alone I could have easily contacted her ex. No, it was not me, but, someone else who obviously read there, did contact him. Trust me if I was able to find it any lurker on here could have.
Say what you want about Lexi, but her and I talk a lot. About our jobs, life, kids, my grandkids, exs, holidays, life in general but, never not once did she ever mention to me about those court papers being viewable on line. As much as we talk she never mentioned them to me at all. I mentioned it to her after you posted the site and I went there seeing those names and such and how it worried me for MrsB and she responded with something along the lines of yeah I know. So no, the information wasn't passed behind the scenes that time, at least for me...it was you that posted it.
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MrsB
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Would love for you to find where M5 posted it - because I'm rather certain, she did not.
Regardless - none of this behavior makes it OK.
It doesn't matter what you think of me, PM, or anyone else. For anyone to take the matter lightly, shows a complete lack of empathy. To my knowledge, nothing that personal about me has ever been publicly posted. Regardless - it gives no one the right to do what they have done. And anyone who excuses that behavior, loses a lot of respect in my book. Whether or not that matters - doesn't really matter. It is what it is. While the "troll" has attempted to make things difficult for me, and while PM and SRS and a few others keep feeding it...nothing has become of it, and they continue to lie.
The fact that anyone would take these people, who are apparently too cowardice by hiding behind fake names, seriously - especially by grown men and women who you think would have more sense, truly amazes me.
It's sad to see this continue to happen - not sad for myself, but sad for the fact so many people even care, and - not in the way those here care by contacting me privately - but those of you who even give the "trolls" the time of day or attempt to back up what they are saying, or excuse it.
I hope you never have to be in my position. Luckily - the judge couldn't care less. And as always - justice prevails, and what goes around comes around. And in the mean time - I truly feel sorry for those here who can't seem to move on. And some think I'm the one with the issues...
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nope
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It was Miranda that passed the site on to me through a post.
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"Reading a motion from the OK Court DOcket Lookup, OSCN, like it is fact is hilarious...
-------------------- 13.1...because I am only half crazy!"
M5M5 also mentions the very site in one of her post's in the same thread.
Edited by Miranda (03/06/11 08:31 PM)
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nope
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For you to say "The judge couldn't care less" is laughable. Why was it again that you were arrested? Yes, MrsB, when you sign off on a OR, with a trial date set, you were ARRESTED for failure to obey a courts DIRECT order. You are correct, justice does prevail.
Are you suppose to be posting at all about your court case on the internet? Even behind the doors?
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Sherron
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""Reading a motion from the OK Court DOcket Lookup, OSCN, like it is fact is hilarious...
-------------------- 13.1...because I am only half crazy!"
M5M5 also mentions the very site in one of her post's in the same thread.
Edited by Miranda (03/06/11 08:31 PM)"
Post the link to this.
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nope
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Miranda tries to pretend the ole' "who me?" M5M5 also spills the beans in the thread
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M5M5
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Arden, all due respect, you are wrong. I never posted the name of the site. Ever. Please feel free to prove me wrong. If you can, I will issue you an apology.
What I DID say, was that it was easy for the freaks to find her info on here because she had been too free (TRUSTED the wrong ppl) on here...and I may have even said that it was online. But NEVER did I mention the name of the site.
Really? I expected better of you than to falsely accuse me of something like this.
For the record, I didn't say PM was giving out all JL's info. I told her I wasn't surprised to see her pop in on this thread (AND the last one Sampson posted...she DID, go back and read..and I wasn't anywhere to be found in that one). That's it.
Kinda weird that you read the papers. Even I haven't read 98% of them.
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nope
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So, M5M5 you have been to the court site?
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M5M5
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You're right JL...maybe Arden can get her Search Queen friend PM there to find the post where I named the site your court papers were located on. They won't find it.
AAAAACKKCKKDKKKKKKK I hate when ppl post lies about me!! lol
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M5M5
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WHERE did I spill any effin' beans? I went thru the ENTIRE long thread...and I didn't see my posting private info at all. Put up or shut the hell up!
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MrsB
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I think you'll be waiting a while.. :)
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M5M5
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But of course. I'll not hold my breath!
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Sherron
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Miranda tries to pretend the ole' "who me?" M5M5 also spills the beans in the thread "
Still waiting for the link, that info is not in the link you posted, and the quote is even wrong... sounds made up, since no one can find where M5 or Miranda posted it...
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elliesmom
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And FTR - what nail? That thread was mostly about her not sending the kid off with her exMIL, which she was entitled to not do per their agreement.
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SockPuppet1
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You bet she has. So have the rest of the "freinds."
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Arden
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I don't see where I ever said this behavior is or was okay. I don't see where I have excused anyone either.
I stand by the what I said, there was a post by M5 that led me to look at your court papers. No, I don't think she posted it to lead people there. It was in one of those ridiculously long threads. It was towards the end when the thread was dying down. M5 had many posts in a row, where she was answering, defending you or challenging people/posts. Chances are if I had not been home sick for several days I probably would have never read it and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
I read most of the posts, posted today and I see where someone said Miranda posted the site. I honestly don't remember Miranda at all, so I don't think I read that post. But, yes it os possible M5 was answering or agreeing with her that led me to that page. I know what was posted was not a direct link and it had to be searched. Didn't take but a few minutes. I do remember some old of your husbands driving records popping up first though.
I remember it came after some hoopla about you posting at another site. You were acting like you had no idea what that was about and saying you would love to know just what site it was you were posting at. I remember M5 defending you and agreeing with you. That went on until someone had enough and basically said,, oh for crap sake, the site is, xxxx. I remember feeling bad for M5 that she played into you hands about that and then it was brought out there was a site and you were aware of it all along. I guess that is why I paid a little more attention to her posts. Maybe I was wrong about her, but at the time I felt she really didn't know you were posting elsewhere. When I saw that other post, I clearly remember feeling bad at the time thinking in her zest to defend you she unwittingly revealed where you court docs were.
Should I have looked...probably not, but I did and I am sure I am not the only one. Do I think it is alright that I know where they are, no. I was very uncomfortable with the amount of information available through them.
That is why I had to wonder why you kept on taunting, engaging and daring people to look things up, take their best shot, so to speak, contact your lawyer/ex and all that.
After poking the tiger aka troll over and over you tried to act surprised when it finally bit you. When you clearly were not innocent in any of it.
It seems to me like you were playing a very dangerous game, knowing the amount of information available to people. Even as far as the last thread you started here. I have read that e-mail to your ex and not one time was DS mentioned. Only facebook and your other sites. I thought it to very careless of you to draw the attention of that here, when DS was not even involved.
Then again, you know your life better than me and know what is best for you. But, the bottom line is, everything I have learned about you came from either you or one of your close friends and defenders. Not once have I ever heard or read anything from the ones you think are against you.
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Arden
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I wouldn't hold it either if I was you. Especially if you are waiting for me to look.
No way am I going to bother looking at any of those threads again. I couldn't even tell you which thread it was in. I have nothing to prove to anyone.
Plus more than once around here I have seen posts get edited. No I am not saying you have done it and I have never seen where you have. It is just there have been times I have started to comment on something and what I am commenting on seems to have disappeared from the original posting. For that reason alone, I personally think searching is a big waste of time.
I am not accusing you of anything. I know what I what I know and I know how I ended up at MrsB court records.
Everyone is so quick to claim their hands are clean, I was just showing you that is not always the case.
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SRS
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So, I guess the question of the day is "who hasn't read JLs online crap? Not who has."
Am I the only one who didn't care enough?
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M5M5
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Well, you are wrong (responding to both your posts to JL and me)...it was not me. I only said that with as much info that has been made available (and yes, we have already established that JL shared too much and trusted the wrong ppl), it would be easy for someone with the time and inclination to find her online documents. That's it.
Pretty sure the one you won't name is PM...isn't she the on that spilled the beans on the other site? I like how you want to take up for your friend...but in this case...she didn't need it as I said nothing about her sharing information. It was her jumping on me for daring to jump on a troll. But...keep right on excusing her bad behavior or ignoring it. It's all good.
I didn't think I'd get an apology after you specifically said I was the one that named the site.
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Sampoe
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[quote]So, I guess the question of the day is "who hasn't read JLs online crap? Not who has."
Am I the only one who didn't care enough? [/quote]
It paints a much different story than the one she has posted on here for years and years. It's like it's 2 different families, except the court records are much more accurate. It's a shame that she will loose custody to a man she hated to make the perfect family with her new husband, whom she no longer has. Poor poor kid.
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SRS
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That was actually easy to figure out by her postings over the years. No one can have that much drama induced by other people - and be totally innocent.
I was just amazed that so many people fell for it. I did, though, for the first couple of years I was here. But, where there's smoke there's fire.
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Arden
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M5, honestly I am not trying to pick a fight with you. First off I do like you and second as far as all the whatfor and whatnots I just don't care enough...however....
It might have been Lexi that said the name of the site, the honest reason I didn't say a name was because I couldn't remember who it was. If it was her I am sure she will say it was. If it wasn't I am sure she will be here to say that too, lol.
Yes, I do like LB. I however do not run around here blindly backing up or defending her in every post she makes. I don't need to. Of she gets her ass in a tight, she knows how to get it out or give it up. That is one of the things I do like about her. The reason I posted this time was because I knew first hand what I was talking about, since I am the one that went and read her court papers and I know how I got there.
You can wonder all you want why I like LB after (gasp) what she did to MrsB. It is because she owned up to it. She didn't hide or make a cutesy game out of it. When the jig was up she owned it. I respect that. She took and continues to take a beating over all that crap. Obviously she wasn't in it by herself, but the cowards who hid and still hide are not not ever mentioned. At this point you have to almost think she was PMing all that shyt to herself, because I sure never see any others taking the heat. Say what you want about me defending her, this is the first time I ever mentioned all that on here and it will probably be the last.
I see you feel the same way about MrsB, even though she has proved not to have strong sense of the truth. You like her in spite of that. I don't think I have ever questioned you or anyone else on why they like her.
Now let me ask you a question,
Why did you play along with MrsB's little game of,
"Wow I wonder what site I post on. I sure would like to know..........................."
I didn't think you played those kind of games. Finding out you do makes you kind of a disingenuous poster and I didn't think of that way.
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Sampoe
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Yes, even the man that married her fell for it, but he didn't stick around long.
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nope
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my favorite MrsB line was: "Yes I would like to know what I was arrested for and what I am being arraigned for???? I would like to know."
The Disney Dumbo could pull this off, not MrsB. It just made her look like an idiot, not dumb. Sadly, M5M5 came to rescue that time as well.
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M5M5
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I don't stick up for JL all the time either. We've had our disagreements, believe me (and it's public..on this very board). My point and question to you is...why did you feel the need to say what you did? I didn't tell PM that she was spreading info. The ONLY thing I said...ok, well I will just copy and paste:
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Obsessed much? Get.A.Life.Sad.Individual.
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I have to say, you're posting to this and saying THAT? Is really ridiculous. You are one who probably helped FEED these "obsessions" and helped make it POSSIBLE for these people to access court records and such.
Dumbo opened her fat trap and WELCOMED people going and looking at court docs and such and you and several others handed out site names like it was candy.
THEN you bytch on a post like this that whoever is "obsessed" when oh my gosh, YOU helped give them ammo.
Sorry, but that's completely idiotic. You helped CREATE the drama then stand back and wag your finger like you're completely not a part of it. Drives me crazy you don't see, or aren't willing to take responsibility for, YOUR part in this whole nonsense. It's very sad.
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Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. How many times have they posted in the past month or 3 and I have remained silent. Yet...I see you and SRS pipe in EVERY time they post.
You should realize how completely idiotic you guys look.
-------------------- I can't stand Liars. I'm always disappointed when a liar's pants doesn't catch on fire.
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Do you see where she jumped on me for telling a troll to get a life? What brought HER into it? NOTHING was said about sharing information. Period. I didn't start with her. So...your post makes no sense.
And to answer your question, I did not know there was another board until shortly before that thread. JL told me that she did post on another board but she didn't believe the trolls had that information. And if they DID have that information, she was wanting to know how they came by it since only a few ppl knew about them or where they were (if memory serves).
Does that satisfy you?
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Sampoe
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M5M5, I'm sure you have seen the records by now. Still want to stand behind a liar? Just asking. You have been fooled, had, and manipulated by a woman who has made up sooooo many stories about her ex husband on this board, and the other 2 for giggles. The court records prove this.
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MrsB
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<<And to answer your question, I did not know there was another board until shortly before that thread. JL told me that she did post on another board but she didn't believe the trolls had that information. And if they DID have that information, she was wanting to know how they came by it since only a few ppl knew about them or where they were (if memory serves). >>
Just to clarify - other than the one other person who posts there, the only other person who knew the exact board was PM.
So....yeah.
:)
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LexieBelle
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Blatant lie! By the time you invited me to go to Delphi there were SEVERAL other posters there. NOT including YAH who is the "one" other poster. Absolute lie. And I sooooooo wish I hadn't been guilted out of saving private messages because in the invite sge SAID, CLEARLY that they had invited certain people and that there were others from here... There.
Leegirl, I'm pretty sure focused, to name just a couple.
Edited by LexieBelle (01/23/12 08:16 PM)
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M5M5
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Sorry, I have not read any records, except one, and that was over a year ago I think.
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Sampoe
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LIAR! I've been posting there for years along with alot of others and YOU KNOW/KNEW THAT! Your stories just changed based on your audience.
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OMG: was it your private board? Only YOU could post on the 3 boards? Only YOU could invite people to other sites? MrsB you need a lesson on the World Wide Web. Your story was hard to miss on all 3 sites. Thousands of people visit Step Family boards every frigging day.
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SRS
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There are several posters on both boards. It is easy to figure out who's who.
They are more hostile to JL over there because of the stalking stuff and her tendancy to post so much about herself - even told her to get a blog instead of posting so selfishly.
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I know of the soccer mom, but I don't know her story except that she is always right and everyone better get that PDQ. Doesn't she call the school board a lot?
Oh and the lovely Miranda is there too.
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Sampoe
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[quote]Sorry, I have not read any records, except one, and that was over a year ago I think. [/quote]
Then you might want to! You are sticking up for a woman who has lied to 3 boards, has lied to the court so much that the judge had finally had enough and put in a SERIOUS contempt of court charge against her, for which she is now facing trial and will mostly likely loose custody of her kid. You want to support that? Oh, and the dad just wanted to be a dad. But you go on supporting her bs, most don't, including the judge.
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****Just to clarify - other than the one other person who posts there, the only other person who knew the exact board was PM.******
Liar Liar Liar...you know frigging well you brought Miranda AND the soccer mom there as well.
Can you ever just be truthful? Even when it is so simple to do so?
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SRS
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M. did let PM/LB have a go at JL after she accused her of stalking and banned her.
Yes, Miranda is there and so is the Soccer Mom.
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So, has her husband left her because of all the drama?
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[quote]Pretty sure the one you won't name is PM...isn't she the on that spilled the beans on the other site? [/quote]
-------------->>> Ehhhhh.. WRONG ANSWER!!! Arden has it 100% correct. Absolutely! I got the court site from the same thread she did. I won't bother retyping everything else she explained because it's the same. The long thread, the naming of the site essentially, JL daring people TO go look at the court site, your piping in as well.. all of it.
And Arden is also correct, we are NOT the only people that **I** know of who have gone and looked.
I will absolutely state that I went and specifically looked after JL implicated me, without necessarily naming me specifically HERE (but she did QUITE the number on me over at Delphi, to see JUST what I'd been accused of. Well, first of all what was sent to her ex didn't come from HERE, it came from THERE. NO question about it. And the person? And least POSED as a MAN.
So there it is.
Oh as for naming Delphi? Yeah, it's very possible it went down EXACTLY as Arden said. It was one of those "what? other site?? WTF are you talking about?????????" lies of JL's.. and it was being namby-bampy, tippytoed around so yup, I NAMED it. What's the problem????
I was NOT the "only other person besides the ONE person here" who was over there. and I wish to GOD, if I believed in such an entity, that I kept private messages because I'd sure as shyt post THAT private message because she was VERY CLEAR. They had an exclusive little group of people that (she made it sound like) that when "they" (insinuating her, with others) created the Delphi site, they chose to invite. For her to say anything other than that? is a baldfaced, out and out, patent LIE.
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Bunny, you told me about that board, and recommended that I join WAY before I found this cesspit of a message board. It wasn't until you did the things you did with b and b that I came here, and you know that!
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Not sure who "the soccer mom" is.. but yes, she is a LIAR. i would give my right arm to have the message where she invited me there!!!!!
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The Delphi board came from IVillage. THey talk about it regularly. THey didn't like the Admin stuff at IVillage so they migrated. It isn't exclusive at all.
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Sampoe
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LexieBelle, you have some spunk and I find you truthfull.
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Soccer Mom's kids play soccer (obviously). SHe posts the same soccer stories on both boards.
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Oh, not a DS poster then, one of the village people then, lol. "the village people".. lol.. I just cracked myself up!
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No. Soccer mom posts here and Delphi. The exact same soccer stories. Just cut and paste. She and her ex do get along.
ETA: I had a small bout of insomnia this past fall, so I'd read here and there in the middle of the night. Better than laying in bed.
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Sampoe
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From what I can tell, the scoccer mom is YAH, which is just as much a bully to her ex as Bunny. Except in Bunny's case, her ex is fighting back for his son.
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Yeah we all know this because you bring it up ALL THE FLIPPING TIME! It's obvious you just stalk the heck out of her on both boards. Jeez. Get a hobby.
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Ohhhhhhhhhh... duh... Okay... I was thinking that was a name, lol. Yes, what little I've ever been over there, and seen her post, they are exact cut and paste copies between here and there.
And thank you for your comment.
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When MrsB was on ivillage, same time I was, she was asking question on how to gather evidence that her boss was sexually harrassing her. They had a few romps and later she left the company. She did file suit against the comapny, but it was dismissed. She than returned to MrB and they kissed and made up.
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Are you saying the judge filed a contempt motion against her? Why should I go and read her files? I have a life and do not have time for it, frankly.
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Unless M5M5 you are on both boards how would you have that knowledge? Were you too "invited" over to Delphi?
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The judge had her ARRESTED!
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I can't speak to what you and JL discussed in private. I didn't say you named the court info...I KNOW you didn't. I was speaking of when you named the Delphi site. I was thinking it was Katie that named the court site.
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LOL, oh my.
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Sampoe
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[quote]Are you saying the judge filed a contempt motion against her? Why should I go and read her files? I have a life and do not have time for it, frankly. [/quote]
Yes, that IS EXACTLY what I am saying! If you have a busy life, then stop defending a person/cause that you know nothing about (if you haven't read the records). She does what she does best, lies! And the court has had enough.
I don't know your story M5M5 and I really don't care, but would you stick up for a parent that doesn't co-parent, withholds parenting time, lies to the court about income and now martial status? Would you?
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Knowledge of what? That SRS follows JL to the other board? Because SRS constantly posts abut it.
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SRS
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No, she wasn't invited. She's a wanna-be who will defend JL until she turns blue.
JL can steal, lie, and cheat but M5 will always have her back because JL is sweet and naive.
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I've never heard of a judge filing a contempt motion on someone. I mean...don't they just normally hold someone in contempt?
Why do you care so much what anyone on this site or the next says about their own life? What business is it of yours? I'm not going to go "seek out" the files. I don't care WHAT has been filed against her. The only thing that would matter is what a judge put in a CO.
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lol so you are God now? lollololololol
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I'm curious to know how a judge files contempt against someone too :). Hold them in contempt? Sure. (however, I have never been held in contempt of court - but, nice try for the trolls). But filing contempt against someone? Does that even make sense? Oh dear...not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed...
Of course anyone can *file* contempt on anyone. Doesn't really mean jack sh*t until they are *held* in contempt.
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[quote] Why should I go and read her files? I have a life and do not have time for it, frankly. [/quote]
No offense but.. then why are you defending her, if you don't know whether what Sampoe is saying is or isn't true? Particularly if you have a life, and don't have time for it?
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Honestly, if you truly have the real-life stalking and other bad situations going on in your life that are being posted about - I'd stay away from posting in the internet.
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Awe, sweetie - has your 7 year old gotten ahold of your computer logins again?
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Did you just type that? Oh my! You need to get therapy soon. Maybe the court should order that as well. You are totally off your rocker. You know damn well it is public record, yet you still say "What? What are you talking about?"
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Honestly, if you truly have the real-life stalking and other bad situations going on in your life that are being posted about - I'd stay away from posting on the internet.
You must be stupid to continue.
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I'm floored... completely floored...
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The judge issues the arrest warrent. Then poor little MrsB had to go to court (didn't show up) but was order to appear in the Judge's chambers to sign her OR. When you have to sign an OR means you were placed under arrest! The judge ordered it.
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I don't think JL is a bad person. Naive? Yes. Too trusting? Yes. Why do you believe Sampson? Have you read the documents? If you have, why don't you say so? Why don't you say whether Samson is right? Why doesn't Arden? Why doesn't anyone else except the trolls? Everyone seems to be basing their opinion on the word of TROLLS. I'm not likely to believe or trust them, but more power to anyone that does.
Just seems like a lot of effort for something that doesn't affect me. It's nothing for me to post on here, or FB. I'm assuming it would take a good bit of time to go thru years of documents.
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The other party files the application or motion for the court to issue a citation, but the judge issues the citation itself.. then the person who charged with contempt gets arraigned.... but you KNOW that already, don't you?
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SRS
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Not schizophrenia, but some other disorder perhaps?
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I cannot believe MrsB is still able to sit here and pretend she doesn't know what I am talking about. It is very simple and a open court record. She should not have a child to care for if she doesn't remember being arrested. How awful.
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Sampoe
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Please don't act dumb! No, the judge didn't file contempt charges against you, your boy's father did, and the judge was in agreement with the evidence, thus, he set it for trial. But you know that already, so why the games about it? Own it!
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I already answered that question in one of these threads.. so did Arden. So no, I'm not basing my opinions off trolls.
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my words: But, the bottom line is, everything I have learned about you came from either you or one of your close friends and defenders. Not once have I ever heard or read anything from the ones you think are against you. _________________________-
That is why I posted. _____________________________
So you did know that MrsB was posting on another site and that was just a little slapstick routine you came up with to what, amuse yourselves? Trick posters who were putting real time thoughts into answers?
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----But, the bottom line is, everything I have learned about you came from either you or one of your close friends and defenders. Not once have I ever heard or read anything from the ones you think are against you.
This.
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[quote]I don't think JL is a bad person. Naive? Yes. Too trusting? Yes. Why do you believe Sampson? Have you read the documents? If you have, why don't you say so? Why don't you say whether Samson is right? Why doesn't Arden? Why doesn't anyone else except the trolls? Everyone seems to be basing their opinion on the word of TROLLS. I'm not likely to believe or trust them, but more power to anyone that does. [/quote]
Why doesn't Arden answer what? If you are asking if what Sampoe is saying is in fact in the court documents, the answer is, yes. What he is posting about those is true. As far anything else personal about her marriage and whatnot, I have no idea.
Now I have to ask, have you REALLY not read the docs or is this just another "What site" routine? Serious question.
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If it hasn't been to trail yet, how was she arrested? Doesn't she have to be "found in contempt" to be arrested? How long was she locked up?
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I must have missed that. All I saw Arden say was that she read the documents. That's it.
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What the heck are you talking about?? You asked if I knew about the other boards...I said I found out during that thread or right before (sorry, I don't remember).
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I've not read the documents...just the one from a year or so ago that she filed. Now, since you have read the documents...is there a court order with all this? Or is it just her ex filing and accusing her of stuff? Was she found to be in contempt by the judge? Did the judge have her arrested?
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So - what you're saying is - anyone can claim anything. Anyone can put anything in a court document and file it with the courts.
Not sure what you have seen or haven't seen - but if you're saying I've been held in contempt, and had to pay attorney fees for this BS, etc....it's a load of crap.
The fact that anyone takes any of these trolls seriously is hilarious.
Yes - there is absolutely some truth to what has been posted by them - and a whole whole bunch of outright lies.
Why anyone really cares the differences is beyond me. But hey - whatever floats your boat.
I can file a document accusing you of anything I want to accuse you of, and it will show up online on our court records - doesn't mean jackcrap, unless a judge has anything to say about it.
We can play the "oh JL is so awful" and her "ex is oh so great" all we want to. It's rather comical.
Am I perfect? Nope. Never claimed to be. But, nor will I explain myself to a bunch of bored losers who have nothing better to do than twist the truth and take a pathological liar's word to heart.
Seriously, it's become comical.
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<<If it hasn't been to trail yet, how was she arrested? Doesn't she have to be "found in contempt" to be arrested? How long was she locked up? >>
Yup - just one tiny example of one of their outrageous lies. Nope - haven't been found in contempt. Nope - haven't had to pay any of his court fees (which he doesn't have to pay any at all, anyway). And nope - haven't been to jail!
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<<I've not read the documents...just the one from a year or so ago that she filed. Now, since you have read the documents...is there a court order with all this? Or is it just her ex filing and accusing her of stuff? Was she found to be in contempt by the judge? Did the judge have her arrested? >>
No, and No. :)
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She just further clarified it.. so no, she's not basing anything off trolls either.
the other questions are just silly.. it's a family court thing, it's not a criminal charge. You're not "arrested"... the court issues a citation, you show up to be "arraigned", they let you go on your own word assuming you're not gonna blow off a family court trial; HOWEVER, if you didn't show up? Yup, a bench warrant would be issued because if you don't show, that's a violation of your bond ("release").. This is just in general, not referring to her specifically but it "should" apply the same to her case.
I mean, this is pretty standard family court stuff... in terms of process. Those who have seen the docs know what for and some have posted.. in not necessarily exact terms and maybe with a little heat/tone.. but it is what it is.
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SRS
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If you truly have this much IRL drama happening because of stuff from the internet - stop.
Really - just stop.
Pick up a book or watch a little tv. Go for a run.
Get off the internet and stop posting details about your life.
If your life is being torn to crap because of a few supposed trolls, then stop posting.
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[quote]<<I've not read the documents...just the one from a year or so ago that she filed. Now, since you have read the documents...is there a court order with all this? Or is it just her ex filing and accusing her of stuff? Was she found to be in contempt by the judge? Did the judge have her arrested? >>
No, and No. :) [/quote]
Wow. And Wow..
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M5M5 are you back woods people? People go to trial AFTER they are arrested, not before.
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Sampoe
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M5M5, despite what MrsB is going to say to you is not important. Go read the records and you will find that she is being 'held in contempt' on some pretty SERIOUS charges. The judge reviewed the evidence and decided that the evidence was too strong to dismiss (clear cut dry evidence) and set it for trial. Will she be held in contemp after the trial? YEA WITHOUT A DOUBT BASED ON HER OWN ACTIONS AND PROBLEMS. Will she have to pay ex's attorney fees? Yeah that probably too. Will she loose custody of the boy, not likely but it will go to 50/50 with the court and other agencies watching her and looking out for the boy. Sorry, but it's true. Everthing she told you about her ex and the relationship he 'wanted' with is son was a complete lie.
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I think the issue is wording/phrasing.
It's coming across like she's already been found guilty of contempt, which isn't what I think you're trying to say. A citation is not a conviction. it means there's enough, in the judge's eyes, to warrant trial. And you issue a bond in order to ensure the accused's appearance AT trial. In criminal court, that bond would be either personal recognizance or money, depending on the severity. In family court, it'd be typically personal recognizance given the low level of "crime". Also, given the low level of "crime", you wouldn't be "arrested".. they'd schedule an arraignment or appearance and you'd be expected to appear and plead. They don't typically waste taxpayers money running around arresting people for contempt citations to appear in court. Just sayin' :)
Perhaps that will make it clearer to M5...
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The judge was an idiot to belive him over her
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Ok, so you're saying she failed to show up to court so the judge issues a bench warrant?
Yep, it's family court. All kinds of accusations, true or not, fly in family court. It's a downright dirty place at times.
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Really? Tell that to my husband's ex. She went to jail AFTER trial.
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Is there a COURT ORDER, with the judge's signature on it, that says she IS in contempt? Or is a a PETITION for contempt?
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LOL. I didn't "fail" to show up anywhere :). But nice try ladies.
Man - they sure haven't been this fiesty of all the times XH was held in contempt and didn't show up for hearings :).
So yeah...for the record? I have never been held in contempt. Have they petitioned it? Sure. As have I. Many times, for reasons that actually have meaning and for actually going against a CO.
No bench warrant. Not in contempt of anything. But yes, they've tried. :) And they have failed. :)
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Seriously M5, if you are this interested in what is going on, go read it for yourself. You can then draw your own conclusion. Why are expecting people her to spoon feed it to you?
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Mmmm another LIE. I have never had a bench warrant issued against me.
This is funny :)
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<<Seriously M5, if you are this interested in what is going on, go read it for yourself. You can then draw your own conclusion. Why are expecting people her to spoon feed it to you? >>
There are several people who have read the same thing and still come to extremely different conclucions. Take for example what you and PM believe to be true, vs. those of my friends or who are involved in real life.
It's all about perception, apparently. To those who aren't actually involved. *which would be every single one of you*
Even so. Facts are facts. Don't know WTH you even care, but hey, doesn't matter to me.
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One question.. did YOU know about the arraignment?
Simple yes or no will do.
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You people can't READDDDDDDDD!!!!!!
Slowly now... if one is on BOND.. which Personal Recognizance, PRE TRIAL, is BOND, and one does NOT APPEAR AT TRIAL.. then a BENCH WARRANT WILL BE ISSUED! Bond is SUPPOSED to ensure one's appearance at trial. NO ONE said you had a bench warrant ALREADY issued against you. One WOULD be if you fail to appear at trial. Particularly since you have you have used your own self (OR/PR) as the surety that you WILL appear at trial.
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If you truly have this much IRL drama happening because of stuff from the internet - stop.
Really - just stop.
Pick up a book or watch a little tv. Go for a run.
Get off the internet and stop posting details about your life.
If your life is being torn to crap because of a few supposed trolls, then stop posting.
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No, have no idea if there was an arraignment or not.
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[quote]Is there a COURT ORDER, with the judge's signature on it, that says she IS in contempt? Or is a a PETITION for contempt? [/quote]
There was enough evidence against MrB, (despite her attorney's pleas in court and writtings) that the judge (who hates the ex) set it for MrsB to stand trial.
So, she is standing trial in the family court for not following court orders. Normally, a judge here would just tell you to stop it, but this crap with MrsB has been going on long enough and set her for a trial on her behavior.
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Do you have short term memory loss?
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Ok, so there is no court order, there is just a trial date...which we already knew about. Jeez.
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[quote]<<Seriously M5, if you are this interested in what is going on, go read it for yourself. You can then draw your own conclusion. Why are expecting people her to spoon feed it to you? >>
There are several people who have read the same thing and still come to extremely different conclucions. Take for example what you and PM believe to be true, vs. those of my friends or who are involved in real life.
It's all about perception, apparently. To those who aren't actually involved. *which would be every single one of you*
Even so. Facts are facts. Don't know WTH you even care, but hey, doesn't matter to me. [/quote]
Umm that is exactly why I told her go read and draw her own conclusion.
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[quote]Ok, so there is no court order, there is just a trial date...which we already knew about. Jeez. [/quote]
Do you have ANY IDEA what this trial is about? Because it has NOTHING to due with custody, visitation, child support or martial debt! I almost feel sorry for you M5M5, I feel that you have come in at the end of the movie.
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There was and she has had to sign a bond before her trial. Her trial has nothing to do with the CS or custody battle. It has to do with her recent failure to abide to the courts order. Are you just playing stupid? Or are you really stupid? She signed her own bond. People normally don't sit in jail waiting for a trial. Where do you live?
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[quote]No, have no idea if there was an arraignment or not. [/quote]
Okay, soooo, do you remember the conversation you and I had about lying? And what constitutes lying? And I asked you, if someone knew that they had an arraignment, but yet pretended NOT to know about one, would that be a lie.. and you said "yes, that would be a lie". I was very specific if you recall.
Soooo, we know there WAS an arraignment. It's not a question, it's a fact. Sooo, the fact she pretended to have NO idea what was going on.. (oh but now we ALL know and apparently have known there's a trial.. which is news to me, b/c she vehemently denied all this was even happening, it was a figment of a troll's imagination) is NOT a lie?
Very simply.. she KNEW what the "troll" posted was at least partially (really mostly) true.. but feigned ignorance. That's not a lie to you? Where DO you draw the line M5 and why WON'T you look at the documents? Afraid to find out just how many lies your "friend" tells?
Arden's right.. go look for yourself. Don't play this stupid game, it makes you look REALLYYYYYYY stupid. You do, you look idiotic at this point. She lied. Period. She knew the night before her arraignment there WAS an arraignment. She had NO reason to even acknowledge it.. just IGNORE it. No can do, she HAD to respond and she HAD to lie. Why? What mental illness causes that level of compulsive lying? And she is compulsive. Period. Her ex may lie? But I doubt the law guardian does.
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Cliff Notes - motion about anything posted on any websites was sustained. Trial date pushed back 5 months. No one has been held in contempt, no arraignments...although if there is one, it will not be on me, LOL, for I am not in contempt of anything the judge has ordered.
Of course, there's more to life than what is posted on that site, so I can see how some idiots may not realize that.
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Where DO you draw the line? Don't play this stupid game, it makes you look REALLYYYYYYY stupid.
She had NO reason to even acknowledge it.. just IGNORE it. No can do, she HAD to respond and she HAD to lie. Why? What mental illness causes that level of compulsive lying? And she is compulsive. Period.
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SHe has to respond. It is the oddest thing I've ever seen. And I have worked for almost 2 decades with Psych inpatients.
If a person really has all of these problems caused by internet postings, you'd think they'd stop. But, she can't.
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" What mental illness causes that level of compulsive lying? And she is compulsive. Period"
I believe this issue will be addressed by the court by 2/12.
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I could care less. I do not eat, breath and crap JL like you do, obvious. Nor are we BFFs. JL must have SEVERAL subscribers on her court documents. I mean, for all of you to be so caught up on what's going on.
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[quote]Cliff Notes - motion about anything posted on any websites was sustained. Trial date pushed back 5 months. No one has been held in contempt, no arraignments...although if there is one, it will not be on me, LOL, for I am not in contempt of anything the judge has ordered.
You, lady need some serious help! I'm speechless! Of course, there's more to life than what is posted on that site, so I can see how some idiots may not realize that. [/quote]
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Are YOU stupid? I never said you had to sit in jail waiting trial. YOU said she was arrested. She hasn't found to be in contempt of anything, and until she is...shut up.
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Yes I recall our conversation regarding what constitutes a lie.
She's always said that there is some truth to what the trolls post, but it's mixed in with a bunch of lies.
ETA: And the trial thing? I assumed it was the visitation/CS trial.
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There was no arrignment? What???? What????? the court clerk made it all up??? The judge is a liar?????
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Your attorney entered a Not Guilty Plea. Why would he do so, if there was no arrignment?
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Mmm.. NO, she did NOT.. NOT about the arraignment. it's VERY simple M5. You should remember our conversation it was very specific and I used that exact thing as an example. And you said, very clearly that YES, if someone KNEW there was x going on and yet PRETENDED TO NOT KNOW that x was going on that YES, that would constitute a lie.
Are you now denying that?
If NOT, then, your friend LIED. Period. End of discussion. When the post was made by the "troll" that she was being arraigned, her response was QUITE clear. TOTAL "I don't have any idea what you're talking about". Should I find it and post it again? It wasn't any question of "some of it's right some of it's wrong". On the matter of the arraignment, it is VERY VERY CRYSTAL clear and that's why, in our discussion on lying and defending liars, I used that as the example. I already knew what was fact before I asked you the question.
So.. either she lied, or she did not.. Which is it? Because the FACT is, that she HAS been "arraigned". The wording is crystalline clear. Whether trolls lie or do not lie.. court minutes do NOT.
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ETA: And the trial thing? I assumed it was the visitation/CS trial.
that would be correct :)
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So, what crime is she being charged for?
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I feel the same way, ssmom. And I tell ya what, sometimes it drives me plum crazy not knowing who the guilty party is. I mean...we can think and guess all day, but...no one really knows. I have some ideas who it is, but that's all they are. Ideas.
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I'd love to know too:).
---------------------------------------- So I suppose you could squirrel out of it saying "well there's no CRIME per se" but we all know what was said, and what she said which is right there "I'd love to know too", like she had NO idea what the troll was posting about...
Soooo, did she have no idea and would love to know? Or did she know EXACTLY what it was and played like the troll was lying.. which they weren't, SHE was.
Which is it? Seriously.. Which is it?
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[quote]SHe has to respond. It is the oddest thing I've ever seen. And I have worked for almost 2 decades with Psych inpatients.
If a person really has all of these problems caused by internet postings, you'd think they'd stop. But, she can't. [/quote]
-----------Ditto your ITA! And I'll see you an AMENNNN!!!
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I've stayed away from your mess....I've kept my mouth shut...but I got to say this....without a doubt you have got to be the most stupid individual I have ever seen. Why the hell you still post is beyond me.... You've dragged so many people through hell with acqusations of stalking, obsessions....etc. you seriously need mental help. I can't believe what all I am reading...how do all these people know your life?? Why do you do this to yourself.....dear god, you are an idiot....
Okay, I'm done....carry on
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No, I am not denying it now and I still agree with what I said to you before.
I just wasted like an 1.5 hour of good sleep time.
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Well...maybe I'm slow or just really really tired...but it looks to me like she said "I'd love to know too" in response to my question/statement about how I would love to know who the guilty party is...meaning, who the trolls are. Since she replied to me right after I said that.
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Sorry M5, you're wrong. I just double checked to make 100% sure. Her reply was made to your "crime charged with" post. No question. It's right there in the "Thanks!" thread where she announced her ex was contacted.
Soooooo... by your admission above, pretending to not know something you DO know, she DID lie. Correct? It's very simple.
She won't tell the whole truth about the contempt either. It would make her look bad. So she will go along with the assumption it's about withholding visitation from her scumbag ex. Not quite.
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Ok, before hitting the sack, just wanted to reply and say I went and checked too, and you are right...she did say that in response to my "what was she charged for" question. Sorry. If one says they know something and one really does know something, yes...that would be a lie.
BTW, I said I just wasted a few hours. I read the court documents...kinda felt compelled to since no one would SPOON FEED it to me (thanks Arden..I now have a headache this big { } ).
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I'm so lost....so what is the contempt for? If its not for withholding. Why would she low when so many people have access to her records? None of this or her makes sense. It's a trainwreck.
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She has not been found guilty of anything, for the record, that I can see. She was charged with contempt. An arraignment gives an accused person the right to hear the charges for which he or she is being prosecuted. Arraignment is the initial and first appearance before a judge where he reads the official charges against the defendant and he/she enters a plea (in this case Not Guilty). She has not been convicted of anything...she has not been "found in contempt".
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Thank you M5.
Sorry u wasted hours, unfortunately, it's not her place or mine to potentially sway you with our perception of what's there.
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And - did you read what I was charged contempt for? Not being able to pay the GAL yet, which he has not completed either :). And that was not even filed by the GAL, but by his attorney.
If that's the worst thing I can be held in contempt for...well, alrighty.
And no - I have not been charged with anything. I have not been freaking arrested. I haven't even set foot in that court room in over a year.
Like I said - anyone can file anything they want, and claim anything they want. Doesn't make it true, nor does it make it valid to the judge.
The truth ALWAYS comes out in the end.
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my words: But, the bottom line is, everything I have learned about you came from either you or one of your close friends and defenders. Not once have I ever heard or read anything from the ones you think are against you. _________________________-
That is why I posted. _____________________________
So you did know that MrsB was posting on another site and that was just a little slapstick routine you came up with to what, amuse yourselves? Trick posters who were putting real time thoughts into answers?
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This is late in the game, but I feel as though the reason why anyone can look up JL's court documents goes wayyyyy back. Way back when someone (eta: not a "friend" or "defender") splashed JL's real name and her X's name on this site. How else would anyone be able to look up the information? Either you were FB friends with her or saw her name splashed on here and looked it up.
As far as the "other board" from what I remember someone asked is there a board that you ALL- like there was a group of us- the very clique we all get accused of being part of- go to? JL answered with no, that there isn't. Just because SHE and maybe two other people go to another board doesn't mean we all do. It was in that context, I didn't even check out the other board until maybe a month ago. I wasn't invited- I remember years back people talking about ivillage, however there wasn't a "group" here that was part of the other board. And even if I remember correctly it was always just JL and YAH that sometimes visited another board- I never knew about anyone else.
As for the current stuff- well obviously, if someone knows JL's info they can look up her case. It's public information. I was already informed by JL about the current situation and when a trial was set for. I didn't need all the details and like anyone who has been to court in the past- your X can ask for anything and they often do. It does not mean it will be granted.
It just saddens me that this many people have no problem getting involved in someone else's child custody/CS dispute. That so many people went and read the documents and that there is a push to prove that every little thing JL says has some form of dishonesty to it. Is it really THAT important to a bunch of strangers???
Lastly, I would LOVE for SRS to take her own advice and ONLY post on topics where she has been in those shoes worn by the one the trolls post about. Where are her little rescuers reminding HER that it isn't right to kick someone when they are down or make light of situation? You just end up looking as more foolish than you suggest JL is.
I really had hoped this board to get back to be a support forum and maybe those you who cannot stand certain posters would just stop trying to out them? In the end, what good does it do? Do you feel vindicated? Can you sleep a little better at night knowing all you do after reading the court documents? In having doing so or writing about it- has it changed your life any? One would assume not. So why waste all this space? Get back to the little things- we all have children/spouses or family to love and be grateful for. Can the disdain for JL be inferior to the fact that she has a child in the midst of all this? Can't people let it go for the sake of the child? The court will figure out what needs to be done in the eyes of the law and as for the rest- we each answer to ourselves, our families and God, if we so choose.
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Thank you Cassie. Excellent post.
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No, Arden didnt' send me the link. I was just commenting on when she said she wouldn't spoon feed it to me.
Yes, I saw what you were charged with and I still stand by what I said...you were not convicted of anything or found guilty of contempt.
Ppl are making it out to be more than what it is.
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Well said, Cassie.
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JL got the attntn she wntd, ddnt she?
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Thank you yes I deleted that part about Arden sending it to ya :). Realized you could have found it yourself.
That's the thing - it's very clear I have not been charged with anything - those who have seen it are allowing the trolls to say it's more than what it is. I have never been found in contempt of anything - can't say the same for him.
And really, I suppose it doesn't matter. Cassie is 100% correct. There is so much more to this than a few angry internet bullies trying to prove me wrong, or make me look bad. This is my real life - and there are real children involved. I don't know why anyone cares so much - but those who know me, and know the situation, know there is much more to a few documents someone can view online. I really don't need anyone's validation. Although I appreciate you saying that M5.
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Shew girl...it took me a while to find it, let me tell ya. Anyone that interested to go and search it out (cuz I didn't remember your ex's last name or anything like that)...has mental problem. Took forEVER and like I said...I wound up with a huge headache. I feel like I should have found more than what I did...like evidence of abuse or something ya know? Something really really bad. And I didn't find anything really really bad...you can find worse than that in my DH and his ex's ginormous file. Alot worse.
ETA: I'm pretty much done with these threads. It's just ridiculous how much time some spend on this, especially when it doesn't even affect them IRL. I never should have said anything in the first place to the troll in the first place.
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LOL. Well - and as I"m sure you know, not everything is on there - discovery, correspondence, etc...
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Yeah, I noticed that.
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(And just to clarify - the reason they filed a motion to compel our discovery was b/c we were possibly going to settle on something outside of court...that didn't end up happening, so it delayed the discovery responses on our end - not to mention, 5 years of crap takes a while to get together ;) ).
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WHHYYY are you still here? Does it not bother you that you have people you don't know who they are PROVIDING this board with this information?? I mean MY GOD woman.. are you really this stoopid? here I am, been accused by you for over 2 years now of harrassing and stalking.. I've been accused of being all these people... and I no NOTHING about your situation... ONLY to find out that these people MUST know something about you.... and have told the board... AND you continue to provide information... You beat all I've ever seen JL.. seriously, you are f*cked up.
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Okay... does it not baffle you in the least that she is still here... posting? I mean.. if people had all that type of info on you... and you don't know who it is.. wouldn't you just kind of walk away? Quietly? I don't get HER posting... and playing a victim... and playing stupid..don't get it... and I can't feel sorry for her... it's HER own flipping fault.
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I don't think she has the mental capabilities to walk away or she just enjoys being the center of attention.
She's not naive, trusting, or any of those other words that her posse uses to describe Saint JL. She has to be stoopid.
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I think she does know who they are. It is amazing that she and Miranda post almost immediately after they post, isn't it? They both say that they never come here anymore, but they just "happen" to catch the trolls posting. Each and every time.
Coincidences? Each and every time.
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I don't get it either. It just makes no sense that she replies at all NOR does it make any sense that she always "just happens" to be around when these posters post. I'm not a believer in coincidences in general and even less so when the "coincidence" is a regular event.
I believe she's compulsive, victim complex, and an attention seeker. It's very sad but like Runs said it's impossible to feel sorry for her at this point since she's truly created this drama, fed this drama, and continually perpetuated this drama.
For me, I'm just tired of being blamed for it.
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Cassie,
To answer a few of your questions..
First of all, yes there WAS a little clicque that was "invited". JL made that crystal clear when she sent me MY invite.
Second of all, I wouldn't have gone and looked at the court stuff EXCEPT that JL herself bashed me here, and much worse over on Delphi. Sooo, since I supposedly contacted her ex? I figured I'd better go find out what I said :):)
Seriously.. The woman CREATES HER OWN DRAMA. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE on this site or any other would have any of her information if.. and wait for it.. SHE didn't hand it out like it was fvcking Pez to children. At what point DO you hold HER responsible for the fact that this is out there by HER doing?
Allll she had to do was keep her mouth shut.. Or at least close it a teensy bit. It's completely insane what she's done. And continues to do. It baffles any semblance of logic. Really.
You can excuse it, that's great. I won't. Particularly not when I'm her personal blame target. She's a mentally ill woman and she really should seek help.
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Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling (1 Peter 4:8-9).”
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law (Galatians 5:22)
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handing it out like f*cking pez to children.. .OMG.. I just spit my water out my nose on that one.. I think that is your best line yet.. seriously... I needed that laugh today. thanks!
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Hmm.. I'm not religious, if you recall so biblical quotes don't do much more than irritate the crap out of me :)
However, relative to the first one? I think lots of people here offered her "hospitality" by believing her and what'd she do? Lied. Repeatedly.
The second one... mentions "self-control". Perhaps you should post that to MrsB.. she should have used some..
One other quick note.. these are both from the Old Testament are they not? Which is interesting b/c in the Old Testament? God was pretty fricken vengeful a bastard wasn't he? And his love didn't "cover" the sins of Adam and Eve, now did it? Otherwise, he wouldn't have cast them out of Eden.
Just sayin'.... it's kinda amusing to see religious quotes that the God in which they come from.. supposedly.. doesn't abide by them himself.
Sorry, whatever you hoped to accomplish with them.. Epic FAIL.
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Glad I could oblige ;)
Seriously though.. NOW we find out.. how many pages into this thread? Ohhhh yesss.. people HAVE known. Oh how is that? Ohhhhh yesssss... JL TELLS THEM!!
And so, all along, these people KNEW and knew she LIED when she pretended to have NO idea what the "trolls" were talking about. Oh that's right, she might.. 5 threads in to being caught in the lie admit there's "some truth" to things. BAER.
I think what annoys me even more than her at this point? Is the people who see nothing wrong in her behavior and worse, DEFEND it. Note to you folks.. your friend? Has a PROBLEM. You're not HELPING her. She is an emotional addict and you are all ENABLING her sick behavior. You're not doing her a favor, you are HURTING HER. Stop. If you were her friends? Every time she engages in this you would post publicly.. I love you, I'm your friend, STOP. Delete that post.. STOP. Don't argue it and defend it and encourage HER to keep posting. Tell her to STOP. She's ILL. She's an attention addict. It's obvious she cannot help herself. Stop enabling her. And that IS all you are doing.. particularly you M5. Stop. Don't post, don't argue.. let it go.
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I don't think they see it that way, LB. They think she's innocent and trusting. Yes, she is trusting and dumb.
She trusted her friends with her information and they betrayed that trust. Her "friends" posted her information all over the internet for everyone to see. Sent PMs about her and forwarded things around.
They must enjoy watching her being stalked by the supposed stalkers.
You are right. True friends would tell her to stop posting personal information about herself, her family, and her court cases on the internet.
True friends also wouldn't show up every single time a "troll" posts. Coincidences happen once maybe twice. Not everytime the trolls post.
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Ditto, hallelujah and amen!
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LB, that was a quick reply. It was to EVERYONE. Fail? Um OK. So what I hoped to accomplish was another gentle reminder to everyone. Coming from a pretty objective person, who has little to nothing to do with the issues at hand. Pretty sure I did that. So your epic fail comment appears to have failed.
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Ah... since you replied to my post and didn't specify it was a general statement, I assumed (since you don't usually "quick reply") that it was specifically directed.
Since it was meant generally, then yes, my comments relative to an overall fail would be inappropriate/inaccurate. For me, personally, the posting failed since I find religion (and thus, religious quotes) to be exceedingly hypocritical.
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BTW, come on LB you of all people should know that I'm not speaking directly to you...I KNOW you aren't religious. You (collective) could definitely apply those things in life without being religious though, which is why I left the other quotes SRS posted out of my comment. Just something to think about after a thread went on for days spreading the hate and animosity.
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Thank you LB and this would be why I don't usually do QR's and why I usually add the general reply disclaimer...oops. I missed all my usual means to inform others of my intent!
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But see... I did that a year ago and I was a big ole bully and mean... and then I became a stalker who created multiple names... LOL....
They are enabling her.. period. I've stayed out of her posts for over 6 months now... I don't know whats going on in her life and haven't really cared...
but honestly... to those of you that "are" her friends... please.. seriously.. help her. If you all do like her, love her.. and trust her.. please tell her to stop giving out information.. I mean.. I knew NOTHING of whats going on.. and she laid it out for me and everyone last night.. WHY would she do this "if" she's a victim? Please, someone try to figure out that logic.
I'm done on this whole mess.. I've spent 6 posts that I can't get back... I feel badly for her family, her child... she's just messed up.
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Theorists believe that self-control (particularly low self-control) comes from ineffective parenting (Merton in particular) and it also comes from one's environment especially an environment that lacks non-economical institutions such as the church, schools, the role of a homemaker etc...
Individuals who are "right fighters" and have to "have the last word" tend to have low self-control. It is an effort to try to get ones validation by what ever means necessary and the need to get heard is first and foremost - it is not enough to know that within ones self that they know they are correct and that he/she can be self confident in simply "knowing" he/she wants others to know as well - so much so that he/she will continue to try and be heard.
Attention seeking is the the need to be validated. Continued seeking of validation generally comes from childhood; the child did not get his/her needs met by his/her role models, namely the parental role model but teachers and peers play a significant role as well. Seeking validation also comes from low self-esteem, which also stems from the lack of parental involvement and/or overtly degrading parenting in combination with the child's environment. It also comes from traumatic events in childhood for which the child did not receive the adequate attention, affection, ect... during said traumatic event(s) (my example would be my fathers death and my mother not attending to us in the way we needed - I had self-esteem issues for a long time - counseling worked wonders - we all need to know we are accepted and validation allows that and for the building of self-esteem). I am not saying anyone had this childhood - it is what research has found through an abundance of studies.
I am not trying to educate anyone but I am perplexed about the continued personal postings that can (imo) endanger ones life and/or God forbid the lives of children.
I tend to agree with the others when it comes to the continued posting of personal information in a precarious situation. Personally, I would stop with the personal related court information - In this day and age I would be incredibly nervous if so many knew my real name, addresses, etc...
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Great post annieo....;o)
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General question:
Has she actually posted anything new that was personal? I'm seeing the trolls posting things and her laughing and pointing at them and everyone else, but nothing of substance on her situation. What am I missing?
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I don't think they see it that way, LB. They think she's innocent and trusting. Yes, she is trusting and dumb.
She trusted her friends with her information and they betrayed that trust. Her "friends" posted her information all over the internet for everyone to see. Sent PMs about her and forwarded things around. --------------------------------------------
I wish you would stop posting about something you know NOTHING about and were NOT here at the time it happened. Someone who was NOT her friend posted her personal information on here. Someone that said they would post her information, someone that should have NOT known her information, someone that JL did not like and they did not like her... Once JL said she wouldn't accept their help to buy plane tickets then they splashed her personal information out on the site. Then it started...where did they get that info from? And I still say it was because of FB- that NON friend was friends with one of her friends and JL's personal name was seen.
Just like how YOU- SRS- invited JL to be your friend on FB! A non friend used her personal info and that is how it got out.
So the trolls start and funny enough SRS you are almost ALWAYS right behind the trolls that post. So it's okay for you to say what you want- but then a friend of JL's kicks in or JL herself and she is stupid for posting anything? The trolls already have JL's info- they can already look up her public information. ANYONE on FB can look up yours SRS. JL could look up yours if she remembers your name. BUT would she go on here and spread your private info? Could someone else had seen your FB profile and seen your name on one of their lists of friends? This is before people really started using the privacy features FB had.
Regardless, you all sit there and bait her...calling her names and then when she does stand up for herself you call her stupid for posting. It's like you get a kick out of it. If you think it's BEST for her not to post-- STOP posting to her. Yet you all can't because it is part of your sick need to be part of something. Probably because your real life lacks any kind of luster.
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Cassie,
To answer a few of your questions..
First of all, yes there WAS a little clicque that was "invited". JL made that crystal clear when she sent me MY invite.
Second of all, I wouldn't have gone and looked at the court stuff EXCEPT that JL herself bashed me here, and much worse over on Delphi. Sooo, since I supposedly contacted her ex? I figured I'd better go find out what I said :):)
Seriously.. The woman CREATES HER OWN DRAMA. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE on this site or any other would have any of her information if.. and wait for it.. SHE didn't hand it out like it was fvcking Pez to children. At what point DO you hold HER responsible for the fact that this is out there by HER doing?
Allll she had to do was keep her mouth shut.. Or at least close it a teensy bit. It's completely insane what she's done. And continues to do. It baffles any semblance of logic. Really.
You can excuse it, that's great. I won't. Particularly not when I'm her personal blame target. She's a mentally ill woman and she really should seek help. -----------------------------------------
IMO She is being held responsible for posting too much info and for not keeping her life private. She doesn't have to answer to ME- if I feel like I need to say something to her, I do in PRIVATE. I wouldn't choose to berate her on here in front of all the hungry wolves- just as I am sure you wouldn't do the same to Arden or KK.
One thing I have noticed repeatedly from you LB is your need to try and make ME see what you see. You will keep throwing out there that her friends are excusing her behavior or we are just as much to blame because we didn't do this or that. I learned long ago you cannot control what others choose to do. It's a lesson I teach my daughter, almost weekly, regarding her friends. Even in the past when this ALL started you wanted to look at the PMs you had saved because it would PROVE the truth. I didn't want to and when I told you so- you went on and on about my weak character. It's almost as if you feel the need to pull out whatever stops you can to CONVINCE me to do or see as you do. I may agree with you and at other times, I may not. I actually respect some of your viewpoints, but when your posts are constant put downs and name-calling (the latest being "Dumbo") your viewpoint is just skewed/blurred in my eyes. I no longer see it.
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I tend to agree with that sentiment.
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after M5M5 read the documents did she read what the contempt was actually about which was then added to by JL
little pieces here and there are being added by those who want to say stuff and then JL will respond with a little more not always but sometimes and it is that sometimes that gives more for consumption in an already precarious situation.
I had a response to JL's post to me but the post was deleted and I lost my response I only had the one sentence that I was responding to but I had added more.
"But, thanks for the lesson in life. I'm sure everyone here will great use out of it :)."
basically I was saying I wasn't giving a life lesson to anyone and I said some more - mainly that I would just not respond to the continued posts and comments that have been put out there for all to see and that I am concerned because so far all that has been said is simply said but there is some effort going into watching her and that God forbid it doesn't go any further...
I also stated how I know how hard it is to dispute depositions that are full of lies and how we did that and it cost a friggin fortune. When someone tells a lot of lies in a deposition even though it may be lies - it is "out there" and in JL's situation those who have the personal info can read it and then bring it here for folly - I said I wouldn't continue on this path - that she knows what goes on in her life and that is all that matters it is irrelevant what others think or believe.
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I'm very black and white..and if there's proof? Then why NOT see it other than a desire to not know?
Now, THAT principle HERE is absolutely born of the insistence of yes, your part and M5's and others, that things that ARE true, are NOT. Now, when I have an email sitting in my inbox saying otherwise? Well yeah, you look stupid. You're telling me (in the past) that what I have in black and white to be true, is NOT TRUE. And I got it straight from the source (JL). So yeah, if you're gonna sit there and call me a liar and defend the person who IS lying? Damn fvcking skippy I'm gonna wanna trot out truth. I do NOT appreciate being called a liar when I have the truth which confirms I'm not in my hands.
It's why I was very very specific with my "what is a lie" questioning with M5 that one time recently. And, last night, she had to concede.. YUP.. only took a few months, she LIED (JL). Now, I knew that night she lied. No doubt. But yet M5 spent how long battling me that ohhhhh noooooooo JL wasn't lying.. and how DARE I suggest otherwise?
I'm pissed Cassie because a) I'm the one JL blames the most for this crap and b) she's HER OWN WORST ENEMY!!!! katie would NEVER have had HALF the information she ultimately got? If JL herself had shut her fvcking mouth for 3.5 seconds once in a great while. Hmm.. well, she had her son's name on the wedding site.. duhhhhhh.. Well gee, do you think you'd maybe make it a private site if you're so concerned about your privacy and things being public? But oh no.. Katie got nothing that JL didn't basically hand her on a silver platter. End of story. THAT, my dear, is reality. And nope, I tend to not sugarcoat, gild the lily or put pretty bows and rainbows on what basically amounts to a sow's ear.
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I wish you would stop posting about something you know NOTHING about and were NOT here at the time it happened. Someone who was NOT her friend posted her personal information on here. Someone that said they would post her information, someone that should have NOT known her information, someone that JL did not like and they did not like her... Once JL said she wouldn't accept their help to buy plane tickets then they splashed her personal information out on the site. Then it started...where did they get that info from? And I still say it was because of FB- that NON friend was friends with one of her friends and JL's personal name was seen.
Just like how YOU- SRS- invited JL to be your friend on FB! A non friend used her personal info and that is how it got out.
So the trolls start and funny enough SRS you are almost ALWAYS right behind the trolls that post. So it's okay for you to say what you want- but then a friend of JL's kicks in or JL herself and she is stupid for posting anything? The trolls already have JL's info- they can already look up her public information. ANYONE on FB can look up yours SRS. JL could look up yours if she remembers your name. BUT would she go on here and spread your private info? Could someone else had seen your FB profile and seen your name on one of their lists of friends? This is before people really started using the privacy features FB had.
Regardless, you all sit there and bait her...calling her names and then when she does stand up for herself you call her stupid for posting. It's like you get a kick out of it. If you think it's BEST for her not to post-- STOP posting to her. Yet you all can't because it is part of your sick need to be part of something. Probably because your real life lacks any kind of luster.
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Spot on Cassie. Very,very,very well said! And I agree 100%.
And the whole "friending on facebook" with anyone on this site is DANGEROUS. Because as we all know, info is passed. Everyone's info. Not just JL's :)
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[quote]I tend to agree with that sentiment. [/quote]
Cassie has pretty much summed up everything nicely.
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Agreed.
To the lot of you: have fun. I'm done. This is a waste of time and...I can totally see why some of our best DSers have left. It's pretty sad.
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*** did you read what I was charged contempt for? Not being able to pay the GAL yet***
That isn't even close to the truth.
****And no - I have not been charged with anything***
see ^^^^^^^^^^^^. Your own words. Your story or "Truth" changes second to second.
***I haven't even set foot in that court room in over a year.***
Liar, you really HAVE LOST YOUR MIND. You were in court in June. Have you really forgotten that little trip to the court house? Ya know the one, where the judge denied your motion to suspend visitation and ordered all the make up time and more? God, I don't know or like you. But, it is scary the way you recall facts of YOUR life. Down right psychotic.
****This is my real life - and there are real children involved*****
Glad you get that at least. Now pay your bills and provide a roof for your child to live in. Is it your ex's fault about that too? Just maybe your ex is now the more stable one at this time. Does he have a job and a place to live?
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Out of wild curiousity... if you don't know her, how would you know if she has a job or a roof over her head?
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If I were in your shoes, thank God I am not, I would try and get a job, move in with my parents and save every penny I could to try and get myself and my child into an affordable and suitable living situation. Your child deserves some stability.
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The info was sent to me in a private message.
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That doesn't make it accurate though.. One of those "consider the source" kind of deals.
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This is accurate. She needs help. She does not need people cheering her on. She has lost touch with reality. I had my suspicions. Today it was confirmed when she talked in circles and had no recall of being in court 7 months ago for a court action that she brought before the court herself, one that she appeared at and signed off on.
To answer your question: It was fact checked.
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I will add: She knows her ex, his attorney and most likely her attorney are reading her every post on all boards. For her to ramble in such a disturbed manner is proof that she no longer is "with us" in reality. She was told not to post about the court case on a public forum. Not only did she DO just that, she lied about it AGAIN.
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"To answer your question: It was fact checked. "
That isn't even remotely an answer. Seems JL isn't the only one who talks in circles. You must be related to her.
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Not actually "related" to her. Nice try at a jab though.
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Jenny's 'other' legal troubles with the court and her soon to be ex has nothing to do with custody or visitation with her boy and his father. Shame on you for bring it to the board!
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Basically, if someone calls me hateful names they are fair game. So, yes, JL is fair game.
Too bad, doesn't have the intelligence to defend herself. SHe has to rely on her frenemies to do it.
ANyone can friend anyone they want to on FB. Who cares, it is FB. If you don't want to be friends, then don't make your profile public. Ignore the friend request. What a concept! Privacy settings! OMG! Easy, peasy for most people.
I get PMs ALL.THE.TIME from friends on this board telling about what nastiness JL has done to them. SHe's not all sweet and light like you all post publically. Own up to it.
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You say stop to MB...just stop MB...then you comment saying she doesn't have the intelligence to defend herself. Well jeez, didn't you want her to stop posting? Now you want her to defend herself?
Just stop SRS....please just stop. Go back to those gentle reminders you posted and see where it says you're fair game if someone calls you names....let me save you the trouble. It doesn't.
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It amazes me how absolutely rude and cruel some of these women are.
SRS - you're on ignore, stop wasting your time. I don't even peek. It's a complete waste of space. Practice what you preach lady, no need to be so hateful. WTF is my life or anything about me to you? Move on already.
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CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCatfight!!!!! :)
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Oh Bunny, way did you delete your post? It was enlighting, to say the least.
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Well it was sort of ironic considering.
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[quote]Basically, if someone calls me hateful names they are fair game. So, yes, JL is fair game.
Too bad, doesn't have the intelligence to defend herself. SHe has to rely on her frenemies to do it.
ANyone can friend anyone they want to on FB. Who cares, it is FB. If you don't want to be friends, then don't make your profile public. Ignore the friend request. What a concept! Privacy settings! OMG! Easy, peasy for most people.
I get PMs ALL.THE.TIME from friends on this board telling about what nastiness JL has done to them. SHe's not all sweet and light like you all post publically. Own up to it. [/quote]
No one PM's you a damn thing. :::blech::: Get a life, find a man, get to know him before you have kids with him, make sure he doesn't have a $40K/year gambling habit. God, your poor children, makes my heart ache just thinking about them living with such a f***ed up person. Evil has a name people, it's SRS. Get out of JL's life, you spend waaaayyy too much time obsessing over her. No, my widdle feewee's aren't hurt, you sick biotch, I'm nauseous, not upset or hurt. :::blech:::
Talk about mental issues, you've got them SRS galore. I'm sure you have talked to many mental patients.....most likely while you were locked up with them. Again, it's not at all healthy to fixate on someone like this. I'm going to pray for you and for your children. An exorcism may be in order for you though.
ETA: Sone people just need a sympathetic pat on the head...with a hammer.
Edited by Loretta (01/25/12 09:03 PM)
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I don't doubt that people PM her. They PM me too. NOT everyone is on JL's cheering committee and quite a few question her stuff.. they're just not necessarily public people, or not willing to take the hit it means you'll take if you dare to suggest she's got issues.
And SRS is 100% correct. You have NO complaint of stalkers, privacy violation etc when you are the main reason your private stuff? ISN'T PRIVATE!! At what point do folks hold her accountable for her own actions that created a good deal of this mess? And let's go wayyyy back, and yes, it does have a bearing.. on how she lied to the board when she was married to the ex. People remember stuff, and they often don't take kindly to being manipulated. So she created "enemies" of sorts. That's what happens when you lie and use people. Even me, i was a horrible person never to be trusted.. then it was okay to be my "friend" and use as a techie resource but when that didn't serve her purpose anymore because well, I'm not stupid, I can read, and I wasn't going to let what I knew were untruths to pass? Well then I was a psycho again and in reality? I didn't do anything more than point out a lie but that sent her into the furriest little flurry. Crazy.
I'd bet my salary on SRS telling the truth before I would on your being right any day. You're backing a KNOWN and REPEATED liar. That's a fact. And it's not "past history".. She lied about being arraigned, not 2 months ago. She LIES. Period. As much as I may not agree with SRS, she's not known to be a liar, is she? She may have other issues but, lying isn't one of them.
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My post had very little to do with JL. It is about SRS, and you quite frankly, obsessing over someone. My hell. Who gives a sh&t??? Let her judge, attorney, state, ex, etc, deal with her. SRS is a known liar as well. Again....who gives a sh&t??? You two are like a fricken broken record. I'm not stoopid, don't have hurt feewees, I'm not a cheerleader, I'm not perfect, but damn, I'm not fixated on someone and bound and determined to make people see them in my eyes. The whole board knows how you feel. We all know your salary (mines nicer btw). Saying it over and over is not making you heard any louder. It takes a very evil person to try their hardest to break someone's spirit. You think JL is mentally ill???? Then quit stomping on the mentally ill. It's evil.
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I don't think she's mentally ill.. as in a problem outside her control ;)
I'm sure your salary is nicer dear, you're a BUSINESS OWNER :) Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... if it wasn't? I'd question your business acumen ;)
I don't obsess over JL. Unless one of these posters brings her up? i don't give her any thought whatsoever. Hadn't in quite a while until SHE brought ME into the whole "someone emailed my ex" bullshyt. Perhaps you should refresh your memory. Go look on Delphi. I didn't bring me into that SHE DID. Sooooo who the fvck is obsessed???? Ohhh that's right.. HER with her ridiculous persecution, "someone's stalking me" complex. Just remember that. I made my point over at Delphi when she LIED about me and how I got there and I was done with her. SHE brought ME into the ex contacting retardation. Which is REALLY funny because, if you read the emails? HERE??? IS NEVER MENTIONED. NOT ONCE. Where IS mentioned? Oh, that's right.. DELPHI. And where are the posts sent to her ex from? DELPHI. Soooo, if you're talking about evil people? Look at her, because there's ZERO reason she'd REMOTELY think I did it. First of all, are you aware the emailer is supposedly a MAN??? Yeah, a man. And mentioned two other sites very specifically but one in GREAT detail but NEVER mentions this one? Not once. So where did she suspect it was me exactly? Who obsesses much? Why did she even BOTHER to post her "revelation" of the ex contacting HERE when HERE was never even MENTIONED??
And damn fvcking skippy I looked. [censored] lied about me AGAIN not only here but really threw my ass under the bus on the other site, you bet your butt I went and saw what I was supposedly responsible for.
And yeah, I'm pissed.. and yeah, when this topic comes up? I'll say my fvcking peace. Why? SHE gave me that right because SHE can't get past her imaginary "she stalked me" bullshyt which is JUST THAT.. BULLSHYT. period. End of discussion. Don't like it Loretta? Fvck you.
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Feel better? That was so yesterday. Today's a new day. Embrace it.
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wow. Just wow. You are offically no longer nice.
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**** It is about SRS, and you quite frankly, obsessing over someone. My hell. Who gives a sh&t???**** YOU do, apparently
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I read all the court papers. Not once, NOT ONCE was thsi site EVERY MENTIONED, EVER!!! It was the other 2 sites that she post on EVERYDAY. BTW, one has to PAY to read her crap over there. She knew it was NOBODY on this site. She posted her rant over there, then waited 9 hours to cut and paste it over here. The shock blew over there, so she moved it over here for some excitment.
Why did the looser post AGAIN here TODAY reminding that the rude, nasty and cruel women are still on ignore? Was it to show what an idiot she is? If 80% of the board is on ignore, how the fvck would she know that anyone said a word? Remember, she doesn't peek, EVER!!!
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Not to mention, there is a GAL involved. A GAL that went to court and told the judge that MrsB is uncooperative (even though MrsB REQUESTED a GAL in the first place.) When the GAL started questioning MrsB about her parenting skills and offering some "tips" is when MrsB slammed the "door" on the GAL and refused all contact or payment. Afterall, MrsB requested the GAL so the GAL would tell the judge what a POS her ex was. That didn't happen.
No doubt the GAL is reading her posts. She seems INSANE. Her custody issues are in the hands of the GAL and she keeps posting nonesense on a public board?????? Crazy girl
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You're new.. never was ;)
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She can see that someone posted.. just the text of the posting itself (when you open it) is "you are ignoring this user". HOWEVER, if you "quote" or "reply to" the posting? You see all the text ;)
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Apparently this thread is not a marquee for how to win friends and influence people.
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ETA: Sone people just need a sympathetic pat on the head...with a hammer. ___________________
Wow! I have to say this is the nastiest comment I think I have ever read here.
First you say you are going to pray for her, then you suggest she needs to be hit in the head with a hammer. Really? You felt good suggesting that? Not only suggesting it but, going to the trouble of editing your post so you could include it.
Your post makes no secret of what YOU think of her. It comes through loud and clear. Gotta love the prayer line though! No matter what you think of her, you need remember she is the mother of young children, people in her real life know and love her. To suggest she needs to be hit in the head with a hammer is just about as wrong as I have ever seen someone post here.
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No worries... I didn't even read it. I know how she gets, knew she would have to say something even though my statements weren't about her at all. What.ever. Shes another one.. When I could be of use to her, well, that was just fine :). I truly find it amusing.
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That post was directed at SRS, You probably don't want to read it. Full of hate and nastiness. I wish I hadn't read it.
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Yup. And no one believed me about the nasty PMs from her. Guess, this shows the difference and why I put her on ignore right after that.
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I totally agree, LB. I don't think about many of the people here during my day. However, when someone posts about JL and the PMs start flying, I get irritated. I was mad about being called names by JL and being accused of being "the stalker" by her frenemies when I am nothing of the sort. She doesn't have a real stalker, btw. That is just a sympathy thing she does to get attention.
BTW, if everyone is so smart, think about this. A person's future behavior can normally be predicted by their past behavior (which is why we call references on job applicants, use credit scores when determining lines of credit, and do Performance Based Interviewing for hiring).
If a person has lied to you in the past about money or being arraigned, your husband screwed around with you when he was married to his kids Mom, or they lie about having a stalker they will most likely lie to you again.
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Absolutely Agree!
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Ok where are we with all this, since I can't be bothered reading this whole thead, I don't have a dump in me long enough.
Is JL Divorcing her current husband? If she back in court? Did she lose her job? C'mon people, I need answers.
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Life is splendid, and people shouldn't talk about what they know nothing about :). Really, none of that is anyone's business. People can say what they want, and add their own details...really doesn't make a difference to me. Life is going great - but I'm glad everyone is oh so concerned with my life. Come on people...worry about your own lives a bit more instead of being so interested in mine. It's really NOT that interesting!
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That's too boring. I thought the whole purpose here is to find out dirt on you regarding custody, marriage, child support etc....
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Well, seems that's most everyone else's purpose ;). Sorry I couldn't be of more help! :) Guess everyone will just have to guess and assume like usual.
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I totally agree, LB. I don't think about many of the people here during my day. However, when someone posts about JL and the PMs start flying, I get irritated. I was mad about being called names by JL and being accused of being "the stalker" by her frenemies when I am nothing of the sort. She doesn't have a real stalker, btw. That is just a sympathy thing she does to get attention.
BTW, if everyone is so smart, think about this. A person's future behavior can normally be predicted by their past behavior (which is why we call references on job applicants, use credit scores when determining lines of credit, and do Performance Based Interviewing for hiring).
If a person has lied to you in the past about money or being arraigned, your husband screwed around with you when he was married to his kids Mom, or they lie about having a stalker they will most likely lie to you again. -----------------------------------------------
You have every right to feel that way SRS, but then YOUR rules have to apply to everyone- including YOU. You say that M5 stalks you, you ask her not to respond to you because you have her on ignore. JL has asked the same of you. You have the same problems with JL that many have with you. I have caught you in a FEW lies on here regarding your X- as you suggest, same as JL. In the end, you look more foolish than that of JL because you are preaching something that you, yourself, do.
I actually can't stand when people say--- I am getting PM'ed, people are PM'ing me-- whose business is it, BUT YOURS that you are receiving PMs? Just remember if YOU are getting PMs I can assure you some(<--ETA) of those same people are probably PM'ing about YOU as well.
Edited by Cassie23 (01/26/12 10:29 AM)
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No matter what you think of her, you need remember she is the mother of young children, people in her real life know and love her. ---------------------------------------------------
Great line- I hope that is intended for everyone.
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No matter what you think of her, you need remember she is the mother of young children, people in her real life know and love her. ---------------------------------------------------
Great line- I hope that is intended for everyone.
---Ditto.
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****Is JL Divorcing her current husband?**** Other way around
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spinnerdegrassi
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Where's the court link to the filing?
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Absolutely it does. I would hate to see harm come to anyone here.
Whether I like them or not is completely irrelevant to them or to the people in their real lives. I might disagree and argue from time to time. But, at the end of the day the computer is off and I am in my real life, as I assume most of you are. Suggesting someone needs to be hit in the head with a hammer, just because they don't see things your way, is beyond crossing the line IMO. That is reason I am so taken back by that statement.
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After seeing that post, I will say I believe you about the nasty PMs. There was a lot of hate in that posting.
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Harm just physically? I agree that the WORDS need to stop whether they are about physical harm or calling someone a hateful name. The verbal abuse this board throws out is ridiculous. THAT started pages and pages back. As it continues it just gets worse and worse. Everyone who has been hateful in this posting needs to take a step back and realize that we are all parents with children- and someone's hate and nastiness should be inferior to that alone.
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I don't. Loretta has no problems saying what she wants on here for all to see. No way would I believe she was "stalking" and sending hateful pms to SRS. Heck, she's accused me of stalking her, which is a laugh, so heck no I don't believe much of what she says.
Compared to the things SRS and PM have said on here before? Loretta's post is pretty tame, IMO.
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that didn't take long..... (frankly I don't care if you stay or go).. but you've reminded me so many times that I was "gone", I thought I would offer you the same curtisy... (sp)
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***Life is splendid*** Let us review: You are being sued by 3 different parties (all different cases), have nowhere to live and/or call your own "home", are single, in a very ugly custody battle involving a GAL that doesn't like you, and were "let go" from a job you just found.
If that is "Splendid", no thanks!
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So where is all this information? It's all well and good you're tossing stuff in the wind, but I want tangible proof. Give me links.
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Drama Fag! You claim to be in the circle of Smart People. You can figure it out.
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[quote]Drama Fag! You claim to be in the circle of Smart People. You can figure it out. [/quote]
I figure you needed a break from sucking her ex's dick. It's not like you have much going on based on your obsessive postings.
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Her ex's dick isn't something that I would "take in." However, Her STBX sure has a "thang" that one cute girl is getting. Local rumor has it, MrsB didn't cook or shop for her son's food, napped too much, used him as a baby sitter, and NEVER touched him. He moved on.
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nope - a little tip for when reading the online court records.
When the case number begins with ML - it is the filing to obtain a marriage license. Not a divorce.
-------------------- Forgiveness is...letting go of the hope that the past can be changed.
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Idiot!!!! Thanks for old news. But, Elliesmom, I take it you are a on-line court record SNOOP.
Since you snooped, as you just admitted, I take it you missed the application date????
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After all this BS about her being arrested - yep I did.
You implied that her now husband has sued for divorce. He has not - that is simply not true.
The arrested bit is a stretch. Under the strictest definition of the law, perhaps yes. But no one was led away in cuffs or anything. Just a lawyer appearing, signing a document, and entering a plea.
-------------------- Forgiveness is...letting go of the hope that the past can be changed.
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Even a Pet Rock would know that a man cannot file for divorce before the marriage took place. You are 1) STUPID or 2)typing what MrsB has asked you to respond with. Either way, you just made a fool out of yourself (because you have said on this board, that you would NEVER do "that".) YOU TOO SNOOPED in the court file. We know you did, because you only mentioned the ML, yet nothing else. She needs help. Help her.
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Opps...I didn't even consider her STBX as one of the three suing her. Dumb moment. Ok 4 people suing her.
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"Even a Pet Rock would know that a man cannot file for divorce before the marriage took place." --True, but irrelevant to the current conversation.
MrsB does not tell me how to respond to anything. I have not always agreed with her choices in dealing with her ex and have said so.
Not sure what exactly it is I said I would "never" do and then did. I generally don't speak in absolutes such as "never."
MrsB has family, friends, and a paid attorney to "help" her. I am sure she will be just fine. Even if the contempt thing IS in fact over withholding visitation, AND she is found guilty? BFD. She isn't going to lose custody over it. Anyone who has ever set foot in a family court room knows that it takes a lot more than ONE contempt to "lose" anything. Especially if the person is a woman.
-------------------- Forgiveness is...letting go of the hope that the past can be changed.
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When a married man moves out of the house and tells the wife to stop calling him, goes out with the boys every night, stops paying his portion of the rent/bills and is dating/sleeping with another women openly THAT makes her SINGLE. Truth be told, he has to wait for his tax refund before filing offically. Street word has it that he and his new gal are very happy. He just wants to put MrsB behind him.
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"MrsB has family, friends, and a paid attorney to "help" her"
Excellent. I am sure her attorney will enjoy reading that He is "paid."
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You need a life. You're getting way too much sand in your vagina over someone one the net.
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are you flirting with me?
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spinnerdegrassi
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You don't make enough money.
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Harm just physically? ________________
Yes, I meant physically. That is why I repeatedly used the phrase of being hit in the head with a hammer. To me for someone to suggest another person on here (or anywhere) needs to be physically hurt because they don't agree with each other, is some nasty stuff.
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When a married man moves out of the house and tells the wife to stop calling him, goes out with the boys every night, stops paying his portion of the rent/bills and is dating/sleeping with another women openly THAT makes her SINGLE. Truth be told, he has to wait for his tax refund before filing offically. Street word has it that he and his new gal are very happy. He just wants to put MrsB behind him. _____________
It might make her single, but, it makes him a big louse.
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[quote]After all this BS about her being arrested - yep I did.
You implied that her now husband has sued for divorce. He has not - that is simply not true.
The arrested bit is a stretch. Under the strictest definition of the law, perhaps yes. But no one was led away in cuffs or anything. Just a lawyer appearing, signing a document, and entering a plea. [/quote]
Amazes me anyone takes anything this troll says seriously.
Nope, he hasn't sued for divorce.
Nope, was not held in contempt for withholding visitation.
But, nice try...yet again...
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****Amazes me anyone takes anything this troll says seriously.****
*Not a troll, actually know you (not related) *Even your "Board Friends" had to look up your on line file, they did learn you were a liar *Please deny that you are NOT getting a divorce, or that your husband is OUT! *Are you going to pretend that your stbx has a lady friend? *Are you now homeless? *Is the GAL leaning towards your 1st ex-husband requests and did the GAL tell the judge that you need paranting classes?
Deny Deny Deny....
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*** You are ignoring this user ***
Still ain't gettin' it?
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I giggle and blush when you respond to me. BTW, your car tags are due. Time to call Daddy
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"Amazes me anyone takes anything this troll says seriously"
Why are you responding? You know what goes on in your life and what is true and what is not why do you come back and respond? Some believe you and some do not and the continued responding of - not true - you don't know what your talking about -neener neener implies you are really concerned about what the board thinks of you and it really should not matter to you - you know what is true and that should be ALL that matters.
Maybe your bored tonight and came out to play I just do not get why with your precarious situation you continue?? I am not saying to go away and not post anymore but maybe not engage with the ones who are trying to provoke you into saying "not true but nice try"
If it isn't true and you are just amazed by someone believing what is said then let it go - those that believe you will still believe you when you do not reply and those who do not believe you will eat it up and carry on. Not responding doesn't make it true but the continued responses from you keeps the "game" going. Should the others stop sure but obviously they are not going to and every time you chime in they have more fodder to play with.
It does not make sense to me that there are people playing with your life (which if it were me it would really scare me) and you continue to play with them. You do not know who they are but they seem to know you, your child, your husband, and your ex.
Unless this is all made up and they know nothing about you and you have no stalkers who gave information to your ex or what have you I do not understand why you are putting yourself and your family in jeopardy. Either these people have fed the information through emails or this and the other boards to your ex and you have stalkers or it is all made up - if it is all made up and it is a game feel free to keep playing and if it is true then WHY are you jeopardizing yourself?
I would just like to understand why this continues either they need to stop or you do unless it is a game both sides are playing then carry on. I was really concerned about the safety aspect especially for your child but I can only think it is all a game because a mother would not continually put herself in a situation that could go further than these boards (apparently there is information out there that could lead back to you) and in any way shape or form put her child at risk.
I don't know you and I don't know them and I haven't the foggiest as to what may or may not be true - what I do know is that if it is true that your information is scattered around and you have stalkers etc...please stop responding to them in any way - you do not know how far it will go (if all of this is true and not a game then it has already gone too far) and it may not be safe.
I am really not meaning to be rude or mean I just want to understand why a mother would continue to jeopardize safety if she was truly being watched, stalked, etc... and those doing the stalking and watching know the court dates and can get all your personal info off a website etc...
My apologies for the sermon - maybe I will have to settle for not understanding....
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AnnieO?? NOW you get it...This is what has frustrated some of us for so long...the game of "I'm ignoring you, can't you SEE that I'm ignoring YOU?" and then HER continued feeding of the trolls...FTR...I don't think they're trolls, in the traditional sense of the word...
As for the court records...yes, there are some things there that "nope" is right about...she's not out an out lying about them, but she's skirting around them...
In the end? It doesn't matter...it IS her life..she's the one who has to live it...she's put it all out here and on other internet mediums, and one would think "once bitten, twice shy", but no...she has to keep doing it..
JL..please...stop responding...stop giving them anything to feed on...if you never respond, they have little fodder to play with...
ETA: JL..I don't think anyone here would think less of you for not participating in these threads...Anyone here that cared about you would encourage you to let.it.go. I understand you feel a need to defend yourself? But really, it just makes it worse..especially when people have the ability to look things up....please..just stop responding...
-------------------- Ever notice how 'What the hell' is always the right answer?~Marilyn Monroe
Edited by Reilly (01/27/12 06:05 AM)
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Let's see, who keeps starting the threads? Like Cassie said - guess not everyone has to play by the same rules. She hit it spot on. If I don't post - I'm afraid and can't stick up for myself and others have to stick up for me. If I do - I'm feeding into it and am mentally ill...
Yeah...
Carry on.
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I can't imagine being in her position and still responding. Makes no sense to me, particularly given she knows people can look up the truth on at least a portion of the issues.
For my part, she dragged me into it (again) by bringing me up both here and even more so over on Delphi as the "ex contacting culprit" so to speak. Frankly, she owes me an apology for doing so because there's absolutely no way, no how, one would get to me as the source. Simply not possible and what she's down is downright defamatory and in the process continues to, yes, LIE about stuff. So damn straight I'm gonna call her out on it, since she's elected to involve me (yet again).
If one knows that even a portion of what's posted is true and you're going to "defend" against what's posted, then you have to acknowledge it. She'd get much further credibility-wise if she'd say, UP FRONT, "yes, this this and this are true BUT, that that and that are not.. here's the deal". But she doesn't. She lies. And we've clearly established, there's not half-truths, there's not evasions, there are LIES. Now for those that say "well, what do YOU care?????" welll umm.... as I stated above, she's not so subtly blamed ME for the ex emails and LIED. If ANYONE here has a legitimate beef? It's definitely me. And she won't face ME face to face, proverbially speaking. I'll face her, she WON'T face me. Because she can't. She's not a big enough or mature enough person to. Plain and simple.
I would feel sorry for her except she's the creator of her own issues, no question about it.
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I probably should have clarified when I say they and them I mean the new names (ie. nope, sampoe, sockpuppets)- the ones who came here just to "play" with JL not those who have been here.
"Let's see, who keeps starting the threads? Like Cassie said - guess not everyone has to play by the same rules. She hit it spot on. If I don't post - I'm afraid and can't stick up for myself and others have to stick up for me. If I do - I'm feeding into it and am mentally ill..."
I did not say you are starting them but you play along once they are there and you don't have to. You are the one with everything to lose (they know where you are etc...) if the whole stalker fed stuff to my ex shyt is really going on and it goes further than the board who have you actual location etc... THAT is what would scare ME.
I do not "get it" why you are concerned with sticking up for yourself when it could create harm to you - your information is "out there" and they know how to get to you.
It isn't "fair" that the rules do not apply to everyone but everyone doesn't have stalkers and court and people out to get you because everyone doesn't have their personal information ie. court issues "out there" that is why you should quit responding.
If you are being stalked. watched, your ex is here or someone he knows or what have you it should not matter to you to defend yourself YOU are the one in danger - of course if it is all a game then carry on...
I do no think LB contacted your ex I think someone irl that you either told or they overheard or it was in passing who know both you and your ex looked it up. If you tell people about your issues with your ex (as much as you have said here) at some point someone (probably a friend that was both of yours) will help either you out or the ex out. It makes more sense for an irl person who found out about the boards and now your ex, his attorney, and a GAL knows. Again if it is a game then carry on.
I don't know one way or the other but am going off that someone knows you and is willing to derail your life and it includes your child and that is why I personally (if in this situation) would stop engaging it just isn't worth it defend myself, not defend myself, fair, not fair, etc... my safety and the safety of my child would win out above all else and I would have disappeared long ago when my ex was notified or what have you. I may still lurk but I wouldn't post - but that is just me I will always be safety first especially with not putting my child at risk.
I don't know you but if this is all true the stalking etc.. and you are still engaging with those (nope, sampoes etc) who can do harm then I will never understand and I will quit trying to understand why you don't care about your and your sons safety and hope that it never goes further than these boards. btw I don't think your afraid, can't stick up for yourself, or that you are mentally ill, I think you want those who do believe you to keep believing in you and that it matters so much to you that you will put your safety and the safety of your son second to maintain those friendships. I think your friends should encourage you to be safe and not engage and if they want to defend you then they can but it isn't their lives that are in a precarious situation YOURS is.
If the whole thing isn't real then carry on - maybe I should just think it is all a game then I wouldn't need to be concerned with the safety issue for you and your son.
Another sermon from me - sorry
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My 16 and 13 year old have better restraints than JL...... I don't get it, won't get it... and lost sympathy for her years ago after a) she lied to the board b) dragged me into her crap c) played victim... d) is now... just stoopid.
Let her sink her own ship.... I've begged her to stop posting.. SHE WON'T... so if she's that stoopid... the God Forbid she has coming to her what is due... If she loses custody of her kid, it's her fault... if her new hubby is divorcing her.. it's her fault.... Do I think she's mental? I dunno, I am not qualified to say so... amazes me how many Dr's are on the board... Frankly.. now it's just a train wreck and I'm out of popcorn... Blessit...
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You're right, I shouldn't say she's got mental issues. I don't necessarily mean it "literally".. More like the phrase "head case", you know? I think I picked up up "psychotic" from... ??? bee movie? I'm pretty sure that's it lol. Gotta love Jerry Seinfeld, lol.
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I do not think she is mentally ill but I do think there may be some issues to address with a professional but I also think a lot of it stems from the corner she has painted herself into and sees little to no way out (only my observance and opinion, which comes from trying to understand it all).
It can be all consuming when your taking a lot on, whether it be here or in court or in her life and I think she doesn't see a way out of it (at least on this board) so the placing her self and child at risk (if the stalker etc.. is true) continues and is put in the context of trying to defend oneself and to let everyone know they have not ran her off, which really shouldn't matter when it comes to safety it should not matter what me, you (general you), or whomever says that she feels needs defending - but I am not a doctor and all I have to go on is what has been posted here in the responses etc... I really don't want to say I see desperation more like frustration - then again it may all be a ruse in regard to the stalkers and someone from here feeding he ex the info etc...
I am leading towards this is somewhat of a game and entertainment and there are no stalkers or anyone feeding this to the ex and the GAL etc... If the ex and whomever else does know it came out of irl contacts and the newer individuals (nope, sockpuppets, etc) are those irl contacts but her actual safety is not really at risk and she knows that so the continued responses are simply playing that game....
I really have no idea and at one point I thought that nope and or sockpuppets was JL - it fits if this is a game and she has no worries about her safety and continues to respond BUT I really don't know and I do not want to point fingers when I have no proof - all I have is my mind working overtime because my curiosity was expanding ;)
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And THAT's how it starts...your curiosity starts expanding and your mind starts wondering how in the WORLD any of it could be REAL...So people start looking...doesn't make them stalkers..its makes them human.
Anyone with a REAL stalker doesn't post their entire life on the internet for all to comment on...they just..don't...
That's what so mind boggling...and then? When you actually find out that only half of it is true or has been a manipulation of the facts? Well, its just human nature to comment on it..
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I think stalker is a misnomer. Its more like an online "mean girls" session. Most of us here have the luxury of telling our stories from our vantage point without being refuted. We get to leave out details we consider private/personal all the while participating in this community. Unfortunately long time ago MrsB was goaded into revealing too much, and did so. And she can't unring the bell. I looked, hoping that the person was wrong. I am happy to say that this person seems to be misrepresenting what can be read online. Or at least filling in huge blanks in the online records with their own little novella. MrsB's version is plausible, and even more likely to me given the few ways the anonymous posters have blatantly misrepresented the facts that can be seen there (like, that her husband sued her for divorce, NOT!).
I had hoped that if a few people who AREN'T too cowardly to use their real login names looked and refuted this nonsense MrsB would be able to go about her day without having to step in this.
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And this is how rumors start. NOBODY said MrB is suing MrsB for divorce. NOBODY!!! He packed up and left, he had enough. In addition, I DID SAY, he was filing after his tax return.
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LexieBelle
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I'm a little surprised at you EM. I've read the same documents and dont' think the "troll" posters are THAT far off-base. What HAS happened is they say one thing, her supporters come and THEY exaggerate what the "trolls" say and THAT because the basis of what's being defended.
They NEVER said her husband filed for divorce.. NEVER. They said "stbx" which, if he's left and is dating someone else? Well one assumes divorce is eventual. They then DID clarify and state that the divorce filing would come after a tax filing.
So where's the problem?
Oh and MrsB doesn't get flack because she was "goaded into revealing too much". That is THE most hilarious thing I've heard in a long long LONG time. Soooo, I was a stalker right? And untrustworthy right? Sooo, I'm so terrible that she voluntarily and TOTALLY not at my suggestion sends me read notifies with her ex's IP addresses so I can hunt him down for HER. That's reality.
At some point she trusted SOMEONE with her ex's last name. I'm going to bet a million dollars she wasn't GOADED into giving that information out.
What DID happen? Is she spent quite a long time lying to this board. To manipulate a situation. Then after she came clean because she was LEAVING that situation, and then when THAT situation was bad, she had to spin it to look good on her. Unfortunately she did so in kinda sorta maybe half truths and lies and in order to maintain her image? She's gotta keep spinning, and spinning and spinning.
What's REALLY funny? Where are the "oh yeah, you were RIGHT!"s???? Didn't people call this? Her husband not sticking around.. her eventually getting called out on withholding visitation from the ex and generally being a control freak. This was all forecasted you do realize that right? So all those psycho people who were sooo mean? Just so happened to be RIGHT.
Just sayin....
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The troll posters are not that far off base...I'm not willing to spoon feed anyone or tell what's there, I'm just saying they are NOT telling untruths...
No one here hates JL...at least I don't think so...I think its weird to "hate" someone on a message board...I even think its really a far stretch in most cases to wish harm on someone from a message board...I understand that hewhocannotbenamed is the exception to that rule...that guy did some real damage to several people...
I don't believe for one hot second she was goaded into giving too much personal information..
ETA: and if I recall correctly, JL was here while some of the "hewhocannotbenamed" crap was going on...PERFECT example of how NOT to behave on a message board...
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Edited by Reilly (01/27/12 05:12 PM)
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annieo
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It would be really sad if her new marriage is failing not only for her but her little one who from what was said really likes his step-dad.
It sounds like there may be a lot going on and time would be better spent in real life then on this board trying to counteract what is being said here...
She does get support here and she may be in need of support so maybe that is why it is important for her to be here, however, if it were me I would not be responding to lies, half-truths, truths or what have you.
Of course I have a ton of irl support so I can rely on that when I need support and I would rather have those around me who not only support me but call me on my bull and point out different views. I try to see different views because some times when one is so caught up in the emotional it can be difficult to to see through the emotions that come with difficult issues and (to me) I find that if I can see all sides objectively I can put the emotions aside and move forward on what I need to concentrate on - I hope this makes sense?? I think most people know what it is like to be spun around in circles and trying to come to a stop can be difficult.
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They may have never said it like that, that her husband filed for divorce but this is what Nope did say on 1/26/12 at 1:55pm in post #775632
****Is JL Divorcing her current husband?**** Other way around
Isnt that the same as saying he is divorcing her????? One would assume by that statement that he had filed, atleast that how I read it.
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I didn't say it was ALL totally off-base. Just that it was a liberal interpretation of the scant information available. And at times untruth. I am not going to go back through this thread to prove it (making dinner right now), but I recall that in the whole I am an "IDIOT!" exchange it was said she was being sued for divorce.
As far as the goading - I was specifically referring to the the thread that was 200+ posts about how she was lying until she directed everyone to the website to prove she was not. I cringed at the time. She's a big girl so it is on her, but it wasn't like she gleefully revealed THAT.
And FTR I never thought it was you (or Runs for that matter) that "stalked" her. I think she blamed you because she knew YOU knew enough to do it and you were cross with her at that time. But realistically, anyone who wanted to play Sherlock and had free time COULD have figured it out by piecing together tidbits of info over time. And I think that is what happened. Why someone cared enough to "out" her I will never know or understand.
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Good post, EM...
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