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holmeed61
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      #776042 - 01/29/12 08:53 PM

My wife just asked for a divorce after 10 years.I did nothing wrong. I did not work for almost 9 of those being a house husband taking care of many animals and acres of land in rural USA. I had the savings, she had the credit. We had no debt, few problems.. I have hep c. She makes maybe 50 grand a year. I am 50 and have no way of gaining employment after 9 years especially in this broken economy. Need retraining of some sort. Bad thing its in Ky, one of the most backwards states in our country. I am FORCED to move back in with parents in N Ill in a town that has the 9th worst unemployment in the country. Like I said I have NO marketable skills being a househusband and have had hep c for over 20 years...Tired, flu like symptoms... Already paid a lawyer to start this. I know I can get some of her SS after 10 years, what are my chances for at least temporary support? Bad thing is I put down 50 grand on house we probably cant sell in this market either, I will lose my butt on that.. Thx

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Re: man seeking support [Re: holmeed61]
      #776135 - 01/29/12 11:04 PM

Is the problem what to do about the house? You put in savings, she had good credit to finance it and now it's worth less than you put in from your savings?

Househusband with no children isn't a category much valued in our society. Some call it long term unemployment.

What good would short-term rehabilitative alimony do you? Do you plan to train for some kind of work?

You are staring at poverty and it's not pleasant. Good luck. Keep your spirits up. Something will work out.


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Re: man seeking support [Re: Renny]
      #776176 - 01/30/12 09:04 AM

That is an interesting duality, "Househusband with no children isn't a category much valued in our society. Some call it long term unemployment.". So is a houseWIFE the same?

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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...


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Re: man seeking support [Re: Renny]
      #776178 - 01/30/12 09:08 AM

But a housewife with no kids is? Thats called discrimination. It takes ALOT of work taking care of 10 acres and a 3000 sq foot house...ALL the animals were hers before we married also...

Yes at my age I will have to train for something.. If not, jails are full and I will have to do what I have to do to make money. This is a lawless country with few rules..why should I be honest? You will fall behind that way in this oligarchy and plutocracy..Those who live by the sword?

House was %175,000, put 50 down. House way in the woods in backwards Ky.. might not sell at all. If not I will not sign any papers any ruin her credit and it will be foreclosed.We both lose then..

I have a chronic health condition also..hep c...Losing weight and energy fast...liver could be going but now I dont have insurance in our oligarchy..My goal? Leave a million bill and croke.. THEY GET NOTHING...


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Re: man seeking support [Re: holmeed61]
      #776190 - 01/30/12 09:46 AM

You might try to negotiate getting your $50k back in return for quit-claiming the house to her. At least you'll have a little money to start over.

It's not so much that the laws are discriminatory -- they are not -- but that a divorce tends to make everybody worse off.

Sorry about the hep C. And our lousy healthcare system. Jail is the least appealing option.


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Re: man seeking support [Re: holmeed61]
      #776193 - 01/30/12 09:49 AM

Advice:
DO NOT move to the south. It was my worst mistake. Its cheaper, but theres a reason...

How can a region (SOUTH) whose politicians talk about "preserving the sanctity of marriage" have higher teen pregnancy rates and higher divorce rates than any other regions in the country? Why is the South, a region which recently saw a slew of laws trying to save marriage by banning gay marriage, so chock-full-o-teens getting pregnant and adults destroying the sacred bond they claim to be trying to protect? ... hypocrisy=mindnumbing


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Re: man seeking support [Re: holmeed61]
      #776195 - 01/30/12 09:51 AM

She moved out..the house is just sitting now...

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Re: man seeking support [Re: Renny]
      #776241 - 01/30/12 11:12 AM

Why are you advising that? ONE post down, you advise a MAN that HE will be paying his ex wife alimony. This after a 10 year marriage, with no kids, JUST like this case. Yet here, you are advocating that he try to cut his loses, and TRY to get his downpayment back. Wouldn't he be entitled to the SAME thing a woman is after a 10 year marriage?

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Re: man seeking support [Re: gr8Dad]
      #776246 - 01/30/12 11:24 AM

First, you do not receive a portion of your spouse's social security as you indicate. rather, after 10 years, your Social Security entitlement can be based on your spouse's earnings. Your spouse's Social Security is not reduced.

Second, although spousal support determinations would require a review of all of the facts, not just the limited information posted, it would seem, a minimum, that some temporary support would be ordered. There appears to be little doubt, however, that you will have to demonstrate that you sought employment and were unable to find any - even a minimum wage job.

In Kentucky, the court may grant a maintenance order for either spouse only if it finds that the spouse seeking maintenance:
(a) Lacks sufficient property, including marital property apportioned to him, to provide for his reasonable needs; and
(b) Is unable to support himself through appropriate employment or is the custodian of a child whose condition or circumstances make it appropriate that the custodian not be required to seek employment outside the home.

The maintenance order shall be in such amounts and for such periods of time as the court deems just, and after considering all relevant factors including:

(a) The financial resources of the party seeking maintenance, including marital property apportioned to him, and his ability to meet his needs independently, including the extent to which a provision for support of a child living with the party includes a sum for that party as custodian;
(b) The time necessary to acquire sufficient education or training to enable the party seeking maintenance to find appropriate employment;
(c) The standard of living established during the marriage;
(d) The duration of the marriage;
(e) The age, and the physical and emotional condition of the spouse seeking maintenance; and
(f) The ability of the spouse from whom maintenance is sought to meet his needs while meeting those of the spouse seeking maintenance.

Sections 403.200 and 403.180 of the Kentucky Statutes.


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Re: man seeking support [Re: Maury]
      #776263 - 01/30/12 12:00 PM


I dont understand the SS thing. My wife will have much more SS coming than I...My SS entitlement CAN be bases on my wifes earnings? Hers is not reduced? Where does the extra SS come from then?

thx for help

I am left basically homeless with nothing. I spent 66 grand of my inheritance to get my wife a better education moving all around. Its gone.. I had plenty of $$ in the bank at it was ok to be a house husband until the money start running out. We are in a depression. People with masters degrees are bartending...


I have no marketable skills and no way of making a income. I will get no property, money etc... We had a very good standard of living.. 10+ years of marriage. I am a emotional and physical wreck and health failing..


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