annieo
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"Before setting his house ablaze and killing himself and his two young sons, Josh Powell left a voicemail for family members saying he couldn't live without the boys and didn't want to go on anymore."
So he did this right before setting the blaze. But it was the voicemails and Emails that were used to "prove" that he PLANNED this. Sounds like a snap action to me. But lets read on:
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It does not say he wrote the emails etc RIGHT before - he did it before he set it ablaze I doubt he could have done it AFTER he set the house ablaze - oh yeah maybe he was to busy CHOPPING the children with a HATCHET...
Voice mail and email are not necessarily checked as soon as they are received otherwise he could have just called whomever up and had a nice friendly chat saying "hey I'm going to kill me and the boys and I am going to be especially cruel and chop my children with a hatchet to add to their cause of death so don't bother calling me back cause we won't be here" ANYONE can send an email and or leave a voice mail and most know when the recipient is not available to take the call or email.
PLANNED
Harassed - seeking sympathy either one is possible but lets remember his OWN words - he is resilient and NOT a lesser person
"Powell's horrific murder-suicide seemed to come out of nowhere. Just days before, in a motion seeking custody of his children filed with a Washington state court, Powell said he missed his wife, and would remain strong for the boys."
Oh, okay, so now it came out of nowhere. Okay, got it, snap action, got it. Lets read on:
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Planning it and coming out of nowhere - he obviously wasn't going to tell people BEFORE hand and he knew the children would be there at that time and he let the CPS worker live
PLANNED
"He said minutes before the fire, Powell sent emails to several people saying, "I'm sorry. Goodbye." To others, including his cousins and pastor, he sent longer emails, with instructions on where to find his money and how to shut off his utilities. In at least one email, he wrote that he couldn't live without his boys, Troyer said."
Okay, so he sent the Emails out right before the fire, got it, snap reaction.
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He had EXTENSIVE email and how to deal with his affairs - how does one do that minutes before - they write them up and then send them at the time that they go through with the plan
PLANNED
I DO NOT think the children should have been with the grandparents - due to the conflict and the grandparents assumptions that he killed their daughter and given what the paternal grandfather did in the home (p orn) the maternal grandparents were being continually put on an emotional roller coaster and their judgement is clouded and biased.
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SweetLight
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Reged: 01/07/10
Posts: 2003
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Why are you talking about no evidence that he killed his wife, too? He took a hatchet to his kids and blew up the house when they started drawing pictures at daycare, showing their mother in the trunk of the van. What more do you need??? Good Lord. You are the one with inconsistencies and flip flopping. Wow. Unbelievable.
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Gecko
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Posts: 19805
Loc: Third rock from the sun
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From news.y a h o o.com/dad-killed-self-sons-blaze-left-voicemail-124521510.html:
"The father of the 5- and 7-year-old boys painted himself as a tortured man, ridiculed without reason in the disappearance of his wife, steadfastly insisting he was innocent until the end.
Yet the investigation and autopsy reports released late Monday show the acts of a violent man who meticulously planned the double murder-suicide of himself and his two young sons, culminating Sunday in Powell setting his house ablaze and taking a hatchet to his children's necks."
I'm confused here (not really), but since when does 'crazy' mean 'stupid'?
Jim Jones was 'crazy', but the leader of the "Peoples Temple" wasn't stupid when he planned the deaths of almost a 1000 of his followers.
David Koresh was 'crazy', but stupid doesn't built a massive compound and rigged it with explosives.
[censored] Harris and Dylan Klebold...they went off the 'deep end' too...and took 12 of their classmates and a teacher with them. They planned their attack...and suicides.
Seung-Hui Cho and Charles Whitman...two more 'cracker jacks' who were also NOT stupid; between the two of them, they killed almost 50 people and wounded more 50.
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If you air your dirty linen in public, expect people to comment on the skid marks!
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sally1234
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Seriously - when you are in a hole stop digging. You can label this anything you want and parse words. This was pure evei and no amount of you changing the meaning of words or circumstances will change the fact this guy was a creep, evil and as despicable a human that has walked this earth. Spare me what he was put through - these were innocent children...sickening.
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gr8Dad
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Maybe you should read about this before joining the grown up conversations. The children did NOT draw pictures of Mommy in the trunk. One of the kids drew the car with three people in it. Then, SUPPOSEDLY, when asked where Mommy was, the kid said "Mommy is on. the trunk.". Never verified and only delivered to the news by double hearsay
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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SweetLight
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Reged: 01/07/10
Posts: 2003
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BAER. Maybe you should stop defending a freaking murderer.
“Charlie had been asked along with other members of [his] class to draw a picture of something they did in summer,” Downing said. “At some point he drew a picture of the family van. The dad was driving the van, he and his brother were in the backseat and mom was in the trunk.”
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gr8Dad
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Something you did during the summer? Wow, so they went camping in SUB zero temps in the SUMMER?
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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SweetLight
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 01/07/10
Posts: 2003
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You have 43 posts in this thread and you still don't get it? You would argue with a stop sign, your gf sure is one lucky lady. ;-)
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gr8Dad
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And when unable to refute, you turn to personal attacks...I must be submit.g, lol.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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Miranda
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There is nothing to refute really, you are being intentionally obtuse.
Kids, especially small kids, have no sense of time. I cannot even imagine telling a kid that what he is saying is not true because he got he season wrong. Give me a break. Doesn't change the fact that the kid consistently says "my mom was in the trunk".
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13.1...because I am only half crazy!
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