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SweetLight
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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: gr8Dad]
      #777130 - 02/07/12 08:50 PM

How can you be so sure of that?

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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: SweetLight]
      #777131 - 02/07/12 09:01 PM

Well I've read his very vocal opinion about Andrea Yates and its quite different from this victimized father thing he's got going on in this thread.

Gr8 is very transparent. Objective? No. But transparent, definitely.


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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: gr8Dad]
      #777132 - 02/07/12 09:04 PM

Someone in the home where he had his children living HAD. And as AnnieO said, I suspect there is far more that we do NOT know.

And even IF you are right and he was harassed or whatever, you DO NOT KILL YOUR CHILDREN! He took a HATCHET to his babies. The things he SUPPOSEDLY loved sooooo much.

There's ZERO way to justify or yes, EXCUSE, what he's done. And your arguments are just that, AN EXCUSE.


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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: LexieBelle]
      #777133 - 02/07/12 09:05 PM

Now, it turns out his wife was having a sexual love affair with her father in law. The father in law, HIS FATHER, is now the "person of interest." God Golly Geeze, can this get any worse? If the man learned Saturday, that his father was having an "obsessed" love affair with his wife, and was ALSO seeking custody of his own kids, and was also talking badly in the media about him, also had CPS on his heels whenever he made a move with his kids (the father in law acted like the children were HIS kids with his daughter in law), I can say he went INSANE. A person can be legally insane for days even weeks. The man was insane, with anger. My God, she was having an afair with his father, who was arrested last fall on a sex crime (and will soon be aressted for his wife's murder) and also seeking custody of his KIDS. He went insane

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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: nope]
      #777137 - 02/07/12 09:24 PM

Have you even READ the news reports or is a reading comprehension issue...

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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: annieo]
      #777138 - 02/07/12 09:29 PM

It is BREAKING NEWS, do you have a TV?

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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: nope]
      #777139 - 02/07/12 09:37 PM

Actually it was BREAKING news Sunday and yep I have a television and I even have local reports given I am about 4 hours away from Graham and Puyallup and have family in Puyallup and a good friend in Graham so yeah I have a few reports and information - just curious where you are getting YOUR information because it is rather off base in some areas.

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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: annieo]
      #777140 - 02/07/12 09:45 PM

Here's today's BREAKING news

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Utah authorities have for at least six months investigated the disappearance of Susan Powell as a murder case. But without a body, they publicly held out hope that she would be found alive.

So what evidence did they have that the mother of two was dead? And was there anything to identify her killer?

There was the damp spot on the floor in their Utah home and a curious late-night camping trip described by her husband. There were also the recollections of their young son Braden about a camping trip and his mother being "in the trunk."

That could strike some as a clue, or the ramblings of a boy who was then just 2.

For authorities in Utah, none of it was enough to bring charges.

The man identified by investigators as a "person of interest" — Powell's husband Josh — had already moved from Utah to Washington state, taking with him their two young sons. On Sunday, he torched his house, killing himself and the boys.

Now, as authorities try to determine what led him to take such a drastic measure, many questions remain about the status of the investigation into Susan Powell's 2009 disappearance and how close they were to bringing charges.

A Washington state search warrant obtained by The Associated Press through a public records request Tuesday showed that police were investigating three felonies in Utah: first-degree murder, kidnapping and obstructing a public servant.

Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill acknowledged for the first time that they believe Powell is likely dead, but he said in an interview with the AP that the case remains a missing persons probe for now.

Gill wouldn't discuss the evidence but said authorities didn't have enough information to file charges.

"I think when I talk about it as a missing persons case, that's because we haven't located the body of Susan Powell," Gill said. "Do we think that she may have met harm? Sure. I think that's been an ongoing assumption with law enforcement."

Investigators say Josh Powell withdrew $7,000 in cash from a bank the day before he killed himself and his two young sons in a house fire in Washington state.

Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said detectives obtained Powell's bank records Monday, and on Tuesday they searched a storage unit he rented. It isn't clear what happened to the money.

Josh Powell claimed that on the night Susan Powell vanished, he took sons Charlie and Braden from their home in West Valley City, Utah, on a late-night camping trip.

When Utah authorities traveled to Washington following the fatal Sunday blaze that killed 7-year-old Charlie and 5-year-old Braden, they didn't specifically address what may have been said by the boys.

West Valley, Utah, Police Chief Buzz Nielsen said authorities needed concrete evidence to move forward.

"When you charge on criminal cases, especially if it ends up being a homicide ... without a body, it's just more difficult. You have to have a stronger case to make those arguments in court," Nielsen said Monday.

"We have circumstantial evidence that I'm not allowed to talk about it," he said. "On a criminal case of this nature you've got one shot, beyond a reasonable doubt in court."

Last September, authorities got a warrant to search the home of Josh Powell's father, Steve. Josh Powell and his sons were living there at the time. The documents obtained by the AP did not specify a suspect.

In addition to the charges, the warrant listed Steve Powell's work laptop computer as well as cars that he used.

Authorities found explicit images on his computers during the search, and he was jailed on voyeurism and child [censored] charges. The boys were later sent to live with Susan Powell's parents.

Speaking to reporters Monday after the boys' deaths, their grandfather Charles Cox said the boys were emotionally distant when they first arrived at their home but recently had begun to open up.

That gave Charles Cox hope that someday they would be able say what happened to their mom.

The boys had not recently made more comments about what may have happened to their mother, Charles Cox said, though he related what Braden said nearly two years ago.

Cox said: "The four ladies that were supervising that activity said, 'Well, what's this?' 'That's us going camping.' 'Who's in the car?' And Braden said, 'That's Daddy, that's Charlie, that's me.' Then he said, 'Well, mommy's in the trunk.'

"Well if Mommy's in the trunk, why is she in the trunk?' He didn't know, he didn't say, I guess. Then, he said we stopped somewhere and mommy and daddy got out and mommy didn't come back," Cox said.

Nielsen said despite the death of the young boys and Josh Powell, the probe would continue.

"Our case is not closed," the police chief said.

Lindquist, who is overseeing the voyeurism prosecution of Steve Powell but is not directly involved in the Susan Powell case, said it's clear to him that it's a homicide case.

"I don't think at this point I'm going to call this a missing person case," he said. "It's reasonable to call Josh Powell's decision to kill himself and his kids a confession to the murder of Susan Powell."


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I don't know about calling it a confession but it is incredibly suspect....

Gr8 will say it isn't suspect and that Powell did it because he was abused by the media via the police and he just couldn't take it anymore and chopped his babies with a hatchet and then blew themselves up because he wrongly had his children taken from him because he is a man and did nothing wrong what-so-ever - I think I got that correct?


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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: annieo]
      #777142 - 02/07/12 10:07 PM

And, did you not not read , hear or find, that she was having an affair with the creepy father in law, that is now (intresting the timing) the main person of intrest in Susan Powell's murder/dissaperance?

They TODAY have renamed the POI. I guess when the POI kills himself and his kids, they GO AFTER the very man that Susan Powell's family as suspected all along. The FATHER IN LAW! Yes, he did kill himself and the kids. Tradgic Tradgic Tradgic. Insane, yes! Josh Powell was the man every few nights is highlighted on Nancy Grace and shows of the like.I still say he went insane after Sat. and the knowledge that was revealed.


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Re: OT - In case anyone doubted this guy's a-holeness [Re: nope]
      #777146 - 02/07/12 10:30 PM

Please post the article that says what you are stating.

The articles I have posted and read did touch on the father having a thing for his sons wife but not that he killed Susan or was suspected in her disappearance - the father is charged and in jail because authorities found explicit images on his computers during the search, and he was jailed on voyeurism and child p orn charges.

The father was in Washington at the time of the disappearance which occurred in Utah where Josh and Susan lived.

Please post the news report from which you are reading and relaying as the latest news.

If Josh was so insane for so long then it really is not a big deal that his children were taken from him - maybe that is why the return of the children was delayed - you just figured that out for all of us who were trying to understand why the courts and CPS would not return them right away....now we know BUT he still PLANNED the murders of his children.


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