gr8Dad
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Look at how they are GRASPING at straws to make him look guilty. NOW they are saying his house in Washington, which he moved into after he was told he could NOT live at his father's place (despite the fact that his father was in jail), looked like a "sham" residence. Why? What EVIDENCE do they have that he was only using this residence to fool CPS workers? Was there ANOTHER residence somewhere else? Nope. Was there a CAVE or something with his STUFF in it? No, except for the storage building he kept stuff in, like MOST of America.
So WHAT was so damning about this house that is being used to determine that it was a sham? Well, there were PICTURES on the wall of him and the kids, and the place was decorated to show a loving family man...that dispicable BASTARD!
Now, in order to reduce the number of responses in this thread, I am stating the following:
I am NOT defending his actions that killed himself and his children, and will NOT respond to any posts that say that I AM, because they are obviously posted by MORONS who cannot read the REPEATED times that I have said that.
The reason this case is so VERY important is that the CAUSE and EFFECT have been reversed. The criminal justice system, the family court, and the media drove a man to commit a DISPICABLE act, then POINTED to that act and said, "See, we told you he was a murderer."
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Cassie23
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I read the article, sounds like they believe that this a "sham" residence because it was an abandoned home and not technically being "rented" by him? I don't know- too little information. They did make it seem like he has another residence, which there is no proof of, thus far.
Did you also read that there was incestuous pictures found on his computer? I am assuming they mean the computer that was in the home his father and him shared? That was, in part, why the judge was asking for psych-sexual eval?
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gr8Dad
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I have seen NOTHING of another residence.
"Did you also read that there was incestuous pictures found on his computer?"
They found one animated video that depicted an incestuous act. They found it TWO YEARS AGO. If it was not a factor THEN, it isn't a factor now. Some people are into that. There is a whole series of p0rnos about that subject (The "Taboo" series). Its not illegal (possesing the stuff, not performing it, LOL).
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LexieBelle
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No, they are only NOW just FINDING things! Like, the blood-stained comforter in the storage unit. Like, the incestuous scenarios on HIS computer in what was HIS home.
Which, the last one? Makes TOTAL sense even if you apply it one or two different ways.
I, for one, am completely convinced that EITHER Josh was molested by his father OR witnessed his father molesting other children. I also am completely convinced that Josh had either expressed said thoughts or had exhibited a behavior such as to alarm his wife. THAT? Is why she's dead.
It also explains his in-laws' references to how he viewed his boys as "possessions" (very typical of an incestuous parent) and also explains why he got rid of them (and himself). Also explains why he made SURE they would not survive. (not sure why the hatcheting overkill since he poured accelerant ON their bodies).
I think Joshie boy was a very SICK boy.
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LexieBelle
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As far as I'm aware it was an incestuous act between an adult and a CHILD. And no one said it wasn't an issue 2 years ago.. the general public just isn't necessarily fully informed of EVERYTHING in an ongoing investigation.. gee, imagine that!
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gr8Dad
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"No, they are only NOW just FINDING things! Like, the blood-stained comforter in the storage unit. Like, the incestuous scenarios on HIS computer in what was HIS home."
Nope. They DID just find the blood stained comforter. So? You have ANYTHING in your house with ANY blood on it? Should your KIDS be taken because of it?
The incest video was found IN HIS HOME COMPUTER, TWO YEARS AGO.
"I also am completely convinced that Josh had either expressed said thoughts or had exhibited a behavior such as to alarm his wife. THAT? Is why she's dead."
You DON'T know she is dead, so I guess making up a "motive" for soemthing you don't know makes perfect sense.
"It also explains his in-laws' references to how he viewed his boys as "possessions"
And you know he viewed them this way HOW?
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gr8Dad
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"As far as I'm aware it was an incestuous act between an adult and a CHILD."
Well, THAT would be kiddie p0rn, and he wasn't arrested or charged with it, so that is crap.
"And no one said it wasn't an issue 2 years ago.. the general public just isn't necessarily fully informed of EVERYTHING in an ongoing investigation.. gee, imagine that!"
In your blind rage to prove yourself right, you are simply ignoring COMMON SENSE things. If it was an issue big enough to take or keep his kids from him, it would have happened 2 years ago. The addition of things to the custody battle happened 4 months ago. Since the infamous video was KNOWN about 2 YEARS ago, why wouldn't any CONCERNS about it have been addressed four months ago, at the INITIAL hearing? It is not NEW evidence, so it NEVER should have been used to add NEW things to the custody requirements.
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LexieBelle
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Okay... not going to have the same argument with you. Waste of time. You have your opinion, I have mine. When/if the truth does come out? I guess we will see whose version is closer to being right. It's a "gut feel" on my part and my gut is RARELY wrong.
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gr8Dad
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"Okay... not going to have the same argument with you."
This isn't the same arguement. You are arguing UNKNOWNS and facts not in evidence as though they ARE facts and known. Your timeline is out of whack as well.
"It's a "gut feel" on my part and my gut is RARELY wrong."
Lets just hope someone does not try to take YOUR child based on a GUT feeling, with NO evidence, right?
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Gecko
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I too have difficulty with the whole 'abandoned home' deal because it takes more than some pictures on the wall to make a house a home. You need furniture and household goods...CPS would have checked to make sure the kids had beds and clothing and toys. They also would have checked the kitchen...which means dishes, pots and pans and food. And what about utilities? And the yard?
And finding books and a UNMARKED map of Utah...in a landfill! Are you freaking kidding me?!? Our local landfill is HUGE...and throughout the day there are these huge machines that spread stuff out and then everything gets covered with a layer of 'dirt' after closing time.
Yes...it's a cover up. Time and time and time again, we have seen the family courts/cps/etc push people past the breaking point and when something bad happens, the rush in to cover their asses.
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