Miranda
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A producer for NBC News has been fired for editing a recording of George Zimmerman's call to police the night he fatally shot Trayvon Martin.
The New York Times is reporting that "the person was fired on Thursday, according to two people with direct knowledge of the disciplinary action who declined to be identified discussing internal company matters."
The dismissal of the Miami-based producer, whose name has not been publicized, followed an internal investigation by NBC, which led to the network apologizing earlier this week for having aired the deceptive audio.
This photo combo shows George Zimmerman. At left is a 2005 booking photo provided by …
The recording aired on NBC's "Today" show on March 27, when the audio viewers heard suggested that Zimmerman volunteered to police, without provocation, that Martin was black: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."
But the tape had been edited, and the portion where the 911 dispatcher specifically asks Zimmerman if the person in question was "black, white or Hispanic," was deleted.
The conversation that actually occurred between the dispatcher and Zimmerman is as follows:
"This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about." Then the dispatcher asked, "O.K., and this guy — is he white, black or Hispanic?" To which Zimmerman replied, "He looks black."
After that phone call on the night of Feb. 26, Zimmerman fatally shot Martin. The 17-year-old Martin was unarmed, and Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Fla., told police he fired in self-defense after Martin attacked him.
[Related: Did Zimmerman say 'punks' or racial slur in 911 recording? ]
Since then, it has been debated if Zimmerman was racially profiling the teenager, a notion the edited version of the tape reinforces.
The Times reports that NewsBusters, a conservative media monitoring group, first reported NBC's discrepancy on March 30. The following day, NBC told The Washington Post that it would investigate. On Tuesday, NBC said in a statement that its investigation turned up "an error made in the production process that we deeply regret." The network promised that "necessary steps" would be taken "to prevent this from happening in the future" and NBC apologized to viewers.
No steps were specified, but the New York Times reports that the next day "a Miami-based producer who had worked at NBC for several years" was fired, and "people with direct knowledge of the firing characterized the misleading edit as a mistake, not a purposeful act."
[Related: George Zimmerman video shows injury to back of his head ]
On Thursday, Reuters cited an unnamed NBC executive saying "The "Today" show's editorial control policies -- which include a script editor, senior producer oversight, and in most cases legal and standards department reviews of material to be broadcast -- missed the selective editing of the call."
Staff members at NBC News, who had been working on the Trayvon Martin story for weeks in Florida, were initially "in shock" over the altered tape, and later furious, another source told Reuters.
Reuters also reports that "NBC News executives interviewed more than half a dozen employees during their investigation."
On Saturday, the "Today" portion of MSNBC's Web site posted a Reuter's story on the producer's firing
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SRS
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[censored]://news.[censored].com/blogs/upshot/nbc-fires-producer-over-edited-zimmerman-911-call-201124740.html
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'twas a quick reply and ment for notsocutiepie
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Gecko
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Exactly. I don't think Zimmerman was able to drive between those buildings. Martin was shot (after running? away, according to Zimmerman) at a different location.
---> No...not 'exactly' because 1) I never said he drove between the buildings and 2) you're taking my words out of context. Did you read about the sidewalks...the one that ran FROM the street where Zimmerman was parked TO BEHIND the first set of apartments and then ran down the LENGTH of THREE buildings?
I don't believe Zimmerman walked back to his vehicle. It's possible he lied about that--probably because he was scared and pretty shaken up about what he just did.
---> Why not?
---> Understand...I'm not taking sides here...not enough REAL facts, but I can look at a map and get a gist. If physical evidence suggests that Martin went left after Zimmerman when he could have gone right to his father's fiances' house...then he is responsible for his choice. If physical evidence suggests Zimmerman lied to the police and used excessive force...then he is responsible for his choice. But in order to make a determination...we need to know exactly where Martin and Zimmerman were when Zimmerman says he lost sight of Martin and how they then met for the shooting.
Two experts said the screams did not come from Zimmerman.
---> Can you provide a link to that?
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Gecko
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Now there are white hispanics.
---> True, but Zimmerman LOOKS Hispanic.
My cousins are two of them. Straight out of Cuba but blonde hair and blue/green eyed. You would never know they were hispanic unless they told you-because of the common misconception that all hispanics look like Mexicans.
---> My ex-fiance was 100% Polish, but he was often mistaken for being Puerto Rican.
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Miranda
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I agree, Zimmerman never looked "white" to me either.
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SRS
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But hispanic on black crimes aren't as sensational as white on black.
If this was hispanic on black, AL Sharpton and Jessee Jackson wouldn't have a fight.
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---> No...not 'exactly' because 1) I never said he drove between the buildings and 2) you're taking my words out of context. Did you read about the sidewalks...the one that ran FROM the street where Zimmerman was parked TO BEHIND the first set of apartments and then ran down the LENGTH of THREE buildings?"
I never said you said that, nor do I think it. Don't get bytchy. And, yes, I know what the layout of the buildings/sidewalks are.
"we need to know exactly where Martin and Zimmerman were when Zimmerman says he lost sight of Martin and how they then met for the shooting."
Exactly. As in, I agree with you. I thought I made it clear earlier that I wondered where the initial point of aggression was--the vehicle on the street or the sidewalk between the buildings. If it happened at the vehicle, then it seems Zimmerman continued to follow him between the buildings. Or else he lied.
Experts about screams: [censored]://gothamist.com/2012/04/01/experts_say_it_was_not_george_zimme.php
This is not where I read it first, though. Can't remember which newspaper it was.
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gr8Dad
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My big question is if Martin felt SO afraid, as his girlfriend stated to the press about her conversation with him (thus, he had a cell phone), why not call the POLICE?
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Arden
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I can't answer for him. I will try to answer with the little bit of experience I have and things I have heard, being around teens all day.
Black youths, especially males have a distrust of the police. Whether it is justified or not, I will not debate, as I am not a young black male. I am sure at times it is justified and at times it is an irrational fear. I think it is a very rare occasion that you will find a young black man making a call to the police.
That line of thinking is kind the same as when there is a domestic dispute. There are times when the man is the victim, he is more likely to be the one standing there in the handcuffs, until everything is sorted out. I watched that happen more than once to one of my neighbors. Damn shame.
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