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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: googledad]
      #782567 - 04/10/12 03:19 PM

And yet they DIDN'T contact the girlfriend Trayvon was on the phone with , DIDN'T listen to ALL the witnesses and tagged Trayvon as a " John Doe " even though he had a WALLET and a CELL PHONE .

---> Not usual when dealing with a minor...whether it's pending family notification or initial investigation because of the asswips who want their 15 minutes of fame, even if it's "an unnamed source" leaking the information.

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: elliesmom]
      #782570 - 04/10/12 03:27 PM

sounds like Zimmerman confronted the kid about being in the neighborhood (which he had every right to do)

---> Yes and no. Since it was a gated community, his so-called 'rights' are limited.

Zimmerman tried to stop him until the police arrived (not so right, but understandable)

---> What makes it 'not so right'?

kid fought back (which he had every right to do)

---> Not quite true. You can't just 'attack' someone because they are trying to detain you until the police arrive...it's called 'assault'.

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: Gecko]
      #782573 - 04/10/12 03:40 PM

"Not quite true. You can't just 'attack' someone because they are trying to detain you until the police arrive...it's called 'assault'."

Actually, you can. The person holds no shop keeper's privilege that store owner would have. Any response to being detained would rightly be considered self defense where no citizen's arrest was properly occurring (observing a crime in progress).


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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: elliesmom]
      #782581 - 04/10/12 04:04 PM

I am curious as to what evidence you have that indicates Zimmerman tried to detain the boy?

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #782594 - 04/10/12 04:50 PM

Zimmerman's attorneys withdrew from his case. Seems they think he will speak to others without their counsel.

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: english7]
      #782597 - 04/10/12 05:00 PM

Actually, the reason they gave was that he approached the special prosecutor on his own, against their counsel.

But I am sure some will spin his VOLUNTARILY approaching the person that will decide to charge him or not and VOLUNTARILY speaking to them as a sign that he is guilty.

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: googledad]
      #782600 - 04/10/12 05:08 PM

">>>>>>>>> Which proves he had a gash on his head , not that he was telling the truth about how he GOT IT ."

Well, you really have no proof that the bullet in Trayvon wasn't there when he was walking home...I mean if we are going to be RIDICULOUS< lets take it all the way, right?

">>>>>>>>> And yet they DIDN'T contact the girlfriend Trayvon was on the phone with , DIDN'T listen to ALL the witnesses and tagged Trayvon as a " John Doe " even though he had a WALLET and a CELL PHONE ."

Never saw that he had a wallet, could you source that? As for the cell phone, takes a while to trace those without a name. Funny thing is, Zimmerman's DAD says he is not a racist, but that is dismissed because its his DAD. But we SHOULD listen to Trayvon's GIRLFRIEND< because she would be COMPLETELY unbiased. And WHAT, exactly, could she testify to? That someone was following him? Not in dispute. That there was a scuffle? Not in dispute. She knows NOTHING that is not already admitted and verified by BOTH sides.

"Funny which "evidence" you choose to agree with . Josh Powell innnocent , Trayvon sucker punched poor George Zimmerman for no apparent reason and needed to be shot dead "

When the incriminating evidence against Powell was released, I agreed he looked guilty. I will do the same should new evidence arise in the Zimmerman shooting, I will reconsider my position. What I will NOT do is ignore the evidence that DOES exist and base my opinion on public realtions blitzes.

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #782605 - 04/10/12 06:03 PM

Gr8, did you ever get on his website?

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: english7]
      #782608 - 04/10/12 06:13 PM

Yep, made a donation, why? He appears to be open and honest, not really the sneaky racist killer the news is making him out to be.

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Re: OT-Trayyvon Martin case... [Re: gr8Dad]
      #782610 - 04/10/12 06:19 PM

I just wondered. I didn't try to get on today. I heard that he is trying to personally thank each donor. I don't doubt that he is honest and open. Nor do I think he's racist. I'm not convinced he won't be found guilty, though.

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