english7
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I know I'm procrastinating while that stack of papers stares at me, but I'd like to know what you folks think of Hilary Rosen's comments about Ann Romney and Mitt's understanding of women's struggles:
" What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that's what I'm hearing.
Guess what, his wife has actually never worked a day in her life. She's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why do we worry about their future?"
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elliesmom
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If she was talking about something else (like workman's comp) I could see how the comparison would be made. But to say that I don't understand economic issues because I don't work outside the home - I find that a tad insulting. For me - and most of the SAH spouses I know - WE are the ones balancing the checkbook and doing the purchasing and financial planning - because we are the ones the most free time. *I* am the one doing the planning for sending my SKs to college, choosing where we live based on what we can afford with all that in mind, etc. So - part of me wants to kneejerk and say - F you Hilary Rosen.
I am sure others would argue that they are wealthy enough to not worry about that stuff and hire someone to do the rest, but I don't know that has always been the case and what goes on in their home.
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LexieBelle
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I tend to agree with the comments about his wife. The reality is likely that someone in her position? Isn't really worried where the next daycare provider payment is coming from, or if there'll be enough money for diapers. You know?
Kinda galls me to see some bytch in a $1000 suit or dress opining about how tough women have it ;) Even if her husband walked out on her? She'd be a mighty rich bytch and STILL wouldn't have a clue.
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elliesmom
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But all of those things have nothing to do with her being a SAHM, and everything to do with her being wealthy. If the comment had been targeted such as someone as wealthy as she is cannot possibly know what concern about the economy is - I wouldn't have the F you sentiment. But I suspect it wasn't because both the commenter and person she supports - are also wealthy enough to know how they will afford diapers, daycare, etc.
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english7
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At first I thought it impossible that Ann Romney could understand the economic concerns of so many working (outside the home plus in) mothers. She and Mitt are, admittedly and with no apology, members of the elite.
But maybe she could imagine? Maybe. Rosen had a good point but does a mother have to have direct experience with economic hardship to understand how important it is to so many? Has she or Mitt worked with those who struggle?
This matters to me because I'll be voting for one guy or the other.
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Char9
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It's insulting to the point of stupidity. She never worked, never had to work, and likely NEVER worked with those who struggled, women who were single parents, working outside the home to provide for their kids. While I never had kids, I have ALWAYS worked. Would NEVER expect H or anyone else for that matter to support my sorry azz. I am willing and able to work thank you very much. The Romney's are clueless and I definitely will not vote for him.
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elliesmom
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I guess for me - I think someone - mom or dad - whenever possible should stay home with the kids. I value that. I respect anyone who makes the sacrifice for that to happen.
It bothers me when people treat it like it isn't a sacrifice. I am no martyr - I made this choice. But - it is hard to never have a break, to work your ass off and have it never matter in the sense of a raving performance review or more money coming in. As someone who was at the top of their class, went and became an engineer, and accustomed to accolades in exchange for hard work - that is hard to live without. And i don't expect anyone to feel sorry for - this was totally my choice, it would be nice if others didn't belittle what I do as "not real work" or me as "lazy."
I have done both. Going to work every day would be more gratifying and easier. The logistics would be more difficult with kids (daycare, working late, kids sick, etc.) and I have nothing but the highest respect for single parents who have to do ALL of it alone, but the workload at work...well lets just say I miss it.
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M5M5
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So, what are you trying to say? That SAHMs are lazy and do not work? Sorry...but being a SAHM is no walk in the park...especially with multiple kids...it's a very hard job.
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Arden
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It is a very hard job. I have done both. I won't try to get into which one is harder because I think it is a apple and orange comparison.
I will say that when I stayed home and the kids were little there was never was a clock out button, that job never ended.
Now my kids are older and independent, all except one. I still do everything I did while I was at home with a job to boot. However and this pertains to me only, I am not speaking for anyone else. My job gives me a bit of relief. I like getting out everyday and having adult interaction. Granted I have also surrounded myself by 1700 teenagers everyday but, I love it.
I also realize I have to comfort of having a husband, that is the majority bread winner and backup at home. I don't have it all on my shoulders, which can make things 1000X more stressful. I did it myself after my divorce so I know what it is like.
It just bothers me see a SAHP being dismissed or made to feel like they are lazy and what they do isn't important. Or a working parent treated like they are uninvolved and don't care about family.
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Arden
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I deleted my first post because it wasn't finished. I must have hit the send button somehow. ???
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