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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: SweetLight]
      #783075 - 04/14/12 11:10 AM

"It amazes me that people are intent on disliking Mitt Romney for being successful"

What I'm hearing is that, rightly or wrongly, people don't trust candidates who are "out of touch" with the struggle of average Americans. They are essentially saying that Romney's success came in "silver-spoon" fashion.


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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: Redlegg]
      #783076 - 04/14/12 11:13 AM

"I will assume that any candidate, or their wife will not be speaking on any issue, unless they have been through it."

It's not a matter of "speaking," it's a matter of credibility.


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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: english7]
      #783078 - 04/14/12 11:28 AM

Credibility in what, hearing words, and relaying them to her husband. The whole issue is that she told him women are concerned about economic issues.

Right here, this:

"What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that's what I'm hearing."

Are women not concerned about economic issues, is she just too stupid to tell him what she is hearing correctly. This is not policy, not law, it is a simple conversation about what women are concerned about. How is she not credible to pass on what she hears. Not to mention that the woman who said it apologized, the Administration is distancing itself from the statements and saying they are inappropriate. What would make her credible to accurately relay what she hears to her husband? I mean how does her being a SAHP add or take away from her credibility to pass on what she is told.


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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: Redlegg]
      #783079 - 04/14/12 12:19 PM

Fair enough. I get your point now. What I took away from his comments is that he is getting his information about what matters to women from his wife, not American women directly. This only feeds into the "Romney is disconnected from the average American" diatribe. Rosen and others chose to see it as Ann not being representative of average women in our country.

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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: english7]
      #783080 - 04/14/12 01:45 PM

I am not sure there is average anymore, and I am not sure any President, or their spouse gets their knowledge directly from anyone. 300 million Americans. Black White, native, Asian, and any combination of anything. Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, and any one of untold religions, or none. Marrried, single, single parent, intact, divorced, working parents, a SAHP, Step parent, Long distance parent, college grad, non college grad, high school grad, non highschool grad. What is average, and what are the chances that anyone in the white house, or trying to get there is like the average American. I mean at what point am I supposed to believe that someone who pays 3, or 5 thousand dollars for one suit is "average" and not part of the elite. Maybe I should be more suspect of the people who are telling me that, than I should of the actual elite people anyways.

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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: english7]
      #783082 - 04/14/12 02:18 PM

That's cuz she's not ;-)

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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: LexieBelle]
      #783083 - 04/14/12 02:39 PM

Rosen and others chose to see it as Ann not being representative of average women in our country.

It would be interesting to know who they do see as average....


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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: english7]
      #783085 - 04/14/12 03:53 PM

They are ALL out of touch. Every single one of them. They are ALL rich, are they not? The privileged.

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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: elliesmom]
      #783086 - 04/14/12 04:17 PM

"I guess for me - I think someone - mom or dad - whenever possible should stay home with the kids. I value that. I respect anyone who makes the sacrifice for that to happen."

I think that's a great idea. But if the sahp decides to abandon the marriage (quits their job), then there should be no alimony.

When you quit your job, the checks stop. You quit on the marriage, same consequences.

I've been a stay at home parent and worked a professional career. At least for me, parenting is much easier.


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Re: Stay at home insult or valid point? [Re: M5M5]
      #783097 - 04/14/12 09:39 PM

Um, no. Simply pointing out that the "elite" class have no freaking clue how hard the working class have it. :)

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