SRS
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For the record, I don't believe in this. I can see it used as a tool for the NCP to withold CS until the CP is drug tested.
But, if something like this were put in place I do think the NCP should have to participate as well.
...and what kind of punishment/testing would there be when the NCP doesn't take their CO visitation for years and years?
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Redlegg
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Even if they could force the parent to do it, what kind of time would it be? Forcing a child to spend time with a parent that doesn't want to, not seeing any benefits to that.
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SRS
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I could see some NCPs punishing the CP by saying they are doing drugs every time CS was due.
Perhaps base CS on visitation somehow? I don't have a specific answer, but if you go without seeing your kids for a year you should be held responsible.
Edited by SRS (04/19/12 06:19 AM)
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Redlegg
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Ha, include the cost of child care for the hours of parenting time missed....above and beyond CS
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Gecko
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Stupid. If the parent paying child support suspects the parent receiving it is using the money to purchase drugs instead of supporting the child, then you go to court for custody.
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LexieBelle
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Why need to? If you have a drug test and it's positive? Make it an AUTOMATIC change. Why should it cost the parent paying, MORE MONEY to FIGHT for custody that should just, at that point, be handed over?
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Gecko
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All random drug testing is a violation of our fourth ammendment rights.
---> Depends. If you were subject to drug testing to receive your tax refund...yes. But to apply for a job or to keep your job...no.
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LexieBelle
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[quote]All random drug testing is a violation of our fourth ammendment rights.
---> But to apply for a job or to keep your job...no. [/quote]
---------------->> And isn't being a CP a "job" of sorts? It certainly has more responsibilities and obligations than that of a NCP. Parenting in general is a "job". So why NOT get drug tested to receive funds to DO that job, from the other parent? What's the big issue? It's a "paycheck" of sorts, is it not? Didn't you pay your ex to raise your children? Yes. So why shouldn't you be entitled to ensure that your "employee" be drug-free, just like an other employer/employee situation?
I still stand by.. if you're not a user? ("you" by the way, not referring to you individually, referring to the "collective you") Then what's the issue? And if you're a drug user? Probably shouldn't be raising kids ANYWAY (yes I [censored]/ly believe this) and you deserve not to have them unless you're clean.
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gr8Dad
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Now define "drugs". Pot? Coke? Alcohol? Cigarettes? Tylenol? Sleeping pills? Is the parent that drinks a 12 pack of beer or a bottle of vodka a night somehow worse than the parent who smokes a joint once a month?
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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LexieBelle
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Anything illegal, any quantity of it. It isn't illegal to drink, in any quantity, AS LONG AS, you don't drive intoxicated. So, any drug defined as illegal, in any quantity of it.
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