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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: elliesmom]
      #784456 - 05/08/12 02:31 PM

EM - are you Gothard/ATI? I am just curious about that lifestyle and the beliefs.

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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: elliesmom]
      #784457 - 05/08/12 02:36 PM

There are a few things I think the Catholic church needs to look at differently....

I think a priest should be allowed to marry and a woman should be allowed to be a "priest" to name a few.

I also think that because my husband was not married in a church and neither him nor his ex were baptized into any faith (or followed any faith) that we shouldn't have to annul his first marriage but it isn't up to me.

If hubby and I ever divorced I would be free to marry in the church without issue if the man was not previously married, which I think is rather dumb given I have been married nearly 22 years. The fact that the church would have no issue with me having been married for 22 years and divorcing and then marrying in the church without having to "do anything" just seems absurd....


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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: SRS]
      #784460 - 05/08/12 02:51 PM

I don't even know what that is so imma say I don't believe 'in' it.

As for the annulment mentioned in the next post, annulment is a MAN MADE idea/process so personally it wouldn't factor into my beliefs at all. Many of the catholic beliefs are man made, not God made or God centered (and cannot even be traced to anything in the bible).

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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: SRS]
      #784462 - 05/08/12 02:55 PM

We are not members. I looked at it when we were homeschooling. I had no issue with it. I was, uncomfortable, with the fact that in order to join we would have to justify DHs divorce. To me, that is private and not something I want bantered about where my kids might overhear (and god forbid say something to their sibs).

I guess I also don't exactly agree that the woman must be the SAHP. I do think families should have a parent stay home, but I see no reason why it can't be Dad in some situations. I don't think genitals determine your ability to parent or provide.

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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: Avaya]
      #784463 - 05/08/12 02:56 PM

Christian religious beliefs are interpretations of what the Christian bible says. Interpreted by man.

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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: elliesmom]
      #784464 - 05/08/12 02:59 PM

I was just curious, EM. I think they have some interesting beliefs - not bad - just interesting. Gothard seems a bit creepy, but I kind of like some of his homeschool thoughts.

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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: annieo]
      #784467 - 05/08/12 04:34 PM

Lol...if everyone who got communion was following the rules, there'd be about 3 catholics who got communion annually. You've got catholics in the church who live with other people, you've got others having premarital sex, others mastubating, others having affairs etc....and with full intentions of continuing to do so. The church might set these arbitrary rules, but if they start banning everyone who doesn't follow them, they'll have no one left to give them what they want most...$$$$$. So they choose to ignore what they want to ignore as long as the $$$ continue to come in, like pretty much every religious group.

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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: spinnerdegrassi]
      #784474 - 05/08/12 06:36 PM

I think you might be suprised, spinner. There are a lot of people that actually live their faith - more than you think.

Whatever faith they choose, not just Catholic, btw.


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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: elliesmom]
      #784476 - 05/08/12 06:52 PM

I kind of agree with you except...I do agree with there only being certain reasons for divorce in the Bible...adultery. In those cases, the Bible is silent on if you can remarry. It doesn't say we can or can't. My husband's ex committed adultery. He divorced her. Almost 2 years later, he married me. I don't think he is committing adultery since he divorced for the "allowed" reason.

I wonder, often...where the Catholics get their rules. They are Christians, but I've never heard about some of these rules being in the Bible. Not trying to start an argument or anything...I've just always found the Catholic faith (and others) confusing.


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Re: Curious - religious question (OT-kind of) [Re: spinnerdegrassi]
      #784479 - 05/08/12 09:47 PM

LOL, of course you will get the answers, "Well, I follow MY religion, just not like THOSE {insert other flavor of Christianty} folks", LMAO!

Interestingly enough, you would think that an ALL POWERFUL, ALL KNOWING, OMNIPRESENT individual like "God", would have written his book a little more CLEARLY than the current book, which is so full of inconsistencies and contradictions that it has caused the shattering of the Christian "faith" into thousands of flavors.

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