LexieBelle
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You and Maury are a riot. Thanks for the laughs :-)
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Redlegg
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It is kind of funny, the book is flawed because man wrote it, and man's interpretation is what makes it flawed, just ask man. Part of it is wrong, so it is all subject to being wrong, when science is wrong, it is a part of the scientific process. Maybe just the fact that people ask why didn't God do it this way, or why did God do it this way shows that people will never understand it. Maybe one day, one of the theories of evolution will be proven, maybe one day, one of the theories of creation will be proven, maybe none of them will. But until then, just seems like the world has a bunch of theories to believe in and they are all wrong, except the one you believe in.
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SRS
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Good job, Redd. IMO, you are right for the most part.
Some of us aren't sure which theory is right, want to learn about other theories, but really enjoy the beliefs, culture and traditions they were raised with.
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ssmom79
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[quote]See Matthew 19:9 (Christ himself giving the exception for adultery) and Matthew 5:32.
I have discussed this with priests, because the Catholic church does not allow divorce period, and was told that these scriptures allowed for you to LEAVE but not divorce your spouse. I wholeheartedly disagree since it clearly states "and marry another." [/quote]
Thanks EM!
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ssmom79
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[quote]But until then, just seems like the world has a bunch of theories to believe in and they are all wrong, except the one you believe in. [/quote]
Yes this exactly! And You being the collective you, not any one person here.
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gr8Dad
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Creationism is not a theory, its a belief. For something to be a "theory" it has to, first of all, be testable, second of all, it has to currently be TESTED. They are looking for more information and proof of evolution. Creationists say, "This is how it happened, end of story. No need to research or test it."
"Part of it is wrong, so it is all subject to being wrong, when science is wrong, it is a part of the scientific process."
EXCELLENT comparison. At one point, it was believed that organisms could self initiate, in other words, a sealed vial containing NO organism could, through some process, at some point CONTAIN organism's. Pasteur proved that wrong. So any theiory or belief BASED on that needed to be reexamined.
So when a religious theory is proven wrong, doesn't it make sense to re-test the theories that it is based on or that follow it? But you are not ALLOWED, per his word, to "test" God...so you can't.
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Why give a "senior" discount, they have had plenty of time to raise the money...
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Redlegg
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Research it all you want, test it all you want, feel free. No one is stopping you, it is the same with evolution, multiple theories, multiple testing. Multiple churches are looking for proof of god, multiple people are looking for proof of Darwinism, evolution, and or God, or intelligent design. The theories are not incompatible, or there would be no scientists who hold religious beliefs. There are a ton of them out there. None have irrefutable proof. All have some elements of provability. it is up to the person to decide, there is no one set of beliefs that is 100%.
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SRS
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I think it is healthy to test your own as well as learn about other religious theories. I don't want to blindly believe what someone tells me is the truth.
How do I know that my Pastor has interpreted things correctly? Sure, they many have a doctorate in religious studies but depending on where they went to school it may lean towards a specific theology.
-----eta: I like this, Redd. The theories are not incompatible, or there would be no scientists who hold religious beliefs. There are a ton of them out there. None have irrefutable proof. All have some elements of provability. it is up to the person to decide, there is no one set of beliefs that is 100%.
Edited by SRS (05/10/12 10:12 AM)
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Maury
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The theories are not incompatible and string theory and every other theory has failed to explain the singularity (Big Bang) which is where our physics presently tends to fall apart - which I find interesting.
"Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
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Buckeye
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I'm coming in at the end of this and haven't read all the comments, but part of the problem is that you have to understand the customs and regulations are they were written in Jesus' time.
Take the phase "turn your other cheek". It isn't meant what most people think - doing those times, a person was only allowed to hit a slave or underling one time. If they were hit two times, the person doing the hitting would have been arrested.
During those times, a soldier could make a person carry his belongings a mile but no more than a mile or they would have been beaten.
So, it is important to understand what was going on during those times.
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