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Re: What a shock !!!! [Re: googledad]
      #786724 - 06/12/12 12:56 PM

YES , George Zimmerman had has bail revoked because he lied to a judge .

---> No, you don't get to twist my words to support your position.

It's mazing how his brain dead supporters can't even acknowledge what his own lawyer ADMITTED .

---> I certainly agree that your reasoning is a "confusing network of interconnecting pathways" and that you are most certainly brain dead since you don't appear to have even basic comprehension skills.

---> I am NOT a 'supporter' of George Zimmerman per se, I am a supporter of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This whole business has been a 'cluster fvck' to quote Clint Eastwood in Hamburger Hill. From the moment that it was reported that a 'white' man had killed a black teenager, to Sharpton poking his nose in it for free media coverage, to Spike Lee 'tweeting' address, to NBC's selective editing of the 911 call, to the 'bounty' by the New Black Panthers and so on and so forth.

---> I just don't believe that he should have been charged with 2nd Degree Murder; at most, he should have been charged with Negligent Homicide. BUT...he is NOT solely responsible for the death of Martin...Martin was also culpable in his death.

---> As for his bond hearing...another cluster fvck. Did he or didn't he lie...I don't know until I hear the ACTUAL tapes and NOT some cherry-picked selection from the DA. I DO know that the PayPal account WAS mentioned in court by Zimmerman's wife and that it OBVIOUSLY dismissed as inconsequential by the DA, the Judge AND the Defense because it would have been a simple matter to take a 5-minute recess and fire up the internet to find out how much. It wasn't until AFTER Zimmerman was released and he went to his attorney about the account and how much money was in it...that all of a sudden it was "OH FVCK!!!" and everyone is scrambling.

---> Also, when were the financial statements for the bail hearing prepared?

---> And let's talk about that account. Who set it up? When was it set up? How was it set up? Who had access and/or control of the account before and after Zimmerman went to jail? How much money was in it when Zimmerman when to jail? How much money was in it when Zimmerman talked to his wife? How much money was in it when Zimmerman had his bail hearing?

---> But hey...I totally get that you don't want to answer any of the questions, makes it really hard to defend your position. Whatever.

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Re: What a shock !!!! [Re: Gecko]
      #786746 - 06/13/12 07:45 AM

YES , George Zimmerman had has bail revoked because he lied to a judge .

No, you don't get to twist my words to support your position.

>>>>>>>>>>>> So please explain how George had his bail revoked and why his wife is now charged with perjury ?



It's mazing how his brain dead supporters can't even acknowledge what his own lawyer ADMITTED .

I certainly agree that your reasoning is a "confusing network of interconnecting pathways" and that you are most certainly brain dead since you don't appear to have even basic comprehension skills.

>>>>>>>>> I comprehend his lawyer ADMITTED George and his wife attempted to deceive a judge . Do you ?


I am NOT a 'supporter' of George Zimmerman per se, I am a supporter of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This whole business has been a 'cluster fvck' to quote Clint Eastwood in Hamburger Hill. From the moment that it was reported that a 'white' man had killed a black teenager, to Sharpton poking his nose in it for free media coverage, to Spike Lee 'tweeting' address, to NBC's selective editing of the 911 call, to the 'bounty' by the New Black Panthers and so on and so forth.

>>>>>>>>> You're forgetting the neo-nazis " patrolling " Sanford , you know , what the local Fox affiliate called a " civil rights group " . BTW , without VIDEO TAPE of the incident it's IMPOSSIBLE to know THE TRUTH , eyewitnesses are UNRELIABLE and any other evidence is subject to dueling experts .



I just don't believe that he should have been charged with 2nd Degree Murder; at most, he should have been charged with Negligent Homicide. BUT...he is NOT solely responsible for the death of Martin...Martin was also culpable in his death.

>>>>>>>> According to George Zimmerman , admitted LIAR .



As for his bond hearing...another cluster fvck. Did he or didn't he lie...I don't know until I hear the ACTUAL tapes and NOT some cherry-picked selection from the DA. I DO know that the PayPal account WAS mentioned in court by Zimmerman's wife and that it OBVIOUSLY dismissed as inconsequential by the DA, the Judge AND the Defense because it would have been a simple matter to take a 5-minute recess and fire up the internet to find out how much. It wasn't until AFTER Zimmerman was released and he went to his attorney about the account and how much money was in it...that all of a sudden it was "OH FVCK!!!" and everyone is scrambling.

>>>>>>>>> His wife was asked to estimate what was raised , she said she did not know despite withdrawing almost $80,000 .She further LIED by saying her brother administered the fund .


Also, when were the financial statements for the bail hearing prepared?

>>>>>>>> Apparently it doesn't matter as bail has been REVOKED . Let's see if they can be honest in a few weeks .

And let's talk about that account. Who set it up? When was it set up? How was it set up? Who had access and/or control of the account before and after Zimmerman went to jail? How much money was in it when Zimmerman when to jail? How much money was in it when Zimmerman talked to his wife? How much money was in it when Zimmerman had his bail hearing?

>>>>>>>>> Good thing all that is KNOWN . Maybe you should do a little research .



But hey...I totally get that you don't want to answer any of the questions, makes it really hard to defend your position. Whatever.

>>>>>>>>> My position , Zimmermann LIED . Facts to back it up , he's IN JAIL and his wife is NOW charged with PERJURY .

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Re: What a shock !!!! [Re: googledad]
      #786755 - 06/13/12 11:30 AM

So please explain how George had his bail revoked and why his wife is now charged with perjury ?

---> Why would I need to explain that when that wasn't the topic of this particular section? You're doing what Gr8Dad does...twisting sh*t and it's annoying.

I comprehend his lawyer ADMITTED George and his wife attempted to deceive a judge . Do you ?

---> What I comprehend is Zimmerman's lawyer is going to say whatever is necessary to keep his client out of jail and cover up his own lack of due diligence. JUST like the DA is doing. AGAIN...all these people sat in the courtroom and heard testimony of the existence of the PayPal account and NO ONE checked on it!

You're forgetting the neo-nazis " patrolling " Sanford , you know , what the local Fox affiliate called a " civil rights group " .

---> No...that was covered under "and so on and so forth" at the end of my sentence.

BTW , without VIDEO TAPE of the incident it's IMPOSSIBLE to know THE TRUTH , eyewitnesses are UNRELIABLE and any other evidence is subject to dueling experts .

---> I agree, but it's ironic, hypocritical and a bit sanctimonious of you to say so given your numerous asinine statements.

According to George Zimmerman , admitted LIAR .

---> No...that's MY extrapolation based on what I have heard from the 911 tapes, witnesses, map of the area, etc.

---> I don't like it that Zimmerman is being held solely accountable for what occurred that evening...it's not right on many different levels that have nothing to do with Zimmerman the person, but what he and Martin represent OVERALL. First, there is the blatant racism; this incident would have NEVER made the media headlines had Zimmerman's name been Hernandez. It ALSO would have NEVER made the media headlines had Martin killed Zimmerman, because it's ONLY 'hate' crime when a white man kills a black man, NOT when a black man kills a white man. Second, how many more crimes (murder, rape, robbery, etc) would there be and/or gotten away with, if ordinary citizens stayed their distance? Once upon a time, people didn't hesitate to assist others in an emergency situation, but then the 'others' started suing, blaming these folks for their injuries and people quit helping out of fear. Now...the majority of states have enacted "Good Samaritan" laws that protect those who help others.

His wife was asked to estimate what was raised , she said she did not know despite withdrawing almost $80,000 .She further LIED by saying her brother administered the fund .

---> Which simply reinforces what I said.

Apparently it doesn't matter as bail has been REVOKED .

---> It should, beings that you're making such as issue about money and truth.

Good thing all that is KNOWN .

---> Obviously not. 'Cuz I seem to remember how you ranted about Zimmerman NOT being injured at all 'cuz of what the MEDIA was reporting...then all the photos and doctor's reports were released and it became a different kettle of fish.

My position , Zimmermann LIED . Facts to back it up , he's IN JAIL and his wife is NOW charged with PERJURY .

---> If you don't want to or can't answer the questions...then just say so.

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Re: What a shock !!!! [Re: Gecko]
      #786759 - 06/13/12 12:44 PM

Why would I need to explain that when that wasn't the topic of this particular section? You're doing what Gr8Dad does...twisting sh*t and it's annoying.

>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahah .
Duh , don't you know you'll have to wait till trial for further evidence ? Are you DUMB enough to think the prosecutor will release evidence for the sole purpose of satisfying your curiosity ?

What I comprehend is Zimmerman's lawyer is going to say whatever is necessary to keep his client out of jail and cover up his own lack of due diligence.

>>>>>>>>> So it's the lawyer's fault Zimmerman " forgot " to tell him how much the website raised ? Is it also his fault Zim's wife LIED about not having any cash ? Is it ALSO his fault George's first lawyer dropped him as a client ?

I agree, but it's ironic, hypocritical and a bit sanctimonious of you to say so given your numerous asinine statements.

>>>>>>>>>> Please list a few . I'm not the idiot insisting a prosecutor release evidence to the general public . Of course , further evidence PROVES ME RIGHT .


No...that's MY extrapolation based on what I have heard from the 911 tapes, witnesses, map of the area, etc.

>>>>>>>>>> And mine is idiot " neighborhood watch captain " ignored the police , followed Trayvon , initiated a confrontation , panicked and killed an unarmed teen .

I don't like it that Zimmerman is being held solely accountable for what occurred that evening...it's not right on many different levels that have nothing to do with Zimmerman the person, but what he and Martin represent OVERALL.

>>>>>>>>> Only one person is responsible , the one that left his vehicle .

First, there is the blatant racism; this incident would have NEVER made the media headlines had Zimmerman's name been Hernandez. I

>>>>>>>> It took WEEKS to make headlines .This all happened in FEBUARY .

It ALSO would have NEVER made the media headlines had Martin killed Zimmerman, because it's ONLY 'hate' crime when a white man kills a black man, NOT when a black man kills a white man.

>>>>>>>>> Duh , Zimmerman isn't being CHARGED with a hate crime , that would be MURDER 2 .

Which simply reinforces what I said.

>>>>>>>>> What would that be ?

Obviously not. 'Cuz I seem to remember how you ranted about Zimmerman NOT being injured at all 'cuz of what the MEDIA was reporting...then all the photos and doctor's reports were released and it became a different kettle of fish.

>>>>>>>>>> Must have me confused with someone else .

If you don't want to or can't answer the questions...then just say so.


>>>>>>>>>> What question would that be ?

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Re: What a shock !!!! [Re: googledad]
      #786761 - 06/13/12 01:38 PM

Are you DUMB enough to think the prosecutor will release evidence for the sole purpose of satisfying your curiosity ?

---> Seems the ONLY 'dumb' person here is yourself. Maybe you should go back and reread the original statement.

I'm not the idiot insisting a prosecutor release evidence to the general public .

---> What's with all the name calling? I haven't 'insisted' anything...I have questions; until such time those questions are answered, I am reserving judgement on those issues.

And mine is idiot " neighborhood watch captain " ignored the police , followed Trayvon , initiated a confrontation , panicked and killed an unarmed teen .

---> That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. But you're NOT entitled to belittle mine or call me names because you don't like my questions.

Only one person is responsible , the one that left his vehicle .

---> Disagree. The act of leaving your vehicle to check out or assist isn't a crime.

It took WEEKS to make headlines .This all happened in FEBUARY .

---> Which has NOTHING to do with what I said. You obviously can't discuss this matter intelligently without resorting to name calling or spinning to support your rhetoric...I'm done. Have a nice day.

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Re: What a shock !!!! [Re: Gecko]
      #786804 - 06/14/12 07:36 AM

Are you DUMB enough to think the prosecutor will release evidence for the sole purpose of satisfying your curiosity ?
Seems the ONLY 'dumb' person here is yourself. Maybe you should go back and reread the original statement.

>>>>>>>>> Read it and ANSWERED it ,


I'm not the idiot insisting a prosecutor release evidence to the general public .

What's with all the name calling?

>>>>>>>>> Well my " asinine opinions " isn't name calling ?

I haven't 'insisted' anything...I have questions; until such time those questions are answered, I am reserving judgement on those issues.

>>>>>>>>> So everyone else should too , RIGHT ?



And mine is idiot " neighborhood watch captain " ignored the police , followed Trayvon , initiated a confrontation , panicked and killed an unarmed teen .

That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. But you're NOT entitled to belittle mine or call me names because you don't like my questions.

>>>>>>>>> Sure , heaven forbid I take the DA's " evidence " at face value .



Only one person is responsible , the one that left his vehicle .

Disagree. The act of leaving your vehicle to check out or assist isn't a crime.

>>>>>>>>> Leaving your vehgicle ARMED to confront someone despite being told not to IS .



It took WEEKS to make headlines .This all happened in FEBUARY .

Which has NOTHING to do with what I said. You obviously can't discuss this matter intelligently without resorting to name calling or spinning to support your rhetoric...I'm done. Have a nice day.

>>>>>>>>> From the dunce who likes to call a politician the antichrist .

HAVE A NICE DAY

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