Goodmom
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[quote]He's a poster child alright.. of how NOT to live your life.[/quote]
That is true, he no poster boy about how to live your life. Still doesn't change the fact that those cops crossed the line when they beat him like they did.
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elliesmom
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Have you ever actually watched the video in its entirety?
Because even without the before stuff - he was clearly attempting to flee/assault the officers throughout. He was behaving like a wild, crazy man. MAYBE they could have subdued him in another fashion, but they were not convicted because it was not clear beyond a reasonable doubt that they in fact acted in the wrong. The cornerstone of our justice system is that it is better a guilty man go free than an innocent one convicted. The subsequent trial was disgusting attempt to pervert that system. Maybe they were guilty, but it was not CLEAR beyond a reasonable doubt. King was drunk and disorderly and not behaving rationally. It is hard to argue that better rational actions by police absolutely could have been used. Police officers get to hit people - if they can't we would have chaos. Or we'd have to let them start shooting people. Because otherwise no one would be arrested.
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gr8Dad
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"The defense did a real good job in desensitizing the jury to the video of the cops BEATING him to the point that it just didn't matter."
Or maybe they played the WHOLE video, and told them what happened BEFORE the video. Purely out of curiosity, have YOU ever watched the WHOLE video?
"I, for one, am very GLAD that justice did prevail and they got convicted of something. Even if it wasn't what they should have been convicted for."
Justice is the right to a trial by your peers and the finding they come up with. They were found NOT GUILTY, so the black folks RIOTED and they were tried again. If ANYONE was "abused" during that thingm, it was the OFFICERS< as THEIR civil right to a SINGLE trial and a finding by a jury was thrown out the window.
"It's a question of defending basic human decency. And there was nothing humane about what those cops did."
SO, what would YOU Have done? Be specific. You have a driver who led you on a high speed chase, intially refuses to get out of the car, when he does, he acts bizzare, then ASSAULTS your fellow officers, shakes off a TASER, and keeps on coming?
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javajunkiee
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If his drunken, law-breaking, parole-violating ass would've stayed on the ground when the cops told him to, he could've avoided all of it.
You simply don't argue or CHARGE AT a group of people with guns, tasers and batons. That's utter stupidity, and given the way he lived the rest of his life?
He had an issue with boundaries, and dare I say, maybe even a death wish.
No one who values their life or who has learned from their mistakes continues to put themselves (and others) in danger.
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Goodmom
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And if the cops had controlled themselves better and handled the situation like they were trained to do, they could have avoided the consequences of their actions.
Rodney King wasn't the only one who had issue with boundaries. Those cops did, as well.
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gr8Dad
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So what could have been done differently? They tried VOCAL commands, they tried pulling a GUN on him, they tried tasing him, all that was left was physical force. And once they DETERMINED that ONE blow with the baton did NOT stop him, they had to continue, and he continued to try and get up.
So, once again, what would YOU have done, since you seem to think the police didn't do ENOUGH before using the batons.
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toomom
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At some point the police were able to hogtie him. Yes, he was out of control. To hogtie him was the only option. But, the beating went continued for a few minutes after that. He was tazed again and again. As the beating, after the hogtie, continues the video shows some cops moving their cars and waiting for their turn. After the hogtie, some cops formed a half circle around him and laughed as they crushed his jaw, broke his leg and eye socket, all the while calling him N*gger slime ect...Then not one "officer" called for an ambulance. The residents did. Of coarse, the cops didn't know at the time it was all caught on tape.
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gr8Dad
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LOL, what video did YOU watch? He was NEVER hit after he was cuffed. It simply DID NOT HAPPEN. He was tased ONCE, and ONLY once, and fell to his knees, then got back up.
"After the hogtie, some cops formed a half circle around him and laughed as they crushed his jaw, broke his leg and eye socket, all the while calling him N*gger slime ect..."
I would LOVE to see the source for this, because his ACTUAL injuries were a broken facial bone, a broken ankle and multiple cuts and bruises. But the video has NO sound (they were too far away) so unless THEY testified to what they said, there would be no other way of knowing.
Oh, and you are wrong, the cops DID call for the ambulance, it is standard operating procedure when they decide to use the TASER, which they did BEFORE the beating.
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toomom
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Watch the video. Offer Koon..Reports from the patrol car..."just had a big time use of force for domestic violence, right outta of "Gorillas in the Mist."
"He was then examined by doctors who found nine skull fractures, a shattered eye socket and cheekbone, a broken leg, a concussion, injuries to both knees and nerve damage that left his face partially paralyzed.
On Friday, a sergeant and three patrolmen were indicted."
If trial had stayed in LA the riots might not have happened. Instead they moved it to Simi Valley, CA. The area was 93% "White" at the time. The area is known for affordable housing to a large number of police officers and firemen, who could not afford to live as comfortable in the Los Angeles area. The all "white" jury, in Simi Valley, Ca all were connected by blood or marriage to a police officer in the tri-counties.
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gr8Dad
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"Watch the video. Offer Koon..Reports from the patrol car..."just had a big time use of force for domestic violence, right outta of "Gorillas in the Mist.""
Oh, so you didn't do any RESEARCH, you watched ONE video, from a group whos OBVIOUS agenda was to insult Officer Koon? Try doing some RESEARCH on it.
"He was then examined by doctors who found nine skull fractures, a shattered eye socket and cheekbone, a broken leg, a concussion, injuries to both knees and nerve damage that left his face partially paralyzed."
Wow, he looked pretty good for a guy with FACIAL PARALYSIS. Cause, umm, I mean you KNOW that paralysis DOESN'T go away, so he would have it still today...but he DIDN'T.
"If trial had stayed in LA the riots might not have happened. Instead they moved it to Simi Valley, CA."
There was a change in venue because the possible jury pool had been tainted by the exposure to the video tape. Funny, cause a change in venue is DAMANDED by minority defendants in order to get a "fair" trial. But I guess when the defendeant is WHITE, we shouldn't CARE about a fair trial?
"The all "white" jury, in Simi Valley, Ca all were connected by blood or marriage to a police officer in the tri-counties."
All white? Nope, ten white, one latino and one asian. You are just a veritable cornicopia of USELESS misinformation.
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