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Re: WTH! [Re: toomom]
      #787861 - 07/04/12 04:49 PM

[quote]Spanking a child with a belt like an animal that leaves a mark or something is WRONG. I'm sorry but how could you say that it is ok is beyond me. Would you or M5M5's husband hit the family dog with a belt because it stepped out of line? [/quote]

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Troll comment/question, so here's my troll answer.....

I've never felt the need to slap my dog with a belt. A quick tug on her choke collar and she steps back in line quick enough.

Unfortunately, I can't find one big enoughto fit over my dang teenagers' heads.


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Re: WTH! [Re: M5M5]
      #787862 - 07/04/12 04:53 PM

[quote]Thanks, English...I agree with everything you posted. I, too, was spanked with a belt when I was a kid. My older brothers got it more than me, and I should have got it more than I did! lol We didn't get spanked alot...because after a few times...receiving the "look" was enough to make us behave. I look back and am grateful for the discipline I got as a child. At 17, my SD isn't there yet...but I'm sure one day she will be...probably shortly after she has kids of her own. [/quote]

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I love the Mark Twain quote......and it certainly applies to my attitude when I was a teen.....

"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."


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Re: WTH! [Re: finz]
      #787864 - 07/04/12 05:38 PM

what is considered 'acceptable' punishment for children HAS changed over the years

---> Yeah...and society as a whole is so much worse for it! You have kids of all ages bringing guns and knives to school and killing other kids..and teachers. You have little kids that are so totally out of control, that the police are called in and handcuffs are being used. You have 12-year old girls sexting and sending nude photos of themselves. You higher instances of bullying and suicide.

---> MY GOD...the USSC recently ruled that children who are tried as adults cannot be given life sentences with parole (or whatever). That they even had to RULE on something like that is telling in itself!

---> I wasn't 'abused' as a child, I was punished. I got my mouth washed out with soap for saying a 'bad' word...didn't hurt me and I didn't swear after that (at least not in front of my parents). I got sent to bed without supper twice...the first time for not coming to the supper table on time, the second time for bad table manners...never did either again. Got my butt beat the second time I didn't put Dad's tools away...also got extra chores because I ruined his Phillips screwdriver in the process. And we were expected to do chores WITHOUT getting paid for it.

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Re: WTH! [Re: Maury]
      #787865 - 07/04/12 05:44 PM

or that leaves a red mark

---> An example of the law being taken to extremes.

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Re: WTH! [Re: Gecko]
      #787867 - 07/04/12 10:14 PM

[quote]

---> I wasn't 'abused' as a child, I was punished.

I got my mouth washed out with soap for saying a 'bad' word

I got sent to bed without supper twice

Got my butt beat the second time

I didn't put Dad's tools away...also got extra chores because I ruined his Phillips screwdriver in the process.

And we were expected to do chores WITHOUT getting paid for it. [/quote]


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Sounds similar to my upbringing......and "I wasn't 'abused' as a child, I was punished." was phrased PERFECTLY !

You were allowed to TOUCH your dad's tools ? I think we may have lost our hand if we tried to tough those......so we DID NOT touch them.


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Re: WTH! [Re: M5M5]
      #787961 - 07/06/12 09:04 AM

Those are her memories. Were you there when her Dad Beat her or couldn't control his temper? Maybe this stuff happened the way she said? It is abusive to hit anyone with a belt by the way. If not. does your husband beat you when you disobey him? Abuse is abuse. Even worse when done to a child.

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Re: WTH! [Re: gr8Dad]
      #787962 - 07/06/12 09:15 AM

A grown man being unablle to control his temper was scary to a kid. I can only imagine how scared she felt if she remembers it years later. Your husband sounds like an ass and so do you if you can't see that. WTH? WTH indeed.

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Re: WTH! [Re: M5M5]
      #788096 - 07/09/12 09:35 AM

Okay, you read his mail?

That aside, if I was him, I wouldn't respond in writing; I'd do it face to face. And no matter how much she loves YOU, I think he should do it alone so that she gets the story from him (even if he doesn't do it 'right', I think a MAN needs to step up and do it HIS way) and so she has a better chance of feeling like the matter is settled.

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Re: WTH! [Re: toomom]
      #788097 - 07/09/12 09:40 AM

[quote]You spank with a parent's hand on the bottom [/quote]

A parent's hands are for LOVING the child; a child IMO should be spanked with a belt or a similar item so that they never equate a parents hands with hurting.

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Re: WTH! [Re: Avaya]
      #788105 - 07/09/12 11:21 AM

Okay, you read his mail?

---> Why not? I always read my husband's mail and he read mine...we had no secrets from another.

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