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">>>>>>>>> The gun you moron . Pistols are pretty easy to hide ."
Oh, okay, so Zimmerman DREW his pistol from its concealed holster, and then HID it again? Okay, lets go with that theory. If the gun was HIDDEN, then Martin had no reason to attack Zimmerman to "save" himself, right? See, your theories hold NO water.
">>>>>>>>> During the confrontation . George's story is it started when Trayvon punched him . He could just have easily been elbowed when he tried to restrain Trayvon ."
And how, EXACTLY, do you attempt to restrain someone without leaving a SINGLE mark on them? Or are you theorizing that Zimmerman used some ancient chinese "ring finger hold" on him?
">>>>>>>>>>> The only thing that proves is a physical confrontation , not who started it ."
Actually, yes it does. Because in oirder to START a physical confrontation, you have to make some kind of PHYSICAL contact, and there are NO marks on Martin to indicate physical contact, with the exception of the abrasion on his finger, which is indicative of Martin HITTING something or someone, not BEING hit by someone.
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Can't get to the audio recording from where I am at right now, but will look at it later. BTW, wanted to thank you for providing your theories for me to bat away, it will be good for OTHER people who have read the same things to see how silly they are.
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Oh, okay, so Zimmerman DREW his pistol from its concealed holster, and then HID it again? Okay, lets go with that theory. If the gun was HIDDEN, then Martin had no reason to attack Zimmerman to "save" himself, right? See, your theories hold NO water.
>>>>>>>>> Except Zimmerman was trying to restrain Trayvon , the noise his girlfriend heard and Trayvon saying " get off " . Trayvon didn't necessarily have to see the weapon .
And how, EXACTLY, do you attempt to restrain someone without leaving a SINGLE mark on them? Or are you theorizing that Zimmerman used some ancient chinese "ring finger hold" on him?
>>>>>>>>>> You mean everyone who get's arrested gets injured ?
Actually, yes it does. Because in oirder to START a physical confrontation, you have to make some kind of PHYSICAL contact, and there are NO marks on Martin to indicate physical contact, with the exception of the abrasion on his finger, which is indicative of Martin HITTING something or someone, not BEING hit by someone.
>>>>>>>>>> Grabbing or shoving intiateds physical contact WITHOUT leaving marks . Both are BATTERY .
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Can't get to the audio recording from where I am at right now, but will look at it later. BTW, wanted to thank you for providing your theories for me to bat away, it will be good for OTHER people who have read the same things to see how silly they are.
>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahahahahahah .
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">>>>>>>>>> Grabbing or shoving intiateds physical contact WITHOUT leaving marks . Both are BATTERY ."
Really? Tell you what, you grab your OWN arm, tell me if there are marks. Now grab someone ELSE'S arm, and have them fight to get away, see if there are marks. Ah, you may say, but they don't LAST, right? Ah, but they DO when the circulation is cut off, from say a gun shot to the heart less than a minute later.
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Sorta like defending yourself and receiving defensive wounds ?
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You have created an interesting catch 22 with the standard you have set. Trayvon has but that one mark on him, and you are using that to justify that Zimmerman DIDN'T defend himself while being attacked by Martin. Of course, if Martin HAD marks on him, you would be claiming Zimmerman had attacked him first and Martin was just defending himself.
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Actually , no , I'm not . You're using Zimmerman's "wounds" to say Trayvon attacked him and Trayvon's lack of injuries to say Zimmerman DIDN'T attack Trayvon . I'm saying Zim's LACK of defensive wounds and Trayvon's LACK of any injury except a small abrasion on his left hand PLUS Zimmerman;s LACK of serious injuries makes Zimmerman's STORY full of shyt .
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